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My point exactly.At the moment, that isn't happening. One taxi fare might take up all the bus revenue.
My point exactly.At the moment, that isn't happening. One taxi fare might take up all the bus revenue.
Interesting. I just noticed a thing on Twitter. A woman said her 06.30, 6.1 from Bakewell to Derby didn't run, and the next ran late. First bus said to have broken down (never left Matlock depot). She was over an hour late for work. I well know, many employers won't stand for that for long. Let's say, if they were looking to get rid of staff. So over time, that passenger has to seek alternatives, that may well involve driving a car. Trentbarton standard answer seems.to be "Get a taxi, we will pay". But in many places like Bakewell, Wirksworth and the like the chances of getting a taxi are near ZERO. TB social media staff must live in a City, where there are plenty of taxis. Maybe they own taxi companies. Once a passenger walks away, they won't be back.My point exactly.
The bus park and ride sites are free to park and £6 on the bus for up to five people. The tram park and ride sites are free to park and you pay normal fares on the tram. So they are similar, but a bit of an incentive for people to drive further than necessary - for example five adults in a car would be much cheaper at one of the bus sites.Maybe, also for Nottingham parking in the city is expensive so parking and getting the tram would probably be cheaper. Getting the bus from park and ride still costs the user to park whereas using the tram is free.
Oh, I thought it meant 6 pound to park there, never mind thenThe bus park and ride sites are free to park and £6 on the bus for up to five people. The tram park and ride sites are free to park and you pay normal fares on the tram. So they are similar, but a bit of an incentive for people to drive further than necessary - for example five adults in a car would be much cheaper at one of the bus sites.
Interesting about how people pay for their bus fares. There was a tweet from Mayoral candidate Claire Ward that got a response from a certain Managing Director. He might think it,.but from my point of few, tapping off got an awful lot more difficult. And if you are not sure if you are going to be overcharged, maybe you just buy a ticket (problem solved ) .I hope not, I use cash for bus fares almost all the time these days.
This is obviously not going to be sustainable. They'll bankrupt themselves if they don't get their act together.
I agree, notts and sutton seem to be aiding derby and langley, but you could argue they have simpler fleets to maintainYep but if you go to Nottingham you'll see the excellence that is Trentbarton over here: reliable services, friendly drivers, well presented buses. I have to say I do often see the same in Derby, but service cancellations are definitely more prevalent in Derby.
This thread definitely shows the negative side, and there is most certainly a positive side.
I’m pleased for you that the Nottingham services are better. I can only speak for what I find and in my opinon Derby has been pretty abysmal recently - in particular referring to the Sixes, Nines, Comet and Red Arrow. Another example from a few days ago: two successive early morning northbound Sixes no-show (not cancelled on the App, just don’t turn up) then a Solo rocks up for the 6.1 Bakewell which is the peak service for school kids going to Duffield. Because of the backlog it was full and standing from Derby with plenty of passengers left behind at stops en route. Anyone who asked the driver what was happening just got “No idea, I just do as I’m told.” Not good enough TB: not good enough for workers, not good enough for school children, not a good enough staff attitude. Sadly this is not unusual for the Sixes at the moment.This thread definitely shows the negative side, and there is most certainly a positive side.
Nottingham and Sutton do seem to be very reliable in recent months but they have also been through bad times. For example the Threes were terribly unreliable with many cancellations before the new buses arrived. Before TrentBarton gave up on the 141 it had become so unreliable that people really had given up using it. In addition to the 141, TB gave up running the Amberline leaving places like Eastwood and Langley Mill with no direct bus to Derby. I do wonder now having lost its evening service if the 90 will be the next to go.Yep but if you go to Nottingham you'll see the excellence that is Trentbarton over here: reliable services, friendly drivers, well presented buses. I have to say I do often see the same in Derby, but service cancellations are definitely more prevalent in Derby.
This thread definitely shows the negative side, and there is most certainly a positive side.
That's odd, becuase at the minute Trent seem to insist on putting Versas and Volvos on the little sixes, just becuase they fit round the new route, but this is never busy. Why they couldn't've done a switch, I don't know.I’m pleased for you that the Nottingham services are better. I can only speak for what I find and in my opinon Derby has been pretty abysmal recently - in particular referring to the Sixes, Nines, Comet and Red Arrow. Another example from a few days ago: two successive early morning northbound Sixes no-show (not cancelled on the App, just don’t turn up) then a Solo rocks up for the 6.1 Bakewell which is the peak service for school kids going to Duffield. Because of the backlog it was full and standing from Derby with plenty of passengers left behind at stops en route. Anyone who asked the driver what was happening just got “No idea, I just do as I’m told.” Not good enough TB: not good enough for workers, not good enough for school children, not a good enough staff attitude. Sadly this is not unusual for the Sixes at the moment.
It's very easy to think this way, but if you look back at the past and how often things have gone wrong for every mode of transport... but people will always come back to what is the best, and people forget past experiences very quickly in my opinion.will former passengers return? Maybe not, if they prefer their alternatives.
Can't forget the students either who have to get the bus and wouldn't have much choice for any other wayI also think there are many people who would never dream of getting a bus, but people who would will always come back. And there's always new passengers, new opportunities and to be totally honest the majority of passengers on buses are on there because they don't want to drive, can't or its the faster, cheaper option. For any of these reasons they will always keep trying the bus, maybe even if they go back to driving for a month or two. People soon get fed up of driving, parking etc, and anyone who would never think of buses never will anyway.
Glad to hear that it is all nice over in Notts. Yes I agree the drivers are friendly and buses are well presented but most importantly I would like a reliable service which is what Arriva, Midland Classic/Diamond etc are more or less able to do every day. Looking at the villager for example, today 740 is off the road and 701 only managed until 0830. With no spares and both missing diagrams next to each other causing 90 min gaps in what should be a 30 min service.Yep but if you go to Nottingham you'll see the excellence that is Trentbarton over here: reliable services, friendly drivers, well presented buses. I have to say I do often see the same in Derby, but service cancellations are definitely more prevalent in Derby.
This thread definitely shows the negative side, and there is most certainly a positive side.
Any speculation on what happened? Medical episode?TM Travel repainted ex Lothian Enviro 400 SN61 BBO was involved in an accident at Crystal Peaks bus station yesterday evening which demolished a number of bus shelters. It has resulted in the bus station being closed & buses stopping on various nearby roads.
What happened to it for it not to be in service?Skylink 128 (YX67 VFF) has re-entered service.
Seen in Loughborough:
It is former Skylink Nottingham, due to the decreased PVR of dropping the Loughborough leg; it was going spare. Yellow Skylink needs more vehicles with their increased PVR so it made sense.What happened to it for it not to be in service?
Thanks for the information. I saw a Versa (I think) on Skylink Derby todayIt is former Skylink Nottingham, due to the decreased PVR of dropping the Loughborough leg; it was going spare. Yellow Skylink needs more vehicles with their increased PVR so it made sense.
Yeah they increased the frequency of yellow skylink to every 15 minutes. On weekdays at the moment you'll see a mish mash of TrentBarton mangoes, Citaro 906, Solo 501 god forbid, and 107/108.Thanks for the information. I saw a Versa (I think) on Skylink Derby today
TM Travel repainted ex Lothian Enviro 400 SN61 BBO was involved in an accident at Crystal Peaks bus station yesterday evening which demolished a number of bus shelters. It has resulted in the bus station being closed & buses stopping on various nearby roads.
More information here, but nothing on why: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/traf...sh-drama-which-devastated-interchange-4601730Any speculation on what happened? Medical episode?
A major Sheffield bus station remains closed today as details emerged of the dramatic bus crash which devastated the site last night.
Travel bosses closed the Crystal Peaks bus station on Peaks Mount yesterday, after one of TM Travel’s vehicles appeared to have crashed into bus shelters, effectively demolishing them. Pictures from the scene show glass and debris on the ground.
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The road was also closed for a period of time while emergency services dealt with the incident, and the bus was later towed away by a rescue vehicle
The South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority has today issued a statement describing the incident, and confirming that the bus station remained closed today.
They said: “At around 6.30pm on Monday 22 April, a bus mounted the kerb and crashed into the bus shelters at Crystal Peaks Bus Station. No passengers were on the bus at the time and nobody was injured as a result of this incident.
"The bus station remains closed today (Tuesday, April 23). We are working with the site owners to arrange temporary facilities while repairs take place.”
They said they would keep customers updated on bus stop changes.
South Yorkshire Police and South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service also attended the incident, and both have issued statements.
The police said: “We were called yesterday (April 22) around 6.30pm to Crystal Peaks Bus Station, Peaks Mount, to reports of a single vehicle road traffic collision.
“It is reported that a bus was involved in a collision with a building. There were no injuries reported.
“Fire and police attended and the road was closed to allow for vehicle recovery and to clear the road.”
The fire service said it sent crews from Birley and Aston fire stations to the incident, and were on the scene until 7.04pm.
No comment has been available from TM Buses.
Fairly sure they have enough vehicles now, just VOR (vehicle off road) so they have the spares covering. I doubt the Mickleovers would transfer company.Yeah they increased the frequency of yellow skylink to every 15 minutes. On weekdays at the moment you'll see a mish mash of TB mangoes, Citaro 906, Solo 501 god forbid, and 107/108.
I'm really not sure what the plan is at the moment. Perhaps mickleover 101-106 could get drafted in?
Do we need to speculate?Any speculation on what happened? Medical episode?
More interested in where the extra drivers have come from. Kinchbus still routinely cancels local services 5, 9 11 etc pretty well every day. I don't understand why they don't save their shredded reputation by dropping the frequency to something they can reliably achieve.Yeah they increased the frequency of yellow skylink to every 15 minutes. On weekdays at the moment you'll see a mish mash of TrentBarton mangoes, Citaro 906, Solo 501 god forbid, and 107/108.
I'm really not sure what the plan is at the moment. Perhaps Mickleover 101-106 could get drafted in?
Yes, but they are not going to cancel Skylinks, are they, cos it makes more profitMore interested in where the extra drivers have come from. Kinchbus still routinely cancels local services 5, 9 11 etc pretty well every day. I don't understand why they don't save their shredded reputation by dropping the frequency to something they can reliably achieve.
Villagers KJN and 740 certainly "not to be used" at Meadow Road this afternoon. But rest assured, other routes are suffering as well as Villager.Glad to hear that it is all nice over in Notts. Yes I agree the drivers are friendly and buses are well presented but most importantly I would like a reliable service which is what Arriva, Midland Classic/Diamond etc are more or less able to do every day. Looking at the villager for example, today 740 is off the road and 701 only managed until 0830. With no spares and both missing diagrams next to each other causing 90 min gaps in what should be a 30 min service.