Football

[andrew bell]

Have heard avb is to be announced spurs boss within the next couple of days from some spurs fans.

Regardless what happened at Stamford Bridge I believe AVB is a good manager and was very harshly treated at Chelsea, he was asked to rebuild the team with younger players and mix the older players in with the youth, sometimes he had to not play the big names, and because these big name players were not happy being 'dropped' they threw the toys out of the pram and didn't play well, hence the results were not good and AVB got sacked

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Monday, 2nd July 2012

West Bromwich Albion have signed goalkeeper Ben Foster from Birmingham City on a three-year contract, with a possible two-year further extension at the end

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Tuesday, 3rd July 2012

Tottenham Hotspur have announced that they have appointed Andre Villas-Boas as their new manager (together with two of his "backroom" staff) on a three-year contract.

 

[EM2]

Tuesday, 3rd July 2012

Tottenham Hotspur have announced that they have appointed Andre Villas-Boas as their new manager (together with two of his "backroom" staff) on a three-year contract.

I wish I'd put money on it. I said they should go for him from the beginning.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Things are on the move at Tottenham Hotspur as they have just signed 22 year-old Icelandic attacking midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson from Hoffenheim for £7 million. This player has experience of the Premier League as he spent the second part of last season on-loan at Swansea City.

 

[David]

I've just seen on Twitter that Rangers will not be in the SPL next season after an "overwhelming" no vote.

I'm guess that means either 11-1 or 10-2.

 

[Darandio]

That was never in doubt though was it. The burning question is whether the SFL clubs allow them into the First Division, and that is looking inreasingly unlikely as well.

East Stirling v Rangers anyone?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I've just seen on Twitter that Rangers will not be in the SPL next season after an "overwhelming" no vote.

I'm guess that means either 11-1 or 10-2.

Who, then, will be the mysterious SPL "club 12" that was discussed in the proposals ?


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That was never in doubt though was it. The burning question is whether the SFL clubs allow them into the First Division, and that is looking inreasingly unlikely as well.

Will there be a Scottish League division 2 clubs referendum/vote, if the Scottish League division 1 clubs reject the idea ?
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News from London

Robin van Persie is adamant that he will not be extending his current contract with Arsenal.

 

[Scotrail84]

Can we make this "the lets all laugh at Rangers" thread ??

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Not really Scotrail84, unless we all laugh at Hibs' relative lack of success in recent years, Hearts' downfall under that Lithuanian bloke, Celtic's massive cock ups at the end of last season (Killie and Hearts), and their stressy wee Ginger 'Messiah' too...

Paul - I think Club 12 is Dundee, AFAIK the team who finished second in Div 1 go up, the bottom placed SPL team (Dunfermline) don't get a reprieve at the Gers' expense, which I think is correct.

WDDWA

 

[Darandio]

Yes, I believe that to be correct as well, Dundee will move into the SPL.

As for Paul's question about the division 2 clubs, they are all part of this discussion for Rangers moving into division 1. It's all 3 of the lower divisions that will decide the fate of Rangers. Moving down to division 1 was just the first proposal which is looking like being rejected. I presume they will just continue until they find a place for them, most likely in division three.

In reality, the lowest they can go is Division 3 due to there being no relegation from that league. If there was a complete refusal to put them in the SFL at any tier, there would be a place for another club, however, they would have to go through exactly the same process to get access to division 3. For that reason, it's virtually impossible that the clubs would choose another club to fill the space when the process has already started with Rangers. Also, it's rapidly approaching the start of the season and there likely wouldn't be time.

 

[CC 72100]

Van Persie has apparently said that he will not sign a new contract at Arsenal.

If this is true, then come on Fergie, cheeky cut price deal would be welcome to bring him to United

 

[Scotrail84]

Not really Scotrail84, unless we all laugh at Hibs' relative lack of success in recent years, Hearts' downfall under that Lithuanian bloke, Celtic's massive cock ups at the end of last season (Killie and Hearts), and their stressy wee Ginger 'Messiah' too...

Paul - I think Club 12 is Dundee, AFAIK the team who finished second in Div 1 go up, the bottom placed SPL team (Dunfermline) don't get a reprieve at the Gers' expense, which I think is correct.

WDDWA

Here mate we've got a chance to get rid of one of the ugly sisters who have been cheating for years on and off the park so I and many others will all laugh at rangers that they have finally been caught and punished. A once untouchable club now very much touchable. GIRUT

 

[atomicdanny]

Will there be a Scottish League division 2 clubs referendum/vote, if the Scottish League division 1 clubs reject the idea ?

Although what would the chances that Rangers won't play in scotland ever again, I've seen a lot of kick Rangers out or no to the newco?

 

[Scotrail84]

Although what would the chances that Rangers won't play in scotland ever again, I've seen a lot of kick Rangers out or no to the newco?

Hopefully a big chance!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I've just seen on Twitter that Rangers will not be in the SPL next season after an "overwhelming" no vote.

I'm guess that means either 11-1 or 10-2.

The only "FOR" vote was by Rangers.

The only "ABSTAIN" vote was by Kilmarnock.

All other 10 votes were "NO".

 

[Michael.Y]

The only "FOR" vote was by Rangers.

The only "ABSTAIN" vote was by Kilmarnock.

All other 10 votes were "NO".

I was led to believe Celtic would vote YES, if only because of the business case for keeping their rivals (who would be in no condition to mount a title challenge in their current state) in the SPL in order to keep the money rolling in.

This will be the first season in....well, ever, there will be no Old Firm derbies. Also, as a result, the Sky/ESPN SPL TV deal is likely to be renegotiated.

 

[Oswyntail]

I was led to believe Celtic would vote YES, if only because of the business case for keeping their rivals (who would be in no condition to mount a title challenge in their current state) in the SPL in order to keep the money rolling in.

Perhaps Celtic realised that, if they voted for Rangers, they would be branded as putting money over the greater interest of the other teams. As they no longer have their natural voting ally, they need to keep in with the rest of teh league. Should be a good thing

This will be the first season in....well, ever, there will be no Old Firm derbies. Also, as a result, the Sky/ESPN SPL TV deal is likely to be renegotiated.

Why? The TV folk must have realised the way the wind was going when they completed the deal. And they now have the prospect of a more competitive league, with the potential for more meaningful matches

 

[Michael.Y]

Why? The TV folk must have realised the way the wind was going when they completed the deal. And they now have the prospect of a more competitive league, with the potential for more meaningful matches

Only going on what I have read on another forum, but

a) the deal was negotiated in November '11
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15824173

b) Rangers only went into administration in February of this year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17015966

 

[Scotrail84]

Sky will be happy if Dundee come up as it brings a return of the Dundee derby.

 

[Ferret]

I'm no Celtic fan, but I'm pleased to see this result today - it's principles being put ahead of money for once, and it should be applauded. As for Rangers, go and start again in Div 3 and do things the right way.

Now, please can this same level of misfortune happen to the Salford Scum in the coming years?

 

[David]

Changing leagues for a few minutes ....

Look out League 1 ....

Colchester Utd have only signed Freddy Sears on a 3 year contract. Having seen him play for Scunthorpe while we had him on loan, he will be b****y good at this level.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I doubt it has half the appeal of the Old Firm though... Football fans at my college love the Old Firm. I doubt any would care about the Dundee derby, and I assume a similar pattern would be replicated across England.

 

[ACE1888]

Can we make this "the lets all laugh at Rangers" thread ??

Be Rude not too
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Not really Scotrail84, unless we all laugh at Hibs' relative lack of success in recent years, Hearts' downfall under that Lithuanian bloke, Celtic's massive cock ups at the end of last season (Killie and Hearts), and their stressy wee Ginger 'Messiah' too...

Paul - I think Club 12 is Dundee, AFAIK the team who finished second in Div 1 go up, the bottom placed SPL team (Dunfermline) don't get a reprieve at the Gers' expense, which I think is correct.

WDDWA

Poor response:roll:

 

[RyanB]

I doubt it has half the appeal of the Old Firm though... Football fans at my college love the Old Firm. I doubt any would care about the Dundee derby, and I assume a similar pattern would be replicated across England.

Have they only seen it on tv or have they experienced the bile and bigotry spewed forth at those games in person?

I was unfortunate enough to go along to one last year because I had nothing to do one Sunday and because I had been offered a ticket (in the Celtic end at Ibrox).

I left at half time after getting fed up of all the sectarian nonsense that seemed to be the focus of the game.

I've had the misfortune of seeing Rangers 'fans' peddle their sectarianism at Easter Road on many an occasion and have never seen anything been done about their songs, and thought that was bad, but OF derbies are many times worse.

I'll be glad to see the back of them.

This isn't the end of the saga though, HMRC, BDO (liquidators) and the Police are all wanting to have a look at dealings at Rangers, with some saying that this could go Nuclear (fraud on a level scarcely seen before).

 

[Ivo]

@ Matt:

As the resident Rangers fan, how do you see their fortunes progressing over the next few years, if at all? Do you think they will win the SPL any time soon (after x promotions obviously)? What prospects do you see for the remaining players? And if they do play East Stirling, what can we expect Jeff Stelling to say?

WDDWA

What does this mean?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

ACE1888 - I know! Unfortunately I'm on BlackBerry for the time being so can't compose a more sophisticated prose for a while, one'll come, rest assured. To be fair, it wasn't even a question I thought with meritable content in which to reply seriously, just a childish, immature interogative obviously designed to flame.
RyanB - No, because it is the only game in Scotland that shows any deal of quality (compared to the EPL), plus the big stakes on all games (even if the result doesn't matter), the rivalry, the hate etc. It sells, those who don't know much about Scottish football watch anyway, the same wouldn't happen for Dundee.
Ivo - I can't answer that until our fate is decided. Hopefully Jeff will realise the Beeb are better than Sky on Saturdays and admit such, othwerwise I don't know currently. WDDWA stands for We Don't Do Walking Away.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Back to a different matter....

It is expected that a final definite decision will soon be announced by the Internal Football FA on the two "goal-line" systems Hawk-Eye and GoalRef that have been in the process of evaluation for some time now.

 

[Oswyntail]

Only going on what I have read on another forum, but

a) the deal was negotiated in November '11
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15824173

b) Rangers only went into administration in February of this year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17015966

And even I knew that Rangers were going under back in 11/11. The TV people took a gamble on Rangers and lost. How sad.

Back to a different matter....

It is expected that a final definite decision will soon be announced by the Internal Football FA on the two "goal-line" systems Hawk-Eye and GoalRef that have been in the process of evaluation for some time now.

At the recent European Championships, there was only one incident where goal-line technology might have made a difference, in EnglandvUkraine. It is generally assumed that a goal should have been awarded. However, there was an unflagged offside in the build-up, which would not have been accounted for. So the only time "goal line technology" would have been used would have overturned a correct decision not to have awarded a goal.

 

[Scotrail84]

@ Matt:

As the resident Rangers fan, how do you see their fortunes progressing over the next few years, if at all? Do you think they will win the SPL any time soon (after x promotions obviously)? What prospects do you see for the remaining players? And if they do play East Stirling, what can we expect Jeff Stelling to say?



What does this mean?

I'm ain't no rangers fan but im sure that means " We Don't Do Walking Away" pfft its only the players that do that. Rats sinking ship come to mind.

 

[313103]

So Robin Van Persie is not going to stay, not surprising because that is what Arsenal captains do. Lets hope that Abou Diaby is the next Arsenal captain. That is not a big problem after all he has spent the best part of his eight years at Arsenal on the treatment table. A Eighteen month purple patch and he thinks he can dictate what the club are doing rightly or wrongly. If i was the manager i would make Diaby captain (just so that he goes next season) and put Van Persie in the reserves until his contract is up and then let him go.

Bigger players have come and gone, no doubt with Viera in charge of Football development at Man Citeh, money not being an issue and that we are a feeder club for them he will find himself amongst familiar faces.

I hope i have put this in the right thread i couldnt find a football thread i only saw a SPL thread!