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Neil Lennon's resignation at Celtic after 4 years then. Sad to see him go but things change and he's probably had enough of the Glasgow 'Gold Fish Bowl', not sure who we'll get next, personally I think Jackie McNamara would be a good (and sensible) call. Realistic too with the lack of finance in the Scottish game as it stands
 
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I am surprised to hear that Patrice Evra has signed a one-year contract extension at Manchester United. I wonder if the change of manager has anything to do with his decision ?
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Championship Play-Off

Derby County 0...Queens Park Rangers 1

Bobby Zamora scores at the end of normal time to ensure a quick return to the Premier League by Queens Park Rangers.

Steve McClaren must wonder if Wembley Stadium still haunts him...:roll:
 
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Commiserations to Derby, it must be tough to lose like that. But for us, what an amazing way to win. :D
 

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I am surprised to hear that Patrice Evra has signed a one-year contract extension at Manchester United. I wonder if the change of manager has anything to do with his decision ?
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Championship Play-Off

Derby County 0...Queens Park Rangers 1

Bobby Zamora scores at the end of normal time to ensure a quick return to the Premier League by Queens Park Rangers.

Steve McClaren must wonder if Wembley Stadium still haunts him...:roll:
:lol::lol::lol: @ Derby
 
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Am I mistaken or are the playoffs normally the other way round, league 2 on Saturday and championship on the Monday?

Would have been nice to see Derby back instead of 'arry's current lot.


I heard that real Madrid scored in fergie time taking the final to extra time
 
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I heard that real Madrid scored in fergie time taking the final to extra time

Not quite, it was in the 3rd of 5 added minutes. Anyway, Athletico completely crumbled in the last 10 minutes of extra time, and lost 4-1.
 

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Am I mistaken or are the playoffs normally the other way round, league 2 on Saturday and championship on the Monday?

Would have been nice to see Derby back instead of 'arry's current lot.
Oi! Nowt wrong with Harry's lot. :p And yes, I believe it is normally the other way round.
 

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Am I mistaken or are the playoffs normally the other way round, league 2 on Saturday and championship on the Monday?

Certainly used to be.
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Not quite, it was in the 3rd of 5 added minutes.

Not that Simeone would agree with 5 minutes added on, but it was correct, so much time wasting.

The guy lost the plot.
 

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Not that Simeone would agree with 5 minutes added on, but it was correct, so much time wasting. The guy lost the plot.

Was it not the case that Simeone had also ventured on the field of play to remonstrate earlier in the match than that occasion at the final part of the game which saw him admonished by the red card that was produced ?

And as a footnote, the "yellow card" scoreline ended...
Real Madrid 5...Atletico Madrid 7
 
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Not quite, it was in the 3rd of 5 added minutes. Anyway, Athletico completely crumbled in the last 10 minutes of extra time, and lost 4-1.

Crazy, 2 minutes from glory then they crumbled. Just as well Bale scored to make amends for his earlier performance (not passing and going for goal).
 

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Scottish Premiership play-off final (2nd leg)

Hibernian 0...Hamilton Academical 2

Being 2-0 up from their first leg win over Hamilton in the away fixture, Hibernian must have been confident to win this play-off with the second leg held on their own ground, but were still one goal to the good until the 90th minute when Hamilton equalised. The match then proceeded until it was time for the dreaded penalty shoot-out, which was won 4-3 by Hamilton.

It now seems that both the senior sides in Edinburgh will start the 2014/2015 season in the Scottish Championship.
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Rotherham win on penalties

4-3 penalty shoot out wins seemed to be the order of the day today.

Rotherham have now achieved promotion in the last two seasons, moving from League 2 to the Championship.
 
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Interesting financial matters about QPR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27538802
QPR promotion could give Football League financial headache

By Simon Stone
BBC Sport
Queens Park Rangers may have given the Football League a multi-million pound headache by winning promotion back to the Premier League.
Rangers beat Derby County 1-0 in the Championship play-off final at Wembley on Saturday.
Victory secured a top-flight return at the first attempt for the London club.
But it may give the Football League a problem recovering a huge sum in Financial Fair Play penalties.
Why are QPR facing a hefty financial punishment?

Any Football League club that exceeds an £8m loss for the 2013-14 campaign when their accounts are submitted by 1 December this year is subject to a punishment.
As the 2012-13 accounts of QPR Holdings Limited posted losses of £65.4m, with a wage bill of £68m, it is not hard to envisage another hefty deficit this term given the Loftus Road outfit have lost out on about £50m in television money.
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The rules encourage clubs to manage their finances in a way that allows the club to be sustainable
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The present parachute payments do not come close to covering those losses because relegated clubs receive £60m over four years.
QPR may have loaned out a number of high-earning players, including Loic Remy and Adel Taraabt, but many others remain, not all of whom featured in the play-off semi-final win over Wigan.
"If QPR or any club breaches the Financial Fair Play rules, there is a system in place that calculates the potential sanctions," said Ian Clayden, a football financial expert, speaking before Saturday's final.
"For the Championship, if a club is promoted to the Premier League there is a calculation table which calculates tax, if you will, on the club, based on spending over and above the acceptable limits."
But why is there a cap on losses?

In 2012, after two years of detailed discussions, the Football League and its clubs agreed on a Financial Fair Play framework across all three of its divisions.
A Football League statement said at the time that the framework aims to "reduce the levels of losses being incurred at some clubs and, over time, establish a league of financially self-sustaining professional football clubs".
It went on to say "the decision to adopt Financial Fair Play regulations follows a strategic review by the Football League board which identified the state of club finances as the organisation's biggest challenge".
Clayden said the rules were put in place because sustainability of football clubs is a key concern of the Football League. "The rules encourage clubs to manage their finances in a way that allows the club to be sustainable," he said.
Manchester City lifting the Premier League trophy
So how big a penalty could QPR face?

Had QPR remained in the Football League, they would have faced a transfer embargo until such time as they could "demonstrate they were on track to record acceptable losses or profit".
However, having secured promotion to the Premier League, they will be subject to a fine. A club is allowed to lose up to £8m without sanction. Above that level, there is a sliding scale on the next £10m of losses, with a maximum fine of £6.681m.
Once losses exceed £18m, the fine is imposed on a strict pound-for-pound basis.
So, should there be an overall loss of £30m, the Football League would be left chasing almost £19m. If it was £50m, the figure would be nearly £39m and if QPR were to match last year's loss, their fine would be almost £54m.
Are other Championship clubs happy?

Not really. The regulations have attracted plenty of criticism from member clubs. For some, the parachute payments, coupled with the £8m losses allowed, distort the finances of relegated clubs.
Earlier this month, Bournemouth chairman Jeff Mostyn said Championship clubs were hopeful of changing the Financial Fair Play rules because the boundaries were unrealistic.
Financial Fair Play
Championship clubs have to reduce losses, season-on-season, to a maximum of £5m (£3m can be funded by shareholders) by 2015-16
Championship clubs are permitted losses of £8m (£5m funded by shareholders) in 2013-14
Championship sanctions start in January 2015
League One and League Two clubs have limit on spending as a percentage of turnover
League One and League Two sanctions already in place
"We are trying to have the boundaries extended," Mostyn told BBC Radio Solent. "Everyone recognises that, with clubs coming into the Championship with a first-season £23m parachute payment, something has to be done."
Mostyn recently criticised the Financial Fair Play rules for being implemented before the parachute payments deal. "The current limitations were decided by a group of people who are no longer playing in the Championship," he said.
"There are only about 40% of the clubs playing in the Championship that had anything to do with those and it was prior to the huge parachute payments deal."
However, all four proposals - three of them related to boosting the level of losses and owner investment permitted - were defeated in a vote by the 24 clubs.
The fourth proposal was for the rules to be imposed based on 'real time' financial figures instead of the existing retrospective system but it, too, failed to attract the necessary 75% backing.
Football League chief executive Shaun Harvey said other alternatives would now be examined.
Can't the Premier League help out?

The Premier League has previously told the Football League it would have no involvement in retrieving the money, considering the matter to be none of its business.
Therefore, it would not withhold any television cash from the Hoops, forcing the Football League to actively pursue QPR for any financial penalty.
Clayden said: "It creates an added level of complexity as to whether or not one association or organisation can fine one member of another."
The situation is further complicated by the fact that any fine, instead of being distributed amongst other Football League clubs, would go to charity.
And if the Football League cannot get its money?

The Football League believe its regulations are robust enough for them to be enforced but, given the potential sums involved, the chance of them being challenged in the courts is high.
Derby will no doubt feel aggrieved if QPR escape any kind of sanction - the Rams have operated within the regulations in the last financial year, posting a loss of £7.1m.
They - and others - would argue that the Financial Fair Play regulations are worthless if they have no teeth.
 

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The Scottish Championship looks more exciting than the SPL next year with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers contesting matters.

Ironic two of the three biggest Clubs by attendance (Rangers and Hearts) plying their wares outwith the top tier.

Imagine Arsenal and Liverpool being in The Championship at the same time :idea:
 

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The Scottish Championship looks more exciting than the SPL next year with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers contesting matters.

To be honest to be more exciting than the Scottish Premiership isn't really very hard as it has all the appeal of a wet rag.
 

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Nice to see Fleetwood beating Burton 1-0 in League Two play off today which mean they are promotion to League One, it be nice to watch Fleetwood play at Boundary Park next season but hopefully Oldham will beat them home and away next season.
 

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Nice to see Fleetwood beating Burton 1-0 in League Two play off today which mean they are promoted to League One. It be nice to watch Fleetwood play at Boundary Park next season but hopefully Oldham will beat them home and away next season.

Fleetwood appear to have won promotion from lower leagues a number of times in the last 10 years and amazingly, had Blackpool not managed to register a win over Wigan Athletic very near to the final game of last season and were saved from relegation by a mere two points, there would have been a most interesting local derby this season in League 1.
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The Scottish Championship looks more exciting than the SPL next year with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers contesting matters.

The other clubs in the Scottish Championship next season will surely see higher attendances at matches as a result of these three teams being in that league.
 

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Meanwhile, over in Spain, the tiny club of Eibar have reached the Primera División of La Ligs, yet face possible relegation to Segunda División B (the third division). Why?

SMALL-TOWN EIBAR TO BE PUNISHED FOR THEIR SUCCESS ?

At Ipurua, the mist rolls down the green hillside, across the roofs and right over the pitch. The town of Eibar has a population of 27,000 people and sits halfway up the valley of the River Ego in the Basque Country, northern Spain.

At the top of the town, up steep streets, stands Ipurua, the picturesque home ground of Second Division club Eibar. It is surrounded by mountains to the north and south and the best view may just be the one from the two blocks of flats that tower over the stand. Not that they have to tower much to look over the short, squat side of this stadium.

On the back wall of one stand is a mural that shows a Basque flag alongside a Scotland one, plus the shield of Eibar with the slogan "Scotland the Brave." The Escocia la Brava supporters' club was born out of a trip in 2001 to watch the Five Nations rugby, during which a group of Eibar fans became enamoured with the atmosphere and tried to replicate it here. A couple of times a year, Scots join them in Eibar for games.

"Wearing kilts and wigs, taking photos by the mural," laughs the supporters' club president Joseba Combarro. They try to visit Scotland once a year, too.
Tiny Eibar is enjoying a superb season, albeit one that could be ruined by forces well beyond their control.


It seems fitting somehow. There's a small-town British feel to it but something very Basque about it as well -- in footballing terms, these are cultures that are intertwined. Here, it feels right to talk not of a stadium but a ground and the ground holds just 6,500, dwarfed by the landcsape around it, exposed to the elements. There's something about Ipurua and about Eibar, something locked in time, old fashioned but genuine, something built on sacrifice and humility.

This is the kind of place where young players from the Basque Country's bigger clubs would come on loan to toughen up. Xabi Alonso, for one. Ipurua is redolent of rain and mud going back through much of Eibar's 75-year history.

This may be the best moment in their history and yet supporters have mixed emotions. These are bitter-sweet days.

Eibar were promoted from Spain's regionalised, four group, 80-plus team Second Division B in the summer, coming up via the play-offs. They have the smallest ground and the smallest average attendance in the Second Division at around 3,000. They have the smallest budget too (3.5 million euros) and pay lower wages than anyone. And no team comes from a smaller town. But they are top. With each passing week a first-ever appearance in the First Division appears more likely. It is a miracle.

They are racking up their best statistics ever, overcoming even the Eibar team that came so close in 2004-05. That team was coached by José Luis Mendilíbar, who went on to coach Athletic Bilbao, Valladolid and Osasuna. It included Joseba Llorente, who later played for Real Sociedad, Gorka Iraizoz, Athletic Bilbao's goalkeeper, and a creative attacker called David Silva.

Silva was 18 and on loan, a Canary Islander a long way from home. Now he is a World Cup winner. Famously, he stopped rather than scoring because an opponent was down. It was the 91st minute of a vital game and it was 1-1. That was the goal, they say, that could have won promotion. But honour mattered. They still talk about that Eibar team as the side that "was in primera for ten minutes."

One of Silva's teammates that day was Gaizka Garitano. Now he is Eibar's manager and now, their chances of promotion may be greater than ever. The secret is no secret: it is sacrifice, just as it always was. Garitano talks about Silva learning about the "identity" of the club, rooted always in the group. No one thinks he is a star and not just because no one is a star: Eibar stay strictly within their budget, they do not spend to chase promotion. Instead, they build.

"One thing is non-negotiable, now and then: we're all the same, there are no splits and anyone who does not share that view has no place here," Garitano says. "That team came close. Now this team is too," he adds. It is an astonishing success story, as implausible as it is inspirational.

And yet relegation may be closer than promotion. Yes, really.

If what happens on the pitch delights Eibar's fans, what is happening off the pitch disgusts them. Unusually for a Spanish club, Eibar are financially
sound: they never spend what they do not have and there is money in the club account. The league's president Javier Tebas even described them as a "model club."

Unlike so many other clubs they had few financial problems until, that is, financial problems were imposed upon them through no fault of their own.

Now the situation is stark: if Eibar do not raise 1.7 million euros by August, they face being relegated back to the Second Division B.

According to the law -- Real Decreto 1251/1999, which became applicable to Eibar when they were promoted to the Second Division in the summer and thus took their place in what is formally classified as professional football -- every team has to have a capital equal to 25 percent of the average expenses of all the teams in the Second Division, not including the two clubs with the biggest outgoings and the two clubs with the smallest outgoings in the division.

In theory it is a way of guaranteeing the survival of clubs but in practice, it could cripple Eibar.

They are being punished precisely for being a small club that has always operated within its budget and for making the "mistake" of winning promotion to a division that is not only their historic place, but one in which they had not competed for five years.

They are being punished for earning the right to compete in a division where every team's budget dwarfs their own. They are forced to create a budget dictated by other clubs, more than fifty percent of whom are in or have been through administration.

Eibar's social capital is 422,253 euros. They are in the black, not the red.

They are healthy, they do not have debts, their players are paid -- and on time. But 422,253 euros is not enough. They have six months to increase their capital value in shares to 2,146,525, a figure set not by their budget or their ability to guarantee survival, but by everyone else's. And they may pay for that with their own survival.

Somehow, they have to find 1,724,272 euros and in only six months. It is a race against time -- with their legs bound together and their hands tied behind their backs.

A share issue will start in August; in the first phase, members will be allowed to buy shares at 50 euros per share. In the second phase, it will be opened up to others. But at Ipurua they are not optimistic. 1.7 million euros is a lot of money, especially for a small club in a small city with few fans, many of them under eighteen, over sixty or unemployed. This season around 3,000 are attending most games, almost double the average gate last season. They would have to buy 566 euros' worth of shares each or other fans would have to buy shares in the second phase.

The only solution, the last resort, may be an investor, which would probably mean the club slipping out of the control of those who truly care for it. A healthy, debt-free club forced into the hands of a new owner. The ultimate in cynicism.

If Eibar cannot raise the money, the immediate consequence would be relegation back to the Second Division B -- the division's best team dragged down by its worst ones. Furthermore, what they win on the pitch could be lost off it -- from Spain's top flight to its third tier in the blink of an eye.

It is, says the town's mayor with marked understatement, "totally unfair." Eibar may be punished for being well run in a league of clubs that are poorly run, a team that is overachieving on sacrifice and solidarity.

"A model club," the league’s president said. And this is their reward.
 

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http://www.spyghana.com/can-nigerias-best-team-win-world-cup/

The line between corrupt soccer and corrupt politics is almost invisible. Nigeria is, after all, the country where there was a Senate investigation into the country’s poor performance at the 2008 Africa Cup of Nations, and the nation’s executive branch once took over the national team.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/u/probe-into-match-fixing-for-scotland-v-nigeria-game.1401204283


Nigeria - whose home game it is - have previously been the subject of investigations into illegal betting. Fifa are currently investigating allegations of match fixing in the World Cup qualifier between Kenya and Nigeria on November 14, 2009.
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23253562

The owner of a Nigerian side beaten 67-0 in a vital match has disowned and disbanded the club.
Bubayaro lost heavily to Police Machine, who were looking to secure promotion to the lowest tier of the Nationwide League Division.
Machine's promotion rivals Plateau United Feeder won their match against Akruba, played simultaneously, 79-0.


Honest as the day is long those Nigerians.
 
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http://deadspin.com/nigeria-has-the-most-absurdly-crooked-soccer-league-on-1451826927

There's something special going on in Nigeria. The Nigerian Professional Football League's season ended earlier this week, and with it wraps up the most stunning display of home field advantage in recent memory. Well, that, or everyone involved is just horribly, amazingly, profoundly corrupt.
There is team-to-team corruption, with the visiting team sometimes being bribed with cash or win trading. There is official corruption, with referees being paid off or threatened. And there is good old fashioned American gamesmanship-style corruption,


http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/nigeria-fed-bans-soccer-chairman-for-corruption/


The Nigeria Football Federation has banned the chairman of its own disciplinary committee for 10 years for taking a bribe from a club.
 
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Memorable dates in Manchester City's Illustrious History:

1937: Division 1 Title Winners for the first time, under Wilf Wild
1956: FA Cup Winners under Les McDowall
1968: Division 1 Title Winners under Joe Mercer
1969: FA Cup Winners under Joe Mercer
1983: Yaya Toure is born
1984: Yaya Toure's 1st Birthday
1985: Yaya Toure's 2nd Birthday
1986: Yaya Toure's 3rd Birthday
1987: Yaya Toure's 4th Birthday
1988: Yaya Toure's 5th Birthday
1989: Yaya Toure's 6th Birthday
1990: Yaya Toure's 7th Birthday
1991: Yaya Toure's 8th Birthday
1992: Yaya Toure's 9th Birthday
1993: Yaya Toure's 10th Birthday
1994: Yaya Toure's 11th Birthday
1995: Yaya Toure's 12th Birthday
1996: Yaya Toure's 13th Birthday
1997: Yaya Toure's 14th Birthday
1998: Yaya Toure's 15th Birthday
1999: Yaya Toure's 16th Birthday
2000: Yaya Toure's 17th Birthday
2001: Yaya Toure's 18th Birthday
2002: Yaya Toure's 19th Birthday
2003: Yaya Toure's 20th Birthday
2004: Yaya Toure's 21st Birthday
2005: Yaya Toure's 22nd Birthday
2006: Yaya Toure's 23rd Birthday
2007: Yaya Toure's 24th Birthday
2008: Yaya Toure's 25th Birthday
2009: Yaya Toure's 26th Birthday
2010: Yaya Toure's 27th Birthday
2011: Yaya Toure's 28th Birthday; FA Cup Winners under Roberto Mancini
2012: Yaya Toure's 29th Birthday; Premier League Champions under Roberto Mancini
2013: Yaya Toure's 30th Birthday
2014: Yaya Toure's 31st Birthday; Premier League Champions under Manuel Pellegrini
 

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