YankeeRailfan
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I'm from the US so please excuse my ignorance regarding your traction (steam or diesel electric). Your 2-10-0's are the biggest steamers in use correct?
I'm from the US so please excuse my ignorance regarding your traction (steam or diesel electric). Your 2-10-0's are the biggest steamers in use correct?
I'm from the US so please excuse my ignorance regarding your traction (steam or diesel electric). Your 2-10-0's are the biggest steamers in use correct?
The LNER built a 2-8-0+0-8-2 Garratt. Outweighed and out muscled any other steam loco built for use on the railways of Britain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_U1
http://www.thewoodheadsite.org.uk/c.../BeyerGarratt.htm&menu=/MotivePower/Locos.htm
Which should give the A1 crew something to be getting on with once the P2 and the V4 are out of the way.....
.The US railways, effectively starting in the wide open prairies and being built decades later, were built for much larger trains from the get go, which is why they were able to construct monsters
P2 and V4?
Currently the Riddles 2-10-0s are the biggest steam.
29,527lbf tractive effort, so impressive for an industrial (a typical Hunslet Austerity had a tractive effort of 23,870lbf) but still well short of the big mainline freight and express passenger locos in the "Top Trump" stakes.Didn't the 'Mardy Monster' have some ridiculously high tractive effort?
Now that would be a sight to see, but sadly not: Being a full metre higher (plus change) and presumably somewhat wider than the UK loading gauge, it would no doubt be involved in an altercation with the first bridge or station platform that it encountered, and I suspect that Network Rail would have a fit when they saw the axle loadings!Thanks chaps, don't see our N&W 611 ever coming across.
I hadn't seen anything about the intention to build a new V4; I certainly can't spot anything about it online. Don't the P2 group have enough on their hands building the P2 for the foreseeable future?They will be the next 'new build' projects. Both designed by Nigel Gresley, the P2 was a 2-8-2 express passenger engine and the V4 was a light 2-6-2 mixed traffic loco.
In the context of the biggest locomotive used on the railways of Britain I'd say it was the Princess Coronations - popularly referred to as the Duchesses. The previously mentioned 9Fs were just over sixty six feet long whilst the Duchess was just over seventy three feet long. Capable of generating over 3,000 hp when being fired by two firemen to keep that fifty square foot grate fed they were just about the most powerful too.
I hadn't seen anything about the intention to build a new V4; I certainly can't spot anything about it online. Don't the P2 group have enough on their hands building the P2 for the foreseeable future?
where does "Duke of Gloucester" come in the power rankings? That was claimed back in the 1960's to be the most powerful steamer in the UK
The Observer's Book of Railway Locomotives, published in 1957, gives the following tractive efforts for the most powerful express passenger locomotives of the era:She was an 8P so up there. From Wikipedia it gives her 39,080lbf but I'm starting to get dubious about those figures as it gives the Coronation as 40,000lbf and a Princess Royal 40,285lbf...
Thanks, that would make more sense, as a V4 would surely be something of a niche interest!I think the V4 was part of their April Fools' announcement last year or the year before. A few people didn't realise! To be fair it was convincingly written.
She was an 8P so up there. From Wikipedia it gives her 39,080lbf but I'm starting to get dubious about those figures as it gives the Coronation as 40,000lbf and a Princess Royal 40,285lbf...
So are we just ignoring the existence of the LMS Garratt (a class of 33) and the LNER U1? Both of them were heavier, longer and more powerful than the Coronations.
I think the V4 was part of their April Fools' announcement last year or the year before. A few people didn't realise! To be fair it was convincingly written.