Class 707 - SWT: Introduction into service

[BRX]

If that's how Lambeth treats its new trains, we'll be happy to rehome them 'up north'

Clapham Junction aint in Lambeth, I'll have you know!

 

[westcoaster]

I was in Clapham yard this morning, it hasn't moved, it's still covered in graffiti and there are 'no entry' stickers on the cab doors!

Its officially not Swt's train until they accept it after testing/ commissioning and fault free running, it will be up to Siemens to remove the graffiti. Stickers are to warn of unwanted visitors , as the cab doors locks also switch on the batteries.

 

[4-COR 3142]

If that's how Lambeth treats its new trains, we'll be happy to rehome them 'up north'

Clapham Junction aint in Lambeth, I'll have you know!

Whether it's Clapham Junction or Lambeth, surely they're both 'up north'!

 

[spark001uk]

Its officially not Swt's train until they accept it after testing/ commissioning and fault free running, it will be up to Siemens to remove the graffiti. Stickers are to warn of unwanted visitors , as the cab doors locks also switch on the batteries.

Surely it wasn't Siemens' fault it was parked down the very end of the most remote road there though?

 

[hwl]

Clapham Junction aint in Lambeth, I'll have you know!

Lambeth is only 900m away and the local Police know plenty of them travel west into Wandsworth to commit crimes they "just don't have enough evidence or the current abode of certain individuals"

 

[BRX]

The next 707 is apparently due to be delivered tonight, travelling from Dollands Moor to Clapham on this path with a pair of 56s in charge:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O57863/2016/12/22/advanced

 

[Bigfoot]

The next 707 is apparently due to be delivered tonight, travelling from Dollands Moor to Clapham on this path with a pair of 56s in charge:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O57863/2016/12/22/advanced

Canceled.

 

[BRX]

That path was cancelled but replaced with another. Here it is in south london last night

https://youtu.be/CnExfXgP784

 

[HeelBurton]

That path was cancelled but replaced with another. Here it is in south london last night

https://youtu.be/CnExfXgP784

They appear to be sitting in the depot, nowhere near 49 road this time. More like 38 road but I couldn't see from my 0728 Clapham departure.


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[Juniper Driver]

It could be they will use an ASDO system that can including auto door opening like the 700s do at certain stations, but full ATO (i.e. train driving), cannot be used on the SW network, as surely there is no trackside infrastructure for ATO, neither is it intended.

At the moment.

 

[D365]

At the moment.

Surely if any planning for ATO on the Waterloo routes was to take place, it would be linked to the implementation of Crossrail 2.

 

[spark001uk]

Don't forget Sparkrail 1 is proposed to be ATO compliant (a dedicated line directly from Waterloo to my back garden).

 

[trainmania100]

New 707 at Clapham junction today

 

[D365]

Good luck keeping that one clean!

 

[1018509]

What are all the wagons associated with the 707 arrival at Clapham for?

 

[spark001uk]

What are all the wagons associated with the 707 arrival at Clapham for?

As discussed already, these are used to provide sufficient braking force, as the brakes on the 707s aren't yet commissioned.

 

[Uzair]

Certainly looks very nice.

 

[Monty]

New 707 at Clapham junction today

Least it's inside the confines of Clapham Yard this time, the first one was not.

 

[urpert]

I prefer the all around yellow end to the small yellow bib on the 700s.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

New 707 at Clapham junction today

Is that 707 003 or 707 004?

 

[fgwrich]

Are these 707s being commissioned in Clapham / Wimbledon or Northam Depots?

Come to think of it, I wonder when Northam will see it's first 707.

 

[Monty]

Are these 707s being commissioned in Clapham / Wimbledon or Northam Depots?

Come to think of it, I wonder when Northam will see it's first 707.

Commissioning will take place at Clapham, and Northam won't see any 707s as maintenance will be carried out at Wimbledon Park.

 

[HeelBurton]

Is that 707 003 or 707 004?

Both


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[The Growl]

I prefer the all around yellow end to the small yellow bib on the 700s.

It suits the SWT style, but not the 700. The buffers on the 707 make it look like the yellow has leaked, or hasn't gone far enough.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Both


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Just the one in the picture...

 

[HeelBurton]

Just the one in the picture...

003 in picture. 004 country end attached


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[MCR247]

IMO it would've looked better if the orange and blue bits got slightly involved on the bit that's currently all yellow, the lights would even seem to suit that

 

[Peter Mugridge]

003 in picture. 004 country end attached

Thank you.

 

[Mordac]

Surrey commuters are complaining already: http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/south-west-trains-passengers-brand-12354388#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$2

Apparently they're "cattle trucks," with "nowhere to sit or stand." I could understand no where to seat, but there's clearly a lot of room to stand, as the video the article includes clearly shows :roll:

 

[swt_passenger]

Surrey commuters are complaining already: http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/south-west-trains-passengers-brand-12354388#rlabs=2%20rt$sitewide%20p$2

Apparently they're "cattle trucks," with "nowhere to sit or stand." I could understand no where to seat, but there's clearly a lot of room to stand, as the video the article includes clearly shows :roll:

The seating per train is hardly any different to the 455s, it's just spread out amongst the extra coach.

2 x 5 car 707 = 542 seats, 640 standing, with wide gangways, access throughout train.
2 x 4 car 455 + 1 x 456 = 591 seats, 569 standing, narrow or no gangways, access along train pretty useless.

Figures from the Southwestern franchise ITT, table 5.3.

But as the comments below the article correctly point out, the trains won't actually serve the area the paper is targeted at...