Fatality 2/4/17 near Bridgwater. (Now established no train involved)

[David57]

Currently sitting on 1V48, at Signal B74 just North of Bridgwater, with reports that the Train in front has struck a person.
Thoughts go out to All involved.

 

[221129]

Currently sitting on 1V48, at Signal B74 just North of Bridgwater, with reports that the Train in front has struck a person.
Thoughts go out to All involved.

Unfortunately whilst there has been a fatality, no train has been involved.

Update for you, you should be on the move shortly. You are just North of Highbridge not Bridgwater.

 

[David57]

The initial information given was that the Train in front had hit a person.
Just been updated, that no other train was involved.
1V48 is at Highbridge, not Bridgwater as I previously thought, according to information given by the XC Crew (who have been excellent in passing on information), we are going back to Worle, or Weston Super Mare.

 

[QueensCurve]

Unfortunately whilst there has been a fatality, no train has been involved.

Update for you, you should be on the move shortly. You are just North of Highbridge not Bridgwater.

Sad to hear of the fatality.

How come no train is involved?

 

[David57]

1V48 is ging back to Bristol, where it will either terminate, or continue to Plymouth via Westbury.

 

[GW43125]

Just read on Facebook (so don't know how true this is) that somebody jumped off a bridge and no train involved.

 

[221129]

Just read on Facebook (so don't know how true this is) that somebody jumped off a bridge and no train involved.

There was a fall from a bridge.

 

[221129]

After BTP were happy to open the line Avon & Somerset Police have refused. 1A17, 1S47 & 1V48 remain trapped.

Just confirmed 1V48 to set back to Bristol & Terminate.

 

[Elecman]

How can the local plod overrule BTP on railway incidents as they are the controlling force?

 

[221129]

How can the local plod overrule BTP on railway incidents as they are the controlling force?

As they were first on the scene it becomes their crime scene so to speak. Also from the info I'm getting I'm not sure BTP are really set up to deal with it.

 

[najaB]

How can the local plod overrule BTP on railway incidents as they are the controlling force?

I guess because the person jumped/was pushed from non-railway property.

 

[221129]

I guess because the person jumped/was pushed from non-railway property.

Nope it was the station footbridge.

 

[najaB]

Nope it was the station footbridge.

Ah, okay. Thought it was an road bridge.

 

[David57]

On 1V48.
Returning to Bristol, and Train cancelled.

Running back wrong line to Uphill Jcn.

 

[Statto]

As they were first on the scene it becomes their crime scene so to speak. Also from the info I'm getting I'm not sure BTP are really set up to deal with it.

Local plod going by worst case scenario until evidence proves otherwise.

 

[Elecman]

Perhaps NR should now indicate that they will bill the local constabulary all the delay minutes costs from the time that BTP were happy for trains to restart until the time that the local plods agree, that will quickly speed up thier investigations

 

[221129]

Local plod going by worst case scenario until evidence proves otherwise.

The problem is the evidence is indicating otherwise.

 

[221129]

Perhaps NR should now indicate that they will bill the local constabulary all the delay minutes costs from the time that BTP were happy for trains to restart until the time that the local plods agree, that will quickly speed up thier investigations

Why? Everything pointed to Suicide until A&S did some more digging and thought otherwise.

 

[plymothian]

Another (speculated) suicide on this stretch of line, following the guy who jumped in front of an XC earlier in the week at Nailsea.

 

[fabs]

A constable acting on behalf of the coroner may overrule BTP even on railway property. The financial penalties won't even appear on plod's radar if they think there's a nefarious background to the case.

 

[LordCreed]

A&S have declared it a scene of crime.

Those that are staff and have access to internal systems, I would strongly advise that you don't give out any further information. If what I've read in various logs is true, then the information will no doubt appear in local news.

 

[bb21]

Perhaps NR should now indicate that they will bill the local constabulary all the delay minutes costs from the time that BTP were happy for trains to restart until the time that the local plods agree, that will quickly speed up thier investigations

Don't be daft.

The local plod didn't go out of their ways to cause disruption.

 

[plymothian]

A&S have declared it a scene of crime.

Those that are staff and have access to internal systems, I would strongly advise that you don't give out any further information. If what I've read in various logs is true, then the information will no doubt appear in local news.

Indeed, considering it is very clearly marked Internal use only.

Thread should probably locked for now until details become publicly available.

Suffice to say, the line will be blocked for a long while, with road transport now in place.

 

[Robertj21a]

Perhaps NR should now indicate that they will bill the local constabulary all the delay minutes costs from the time that BTP were happy for trains to restart until the time that the local plods agree, that will quickly speed up thier investigations

Rather a silly comment ?

If the police feel that an investigation may be necessary then that must take priority, over everything. Presumably the BTP don't cover ALL aspects of police work ?

 

[Mag_seven]

Suffice to say, the line will be blocked for a long while, with road transport now in place.

Wrong - lines have reopened at 16.50! (OK I suppose you could argue that 4 hours or so is a long time!)

 

[LAX54]

Wrong - lines have reopened at 16.50! (OK I suppose you could argue that 4 hours or so is a long time!)

When you consider the re-open target for a fatality is 60 to 90 mins, then yes 4 hours is a long time ! When you have a fatality that no one saw, then its nearly always going to involve SOCO.

 

[PHILIPE]

Local news reports man alive when landed on the tracks but died while being attended to by paramedics, Re earlier remarks in connection with Civil Police, they would be interested as he would have been on a public road on top of the bridge and, if crime scene as reported, more than interested.

 

[richw]

, they would be interested as he would have been on a public road on top of the bridge and, if crime scene as reported, more than interested.

Other reports are saying he fell from the station footbridge. I guess if something suspicious they'd need the civvy police if btp not locally available?

 

[221129]

Local news reports man alive when landed on the tracks but died while being attended to by paramedics, Re earlier remarks in connection with Civil Police, they would be interested as he would have been on a public road on top of the bridge and, if crime scene as reported, more than interested.

Civvies attended initially as they were obviously closer than BTP.

 

[warrior33]

When you consider the re-open target for a fatality is 60 to 90 mins, then yes 4 hours is a long time ! When you have a fatality that no one saw, then its nearly always going to involve SOCO.

The 60-90 minute target has also been removed by BTP, some months ago now. Although us in Network Rail and some BTP, will still always attempt to work to the time.

No idea why the target was removed but this has been since around Sept/Oct.