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TRIVIA - Things you saw travelling on BR that you don't see today

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The ability to see through the driver's cab in central Scotland (101s/107s/303s/311s)

I always enjoyed looking out the rear window.

Not sure how far apart the signals are, but it was surprising how close behind the more powerful LHCS stock was on the run between Stirling and Bridge of Allan/Dunblane.
 
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Not my experience. We never saw anybody 'cut back' vegetation, no need.

That is what I said! You can view many "then" and "now" photos where what was once open country 50 years ago, now there are now mature trees alongside the line. After the demise of steam keeping the lineside clear has taken a low priority
 

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No; AWS ramps have been extinct for decades. There are plenty of AWS magnets around though.

The ramp is the obstacle deflector. Plenty of them about.
A lot less of the longer thinner electro magnets about right enough.
 

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A full service restaurant car , I used one on the way to Glasgow once for a full English, on the way from Paignton with "High Tea" and between Perth and Inverness having lunch Roast Beef etc. A wonderful experience on all three occasions.
And as someone has also mentioned luggage in advance. The three types, convey and deliver, collect and convey and collect, convey and deliver. What a useful service.
I
 

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Station WH Smith’s stalls with brown shutters and magazines and newspapers laid out in front of you.

Oh, the nostalgia of it all.

The brown shutters have gone, but there's still such a stall at Crewe.
 

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There were still non-corridor compartment EPB and Class 302 EMUs around until the late '80s or early '90s, but I think someone got murdered in one so they painted a red stripe above the windows of compartment cars and latterly used them only in peak hours wherever possible.

The Hampshire 205s still had them right up to withdrawal, IIRC.
 

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Red netting flags on long wooden poles in possessions.
Regular Single Line Working during planned engineering work
Crew Buses
A lack of lineside vegetation
 

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Red netting flags on long wooden poles in possessions.
Regular Single Line Working during planned engineering work
Crew Buses
A lack of lineside vegetation

By and large , few worries about possession overruns also ( I never worried about them personally)

Crew buses deserve a seperate book, some of them a bit dodgy shall we say in terms of ambience and driver skills....
 

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Someone mentioned WH Smith, but I always remember John Menzies stalls at stations, in particular the cramped but usually very busy shop in Inverness station. It was usually where I purchased my Ian Allan ABC, and latterly Platform 5 books.
 

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The scream of a Landore 'Castle' whistling as it dipped and rolled over the Westbury Line Junction at Reading as it passed at the speed of light on the Up evening 'South Wales Pullman'.

And the thud and crash as the Up Main Home was returned to Danger after it had passed.

The clank of a 61XX pulling in with a down 'residential' from Paddington.

The exciting twist and roll as an Up express at Slough as it passed over the two ends of the triangular junctions on the Mains leading to Windsor.

The hoards of porters descending on an Up arrival at Paddington and the taxis conveniently situated between Platforms 8 and 9.

The sliding ventilators that didn't because of years of grime in the grooves.

Smuts flying in through the open ventilator.

Not being able to see out of windows because they were only cleaned when the coach had its annual overhaul.

The dim compartment lights which slowly got brighter as the train accelerated.

The notice at the entrance to the platforms which stated that 'All tickets must be shewn'.

The carriage roof boards which listed faraway places with strange sounding names, like 'Paddington - Swansea - Carmarthen - Pembroke Dock'

Flickering oil lamps and the smell of paraffin. Little yellow pools of light under the platform canopies of a cold winter's evening. Cups of tea being filled at the station buffet by a lady with an enormous two handled tea pot - the cups, about a couple of dozen of them, sat in a rack over a sort of sink so excess tea that slopped over was simply washed away. The tea cups and saucers were green and looked indestructible...except for the chipped ones. My father told me it was just like the NAAFI...

The 'Speak Your Weight' machines on the platforms.

Massive wooden sack barrows with cast iron wheels. One at Reading had 'Islip' carefully painted on it, and its Tare Weight, in curlicue script.

It was a different world. I don't think anybody under the age of 60 or so realises how different it was. The Second World War had finished only five or six years earlier - shortages, grime and hardship of one form or another were normal. Pizzas, takeaways, supermarkets and canned beers were unknown. But outside the railways the world was changing, slowly at first but the pace then quickened - but once on the station or in the train the world was again as it should be.

This is the real reason why Dr. Beeching has such a bad press - he pulled the railways into the modern world and all these known, safe, comforting things were ripped away.
 
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The scream of a Landore 'Castle' whistling as it dipped and rolled over the Westbury Line Junction at Reading as it passed at the speed of light on the Up evening 'South Wales Pullman'.

And the thud and crash as the Up Main Home was returned to Danger after it had passed.

The clank of a 61XX pulling in with a down 'residential' from Paddington.

The exciting twist and roll as an Up express at Slough as it passed over the two ends of the triangular junctions on the Mains leading to Windsor.

The hoards of porters descending on an Up arrival at Paddington and the taxis conveniently situated between Platforms 8 and 9.

The sliding ventilators that didn't because of years of grime in the grooves.

Smuts flying in through the open ventilator.

Not being able to see out of windows because they were only cleaned when the coach had its annual overhaul.

The dim compartment lights which slowly got brighter as the train accelerated.

The notice at the entrance to the platforms which stated that 'All tickets must be shewn'.

The carriage roof boards which listed faraway places with strange sounding names, like 'Paddington - Swansea - Carmarthen - Pembroke Dock'

Flickering oil lamps and the smell of paraffin. Little yellow pools of light under the platform canopies of a cold winter's evening. Cups of tea being filled at the station buffet by a lady with an enormous two handled tea pot - the cups, about a couple of dozen of them, sat in a rack over a sort of sink so excess tea that slopped over was simply washed away. The tea cups and saucers were green and looked indestructible...except for the chipped ones. My father told me it was just like the NAAFI...

The 'Speak Your Weight' machines on the platforms.

Massive wooden sack barrows with cast iron wheels. One at Reading had 'Islip' carefully painted on it, and its Tare Weight, in curlicue script.

It was a different world. I don't think anybody under the age of 60 or so realises how different it was. The Second World War had finished only five or six years earlier - shortages, grime and hardship of one form or another were normal. Pizzas, takeaways, supermarkets and canned beers were unknown. But outside the railways the world was changing, slowly at first but the pace then quickened - but once on the station or in the train the world was again as it should be.

This is the real reason why Dr. Beeching has such a bad press - he pulled the railways into the modern world and all these known, safe, comforting things were ripped away.

What a beautiful post. Thank you.
 

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The scream of a Landore 'Castle' whistling as it dipped and rolled over the Westbury Line Junction at Reading as it passed at the speed of light on the Up evening 'South Wales Pullman'.

And the thud and crash as the Up Main Home was returned to Danger after it had passed.

The clank of a 61XX pulling in with a down 'residential' from Paddington.

The exciting twist and roll as an Up express at Slough as it passed over the two ends of the triangular junctions on the Mains leading to Windsor.

The hoards of porters descending on an Up arrival at Paddington and the taxis conveniently situated between Platforms 8 and 9.

The sliding ventilators that didn't because of years of grime in the grooves.

Smuts flying in through the open ventilator.

Not being able to see out of windows because they were only cleaned when the coach had its annual overhaul.

The dim compartment lights which slowly got brighter as the train accelerated.

The notice at the entrance to the platforms which stated that 'All tickets must be shewn'.

The carriage roof boards which listed faraway places with strange sounding names, like 'Paddington - Swansea - Carmarthen - Pembroke Dock'

Flickering oil lamps and the smell of paraffin. Little yellow pools of light under the platform canopies of a cold winter's evening. Cups of tea being filled at the station buffet by a lady with an enormous two handled tea pot - the cups, about a couple of dozen of them, sat in a rack over a sort of sink so excess tea that slopped over was simply washed away. The tea cups and saucers were green and looked indestructible...except for the chipped ones. My father told me it was just like the NAAFI...

The 'Speak Your Weight' machines on the platforms.

Massive wooden sack barrows with cast iron wheels. One at Reading had 'Islip' carefully painted on it, and its Tare Weight, in curlicue script.

It was a different world. I don't think anybody under the age of 60 or so realises how different it was. The Second World War had finished only five or six years earlier - shortages, grime and hardship of one form or another were normal. Pizzas, takeaways, supermarkets and canned beers were unknown. But outside the railways the world was changing, slowly at first but the pace then quickened - but once on the station or in the train the world was again as it should be.

This is the real reason why Dr. Beeching has such a bad press - he pulled the railways into the modern world and all these known, safe, comforting things were ripped away.

I feel like I've taken a trip back in time with you even though tthis is far before my time... +1 great post
 

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The scream of a Landore 'Castle' whistling as it dipped and rolled over the Westbury Line Junction at Reading as it passed at the speed of light on the Up evening 'South Wales Pullman'.

And the thud and crash as the Up Main Home was returned to Danger after it had passed.

The clank of a 61XX pulling in with a down 'residential' from Paddington.

The exciting twist and roll as an Up express at Slough as it passed over the two ends of the triangular junctions on the Mains leading to Windsor.

The hoards of porters descending on an Up arrival at Paddington and the taxis conveniently situated between Platforms 8 and 9.

The sliding ventilators that didn't because of years of grime in the grooves.

Smuts flying in through the open ventilator.

Not being able to see out of windows because they were only cleaned when the coach had its annual overhaul.

The dim compartment lights which slowly got brighter as the train accelerated.

The notice at the entrance to the platforms which stated that 'All tickets must be shewn'.

The carriage roof boards which listed faraway places with strange sounding names, like 'Paddington - Swansea - Carmarthen - Pembroke Dock'

Flickering oil lamps and the smell of paraffin. Little yellow pools of light under the platform canopies of a cold winter's evening. Cups of tea being filled at the station buffet by a lady with an enormous two handled tea pot - the cups, about a couple of dozen of them, sat in a rack over a sort of sink so excess tea that slopped over was simply washed away. The tea cups and saucers were green and looked indestructible...except for the chipped ones. My father told me it was just like the NAAFI...

The 'Speak Your Weight' machines on the platforms.

Massive wooden sack barrows with cast iron wheels. One at Reading had 'Islip' carefully painted on it, and its Tare Weight, in curlicue script.

It was a different world. I don't think anybody under the age of 60 or so realises how different it was. The Second World War had finished only five or six years earlier - shortages, grime and hardship of one form or another were normal. Pizzas, takeaways, supermarkets and canned beers were unknown. But outside the railways the world was changing, slowly at first but the pace then quickened - but once on the station or in the train the world was again as it should be.

This is the real reason why Dr. Beeching has such a bad press - he pulled the railways into the modern world and all these known, safe, comforting things were ripped away.

Outstanding.
 

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The same green British Rail crockery everywhere. Actually quite nice stuff, practical and well designed. Marked as Vitrified Tableware by Dudson Brothers. Sleeping cars had racks of it in the attendant's compartment where it would vibrate throughout the night with a pleasant chinking sound.
 

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Not sure what's already been said as I've only skimmed the post.

Red star parcels
Those massive cookies in the buffet car
Brutes
plastic cups for hot drinks from the buffet
DMU formations that could have about 4 different class of unit in one set!
Getting your hands filthy by just opening a train door
sitting behind the driver on a DMU
Uniform hats!
Just generally dirty and run down everywhere
Microwaved cheeseburgers
Avoiding coach B ��
Sports and Aptis
 
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MK1 sleepers which had ...

A hidden potty

Bottled drinking water , small size "Nestle" - so incredibly rare

Padded shelf to put your watch on.

Ashtrays !!!!!
 

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Adhesive paper labels indicating First Class accommodation which had been declassified on loco-hauled trains. The labels were worded along the lines of "For the use of holders of Second Class tickets", diplomatically avoiding any reference to "Second Class passengers".

Particularly memorable from the era of Class 40s and Mk1 stock on the Manchester Victoria/North Wales trains - it was always worth a careful look for these labels in the FK or CK carriages in the formation. I had several very satisfactory trips home from hiking holidays in Snowdonia with exclusive use of a declassified First Class compartment for me, my mate and our rucksacks (neither of us having had a bath or shower for a week).
 
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Adhesive paper labels indicating First Class accommodation which had been declassified on loco-hauled trains. The labels were worded along the lines of "For the use of holders of Second Class tickets", diplomatically avoiding any reference to "Second Class passengers".

Particularly memorable from the era of Class 40s and Mk1 stock on the Manchester Victoria/North Wales trains - it was always worth a careful look for these labels in the FK or CK carriages in the formation. I had several very satisfactory trips home from hiking holidays in Snowdonia with exclusive use of a declassified First Class compartment for me, my mate and our rucksacks (neither of us having had a bath or shower for a week).

These labels could of course be 'harvested' for use on future journeys!
 

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Not sure what's already been said as I've only skimmed the post.

Red star parcels
Those massive cookies in the buffet car
Brutes
plastic cups for hot drinks from the buffet
DMU formations that could have about 4 different class of unit in one set!
Getting your hands filthy by just opening a train door
sitting behind the driver on a DMU
Uniform hats!
Just generally dirty and run down everywhere
Microwaved cheeseburgers
Avoiding coach B ��
Sports and Aptis

Oh those microwaved cheeseburgers I ate on the WCML, done in an industrial microwave too, 1 min to cook, 10 mins to cool down.
 

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Loads when you start thinking about it. I'm not especially nostalgic and some of the below may still exist, but these conjure up images of my school days.

Staffed stations from first train until the last train.
First class on DMUs.
Little metal cube ashtrays fixed underneath the windows.
Sliding windows with the open as far as here for adequate ventilation stickers.
NCR51 tickets.
Massive analogue platform clocks.
Red Star parcels offices and brake vans being filled to bursting with parcels of all sorts and sizes.
No easy means of knowing where the trains were!
Black perspex sliding panels for the Next Train boards, that had to be pieced together by the railman.
Local station announcements.
Ticket nippers of inordinate variation and Dormy stampers.
Bells being rung to signal the preparation for departure and closing off the platform end gates.
Used Ticket collection boxes.
Separate waiting rooms for Ladies.
SR route code blinds.
Glimpses of unusual destinations/stations on Solari boards.
Odd panels that didn't work properly on Solari boards.
Internal mail system/post boxes.
Guards that used to work InterCity and local services on one trip.
Royal Mail staff busying themselves preparing and unloading the early evening mail trains.
Ad hoc light loco movements between depots.
Summer Saturday services with intense loadings and non-standard origin and destinations (Rose Grove-Newquay springs to mind).
Locos running round with shunter and driver leaning out of their respective cabs.
 
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