Derailment at Wimbledon 6/11/17

[physics34]

1 person injured, 1 carriage derailed ... no further info at the mo.

 

[Lrd]

Seems to be in the East Putney area

 

[Lrd]

Here's a picture of the derailed train. Looks like a 450

https://twitter.com/TheaEsme/status/927434580285624320

 

[randompixel]

It's a 450 on the crossover from East Putney just outside Wimbledon. Lots of fire trucks, ambulances and emergency response units in the Waitrose by the track. First unit well off the rails almost over to parallel track, beached on the gravel.

Looked like they were preparing a passenger evacuation.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Which signalbox/panel would control the points and signals at that part of Wimbledon?

 

[Dstock7080]

Reporting number 2L10 I believe. 450 025 being rear unit.

Wimbledon SCC for movements in this area.

No District Line services Parsons Green-Wimbledon. One District train stuck in Wimbledon pfm.1 and pfm.4 , another at East Putney DOWN and one at Putney Bridge WB.

 

[gwr4090]

BBC report last axle only of eight coach train derailed. 04:54 ex Basingstoke

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41883153

 

[QueensCurve]

...beached on the gravel.

Ballast?

 

[paddington]

BBC report last axle only of eight coach train derailed. 04:54 ex Basingstoke

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41883153

...and still confused about the current name of the TOC.

 

[Darandio]

...and still confused about the current name of the TOC.

Is it any wonder that anyone could be confused? Considering much of the fleet is trundling around displaying a "South West Trains" logo.

 

[bb21]

Rear axle of 2L10 derailed just off the mainline. Guard is the one injured. Poor sod thoughts go out to him.

300 pax had to be evacuated.

 

[gavin]

British Transport Police (BTP) warned of "significant disruption", tweeting: "Officers are attending a low-speed partial derailment of a train in the Wimbledon area. One person sustained minor injuries." The Rail Accident Investigation Branch said a team of its inspectors had gone to Wimbledon start gathering evidence on site. London Ambulance Service said there were four minor injuries, but no-one needed to go to hospital.

The Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union said the incident highlighted the importance of having guards on trains.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41883153

 

[SpacePhoenix]

A picture on the Daily Star website shows it from the other side. It appears that the rear bogie of the reach coach of the train is on the track next door, can't see any points underneath it in the photo

 

[pompeyfan]

These were sent to me by a friend/colleague. Sounds possible the points moved under the unit. There was engineering works there the other day too I believe.

 

[notverydeep]

Another picture. Credit to a passenger (friend of colleague) being evacuated...

Comparing the pictures posted by pompeyfan and Google Maps aeriel photo, the train appears to have come to a stand about 100 metres beyond the junction work.

 

[Bromley boy]

Is it any wonder that anyone could be confused? Considering much of the fleet is trundling around displaying a "South West Trains" logo.

The BBC article shows “South West Railways” in the headline and the correct “South Western Railway” in the body, so even their own confusion is inconsistent.

Not the end of the world, but very irritating. Failing to get basic information right, which is after all available from a 30 second Google search, smacks of laziness.

More importantly, my thoughts go out to the injured guard whose clearly having a very bad day indeed.

 

[pompeyfan]

Does anyone know yet whether the RAIB will do a report or safety digest if anything at all?

 

[talltim]

Are they on (off!) TfL 4th rail track?

 

[Wombat]

This is probably a very silly question but I'll ask it anyway: how is a derailed carriage put back onto the track? I'd speculate (from a position of ignorance) that some sort of heavy-duty jacking apparatus is involved but I don't know how you'd get it in place when the track is blocked by the train in question.

 

[gavin]

This is probably a very silly question but I'll ask it anyway: how is a derailed carriage put back onto the track? I'd speculate (from a position of ignorance) that some sort of heavy-duty jacking apparatus is involved but I don't know how you'd get it in place when the track is blocked by the train in question.

The LFB has a special team who use hydraulic lifts for jobs like this it probably didn't take too long as it appears one or 2 of the wheels were still partially on the track

 

[DarloRich]

This is probably a very silly question but I'll ask it anyway: how is a derailed carriage put back onto the track? I'd speculate (from a position of ignorance) that some sort of heavy-duty jacking apparatus is involved but I don't know how you'd get it in place when the track is blocked by the train in question.

Call the breakdown team, they will jack the carriage back on to the track using some hydraulic jacks. A crane could be called for more serious incidents.

The LFB has a special team who use hydraulic lifts for jobs like this it probably didn't take too long as it appears one or 2 of the wheels were still partially on the track

It wont be the fire brigade doing the job.

 

[rebmcr]

This is probably a very silly question but I'll ask it anyway: how is a derailed carriage put back onto the track? I'd speculate (from a position of ignorance) that some sort of heavy-duty jacking apparatus is involved but I don't know how you'd get it in place when the track is blocked by the train in question.

A set of human-portable inflatable jacks are carried into position and controlled in tandem. The system does a better job of it than a rail-mounted crane can.

 

[Wombat]

Interesting, thank you!

 

[QueensCurve]

A picture on the Daily Star website shows it from the other side. It appears that the rear bogie of the reach coach of the train is on the track next door, can't see any points underneath it in the photo

The picture is below, the article is at https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...s-South-Western-London-District-Line-Waterloo

 

[Mojo]

Did the derailment happen on LU or NR infrastructure?

 

[wls1]

Did the derailment happen on LU or NR infrastructure?

East Putney branch is NR controlled as far as im aware

 

[Mojo]

East Putney branch is NR controlled as far as im aware

Signalling and power is controlled/supplied by Network Rail however the branch is owned by London Underground (sold on 1 April 1994), up until the platforms at Wimbledon and part way over the crossovers from the mainline/depot.

 

[Deepgreen]

Was this one of the few dead early workings rostered to run via East Putney?

 

[Deepgreen]

A picture on the Daily Star website shows it from the other side. It appears that the rear bogie of the reach coach of the train is on the track next door, can't see any points underneath it in the photo

The points appear to be slightly in rear of the train, which would be consistent with a low speed derailment, the train presumably not stopping dead, but travelling a further few metres.

 

[Sunset route]

Unless there is a bogie or wheel fault, the it looks like the train either derailed as passed over 738 points or the following fixed diamond, I’m personally going with the fixed diamond.