Train Cleaner Job Offer, now asked for DBS check

[L1234]

I just got a job as a train cleaner at depot I can move up to be a train driver, I got offered the job and have had my ID picture taken got the uniform and passed the induction test.

I've worked on track maintenance and did not get DBS checked. Just when I was about to leave manager said bring in IDs etc so we can check records proof of address and if you're allowed to work.

Instantly my heart sank yet another good job I cant have due to mistakes in the past.

The convictions are cultivation of cannabis, possession of cannabis, abstract of electricity and attempted burglary. I did a 8 month custodial and it will be spent in 2020. Is there any point me going back.

 

[EastMidsMatt]

It must be frustrating but you must be honest from the start. Did you get asked about convictions when you applied for the job? Don't give up, be truthful and hope for the best. After 2020 you will be able to apply for jobs with no obligation to disclose your convictions.

 

[L1234]

They didn't at the time only when I passed interview got the uniform and gave me ID so its more disappointing

 

[EastMidsMatt]

Did they actually say a crb check will be done? Have you signed the contract? A crb would have been something that you would have been made aware of when applying for the role.
I can't imagine they would employ someone and THEN do a crb check, that makes no sense.

 

[MattK]

I agree with MattVick. They must check you have the legal right to work in the UK by law. So they need to see your documentation. It doesn't mean they will do a CRB/DBS check on you.

 

[L1234]

Thats what happened though I signed all the induction papers got my picture taken job offer then today at end said it

 

[L1234]

They asked me for 2 photo id and proof of address and to check if i have any convictions. I have been offered the job already which is why its annoying as i thought CRB are done before hand and there was no mention of CRB at interview a few weeks ago only today

 

[Saracen_83]

Was it on your original application form? Or any documents where you was asked the question if you had any caution convictions or bind overs that are not considered spent?

 

[Darandio]

Was it on your original application form?

I'd be staggered if it wasn't.

 

[L1234]

I got called by agency saying there is a job interview tomorrow do i want to go i accepted and went, got the job same day, waited two weeks to start. I work for agency 6 months and then hired by Govia. I wasnt told there would be a CRB. I either go tomorrow and tell them or dont bother.

 

[L1234]

There was no application just CV i applied for job and got job next day. I was shown around the depot station given uniform sizes ID taken signatures on all the induction packs, then at end ask me for documentation.

 

[baz962]

There was no application just CV i applied for job and got job next day. I was shown around the depot station given uniform sizes ID taken signatures on all the induction packs, then at end ask me for documentation.

Not much you can do then mate, I would go and see, nothing to lose and all to gain, you never know, and whatever happens do not get down about it, go back to what you were doing ( the legal stuff) work away and come back strong in 2020, only two year's mate, there are many on here that take year's to get a role.

 

[Tom Quinne]

Jesus in for a penny, in for a pound alright !

A mistake yes go back, susitained life balls ups....

Hate to sound like a knob but there are people out there who haven’t commited sustained transgressions of the law, they deserve the job more than you im afraid - your actions have consequences, your reaping the seeds you’ve sown im afraid (no punt intended).

 

[L1234]

no one deserves the job more than me trust me. thank you for the advice ill go and see what happens.

 

[Tom Quinne]

You think...

Best of luck either way, declare or you’ll be sacked - convictions for those offences, plus a dismissal for not declaring will screw you even more.

 

[Teddyward]

You’d be surprised how much of the population has a criminal record. Even if you just go court for a minor motoring offence and get found guilty it’s declarable as a conviction for a period of time. Just be honest straight away when you go next. Best of luck.

 

[Saracen_83]

Jesus in for a penny, in for a pound alright !

A mistake yes go back, susitained life balls ups....

Hate to sound like a knob but there are people out there who haven’t commited sustained transgressions of the law, they deserve the job more than you im afraid - your actions have consequences, your reaping the seeds you’ve sown im afraid (no punt intended).

Sorry but I have to disagree,

If he has turned over a new leaf, and trying to change his life, then yes he deserves it, and deserves it as much as the next person.

Very shortsighted opinion in my eyes and I hope that if/when you make a mistake, there are people who are willing to help and forgive you rather than hang you out to dry

 

[Tom Quinne]

Maybe I’m not as liberal as some, maybe seeing the mess Class B drugs do to people lives makes me less forgiving.

 

[L1234]

Everyone has had different lives but i dont no where your coming from so ill respect what you think. Ill go in tomorrow tell them what happened as I got the job out of 6 people got 15/15 on the test and have experience as a Trackman for 1 year which helped me get the job. The manager seems to like me so hopefully it will go well ill post what happens. Ive been consistent trying to get a career but after a lot of knock backs at 24 I might leave it but we shall see.

 

[Tom Quinne]

Like I say best of luck, it’s good you have seen the error of your previous actions - however to openly admit and believe you deserve it more than someone who hasn’t contributed (knowingly or otherwise) to other people’s self destruction is somewhat wrong (in my completely irrelevant opinion).

 

[EastMidsMatt]

Maybe I’m not as liberal as some, maybe seeing the mess Class B drugs do to people lives makes me less forgiving.

I would suggest that the only difference between this chap and rest of us is he got caught. I'm pretty sure most of us have broken the law at least once so let's not judge too harshly eh?

Good luck tomorrow and don't be too surprised if they let you go.

Only 2 years to go before the convictions are spent and then no one needs to know.

 

[KMCM]

Everyone has had different lives but i dont no where your coming from so ill respect what you think. Ill go in tomorrow tell them what happened as I got the job out of 6 people got 15/15 on the test and have experience as a Trackman for 1 year which helped me get the job. The manager seems to like me so hopefully it will go well ill post what happens. Ive been consistent trying to get a career but after a lot of knock backs at 24 I might leave it but we shall see.

It's going to be difficult but I would tell them first thing. If not, you'll be worrying all the time if and when they may find out and that'll be the end of a career in the railway full stop. We all make mistakes mate and I really hope that they take that into consideration but the chances are as you know they'll withdraw the offer. Best of luck

 

[gazthomas]

It’s easy to judge and it seems you’re focussed on the right side of the law now. Good luck tomorrow and remember to change your username on this site!

 

[L1234]

Yeah thanks didnt bother going no point.

 

[Saracen_83]

Y not???? I would’ve gone, all they could say was no, possibly yes!!

As someone said above, nothing to lose, everything to gain

 

[ComUtoR]

Yeah thanks didnt bother going no point.

You are now absent. That is frowned upon, especially when you fail to report in.

I have found that the railway tends not to care about your past. What they do care about is honesty. Not declaring your past conviction is far more serious than what happened. The DBS/CRB check is effectively an honesty check so employers are protected against applicants and protects their employees and any member of the public. I suggest you read this : Rehabilitation of Offenders Act ( https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/53 )That protects you as an 'Offender. Any prospective employer cannot discriminate against you (caveats apply)

If you are changing your life around then you need to take action and deal with situations like this rather than hide and run.

 

[sw1ller]

Yeah thanks didnt bother going no point.

Ahh, I’m really disappointed in this. I was hoping you’d go in, explain everything and possibly be rewarded for your honesty. Now you’ll never know. And I doubt you’ll be given the opportunity again. I’d ring the manager up now and explain your situation. Noting to lose now.

 

[Juliet Barvo]

Yeah thanks didnt bother going no point.

Dude, nothing ventured nothing gained. Terrible decision. Opportunity given away.

 

[baz962]

Dude, nothing ventured nothing gained. Terrible decision. Opportunity given away.

Earlier up the post i said the op should go, nothing to lose and everything to wait. The op may have a past, but i firmly commend any effort to change and improve, and fully support that. Now after advice from several on here, to say did not go, no point, did not bother, that shows a poor attitude to the potential employer, and to all that tried to encourage on here, and until that changes the op will not progress much less deserves to.

 

[baz962]

Earlier up the post i said the op should go, nothing to lose and everything to wait. The op may have a past, but i firmly commend any effort to change and improve, and fully support that. Now after advice from several on here, to say did not go, no point, did not bother, that shows a poor attitude to the potential employer, and to all that tried to encourage on here, and until that changes the op will not progress much less deserves to.

Gain not wait.