Bromley boy
Established Member
- Joined
- 18 Jun 2015
- Messages
- 4,611
The NHS enjoys an unhealthily privileged political position where it’s untouchable and verboten to discuss its failings.
Indeed. As we are seeing on this very thread!
I am very keen to challenge and fix waste an inefficiency however more money would fix things like a shortage of Doctors and nurses. It is interesting you cant concede that point. I doubt money is wasted in employing health care professionals.
I’ve said I have no problem with the NHS budget continuing to increase but it’s clear that waste has become extreme and needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency. Ever more money can never be a solution to a system that has become a bottomless pit.
More money should firstly come from saving the hundreds of millions they’re already being given and are wasting. Instead of paying £1500 for a pot of £3 ointment and wasting cash on defunct IT systems more competent management could get a grip of those issues and use the money saved to employ more doctors and nurses.
And while the NHS budget may be protected ( i disagree) other budgets have been slashed forcing the NHS to pick up the slack nor does the NHS budget increase as much as needed year on year. Government policy is directly in whole or part responsible for the problems in the NHS.
The issues with the NHS are fundamental and date back back years. Incompetent procurement and wasteful management are as much to blame as government policy (both labour and conservative governments).
the problem is that the first change starts the slide to an insurance based system.
You’re completely overreacting.
Nobody on here is asking for an insurance based approach. They’re just making perfectly valid criticisms of the existing system, which is clearly failing.
perhaps if they paid tax like we have to we might be able to afford better service and I would be less suspicious about their motives to "reform" the NHS.
This has nothing to do with the issues in the NHS. Incompetent procurement and wasteful management are more to blame than mythical tax-avoiding-Tory-banker-pinstriped-bogeymen...
So only your bad experiences of any evidential value but my good experience on what was the worse day of my life so far is worthless. What a roaster.
With the greatest of respect you shouldn’t go down that road when it’s quite clear that other posters have had the worst days of their lives made even worse (or even created in the first place) by the failings of the NHS.
Your own experience sounds dreadful, and is no less valid, but it certainly doesn’t nullify theirs. It also doesn’t cancel out some of the worst healthcare outcomes in the developed world.
I am off for a cup of tea and a clam down.
Probably for the best old chap.
For god’s sake go and have and have a lie down. You appear to have put your “Mr Irrationally Grumpy” hat on today.