Football

[greyman42]

I totally agree with your last couple of sentences but it's not the way the game is anymore. Goalkeepers are expected to be as comfortable in possession as the most skilful of playmakers these days. I strongly disagree with this method of coaching as goalkeeping is a specialist position in itself which requires a lot of work to perfect without adding the extra workload of acting as an outfield player when your team is in possession. A goalkeeper is there to stop the ball going in the net, simple as that really.

The reason Man City got rid of Joe Hart was because of his distribution. Simply stopping the ball going in the net was not enough.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

The reason Man City got rid of Joe Hart was because of his distribution. Simply stopping the ball going in the net was not enough.

Surely the reason they got rid is because the man spent years as a walking calamity and is vastly inferior to both Ederson and Bravo?

 

[greyman42]

Surely the reason they got rid is because the man spent years as a walking calamity and is vastly inferior to both Ederson and Bravo?

He was hardly a walking calamity. He was established as England's first choice keeper for a considerable period of time.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Evo Stik League Premier Division

Nantwich Town 1 ... Hyde United 1

In this Tuesday night match, a better performance by Hyde, away to a Nantwich side unbeaten at home in the four matches played there this season.

 

[DarloRich]

Jason St Juste, formerly of Halifax Town & Bradford, and last heard of at Ossett Town before their amalgamation with Ossett Albion, also played for St Kitts & Nevis. But I cannot recall any of 'Satnav's many clubs asking for a postponement.

Jason St Juste - once of Darlo. Played well for us in league 2. Looked a decent prospect.

Other Bradford players to make international appearances while at the reformed club include Amjad Iqbal and Adnan Ahmed (Pakistan) and Derek O'Connor (Ireland U21s). Paddy Kenny also started his career at Bradford before moving on and becoming a full Ireland international. Indeed the club was apparently cheated out of a sell-on fee by the way Bury and Sheffield United structured his subsequent transfer.

We currently have Reece Styche away on International duty with Gibraltar.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I find no logic whatsoever in this, as teams in the National League North and the Premiership are about as far removed as possible in both their ground capacity and number of supporters as you could hope to get.

Incidentally, FC United of Manchester lie at the bottom of their league whereas Manchester City are near to the top echelons of their league.

It seems fairly obvious to me: FCUM supporters are essentially a sub-set of Manchester United supporters. The two sets of fans coming together at Manchester Victoria before or after a game would have potential to flare up if the "banter" gets out of hand. It's a shame such things have to be considered, and it's almost certainly an over-reaction... but the thinking behind it is obvious.

The most threatened I've felt around football fans related to a game not involving my team, was on a train down The Marches when Chester were playing away at Wrexham: both were in the division I can't stop calling "The Conference".

 

[Journeyman]

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

 

[greyman42]

It seems fairly obvious to me: FCUM supporters are essentially a sub-set of Manchester United supporters. The two sets of fans coming together at Manchester Victoria before or after a game would have potential to flare up if the "banter" gets out of hand. It's a shame such things have to be considered, and it's almost certainly an over-reaction... but the thinking behind it is obvious

If the police can manage the Manchester derby and Manchester/ Merseyside matches, surely they can manage this game? I appreciate a lot more officers are on duty for the afore mentioned.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

He was hardly a walking calamity. He was established as England's first choice keeper for a considerable period of time.

A position for which he, and many before him, had very little competition, until two much better keepers came along (Pickford and Butland), then look what happened. He had a very good defence in front of him at City and England, yet when he went to Torino and West Ham? Hmm. Same with Valdes at Middlesbrough.

I appreciate his confidence has been shot at, but that still can't excuse the subpar few years he has had of late. I remember when he acted like a total prat against Italy in the Euro 2012 shootout and promptly got had. Fantastic stuff.

 

[DarloRich]

I find no logic whatsoever in this, as teams in the National League North and the Premiership are about as far removed as possible in both their ground capacity and number of supporters as you could hope to get.

Incidentally, FC United of Manchester lie at the bottom of their league whereas Manchester City are near to the top echelons of their league.

If the police can manage the Manchester derby and Manchester/ Merseyside matches, surely they can manage this game? I appreciate a lot more officers are on duty for the afore mentioned.

Surely the issue is that the FCUM fans are from the alienated, old school, "hard core" Manure fans. They are potentially going to have a rumble with old school "hard core" Citeh fans who haven't, yet, been entirely alienated form their club

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Surely the issue is that the FCUM fans are from the alienated, old school, "hard core" Manure fans. They are potentially going to have a rumble with old school "hard core" Citeh fans who haven't, yet, been entirely alienated form their club

Looking at the fixtures of FC United of Manchester and the locations of the away games that they play, is there much likelihood of the very low number of the supporters that they have ever being in the same railway station where the vastly more numerical number of Manchester City supporters are likely to be?

 

[DarloRich]

Looking at the fixtures of FC United of Manchester and the locations of the away games that they play, is there much likelihood of the very low number of the supporters that they have ever being in the same railway station where the vastly more numerical number of Manchester City supporters are likely to be?

it isnt the normal's like you and me the fuzz are worried about. It is the 20/30 nutters who will arrange to meet up for a ruck.

 

[fowler9]

The reason Man City got rid of Joe Hart was because of his distribution. Simply stopping the ball going in the net was not enough.

Indeed. There are and have been some great shot stoppers over time who have been amazing at giving the ball back to the opposition so they can have another go. At the end of the day I would be surprised if Allison struggles with trying not to do Cruyff Turns by his own goal. It's hardly one of the basics he is getting wrong.

 

[greyman42]

Indeed. There are and have been some great shot stoppers over time who have been amazing at giving the ball back to the opposition so they can have another go. At the end of the day I would be surprised if Allison struggles with trying not to do Cruyff Turns by his own goal. It's hardly one of the basics he is getting wrong.

Apart from the Cruyff turn which I think will be a one off, Allison has been solid in goal and his passing out from the back has been akin to Gerrards.

 

[Macca89]

Apart from the Cruyff turn which I think will be a one off, Allison has been solid in goal and his passing out from the back has been akin to Gerrards.

Agreed

Its early days, only 4 games in, so I can't exactly say he's been majorly tested, but what he's faced thus far he's been excellent

Confident, calm, composed, his distribution is jaw dropping, he's a better passer than most of our outfield players!!! pings it about effortlessly.

He's also making things look rather easy with his positioning, which is something that straight away stands out from Migs and Karius, Alisson's positioning actually makes tricky situations look kind of easy for him.

Even after the cringey Cruyff turn, he kept it simple after than and didn't lose confidence

 

[familyguy99]

England v Wales at Boundary Park today.

Oldham 0-1 Newport

Oldham lost for second time this season after Newport pick up all three points and go joint top of League two table. I feel Newport could be dark horse this season and be surprise package in League two.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I see Fort William lost again, 1-4 at home to Keith this time. Notable that Keith have a player named Keith, who scored twice.

In the FA Cup a couple of impressive results with Knaresborough beating Kendal by 7 goals to 3, and Taunton Town also hitting 7 at home against Bemerton (who???).

 

[yorkie]

Apparently a goalkeeper can win a foul simply by dropping a football on an opposition player's head:

(video shows the disallowed goal in the England vs Spain fixture)

 

[Oscar46016]

Perhaps the free kick was for the push on the Spanish defender ?

 

[AlterEgo]

What push? It would have been soft to give a push on the defender. Wel beck didn’t use his arms.

 

[The_Train]

There was clearly no foul and a poor decision has cost us a point.

Just out of interest is this Nations League competition one to be taken seriously by any of the better nations in the world?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

People should realise that each international football tournament is different from any previous one, but I notice that the ITV TV visual introduction last night was a resume of xenophobic images of the last competition that England competed in. Perhaps a first match against a team such as Spain in the current competition was just what was needed to evaluate matters.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Just out of interest is this Nations League competition one to be taken seriously by any of the better nations in the world?

If they won their opening game: Yes, it's a great new competition instead of meaningless friendlies.
If they lost that game: It's pointless, a Mickey Mouse tournament offering nothing more than the old friendlies but with a load extra marketing bumph.

 

[The_Train]

If they won their opening game: Yes, it's a great new competition instead of meaningless friendlies.
If they lost that game: It's pointless, a Mickey Mouse tournament offering nothing more than the old friendlies but with a load extra marketing bumph.

Haha reminds me of when we won Tournoi de France in 1997. It was a bigger competition than the world cup then

 

[Oscar46016]

Welbeck had to
Push the defenders out of the way to get anywhere near degea

 

[AlterEgo]

Welbeck had to
Push the defenders out of the way to get anywhere near degea

Welbeck doesn’t commit any sort of push.

Put it this way, for what Welbeck did to the defender, would you expect a penalty given had it been the other way? No.

 

[greyman42]

There was clearly no foul and a poor decision has cost us a point.

Just out of interest is this Nations League competition one to be taken seriously by any of the better nations in the world?

Spain and their manager seemed very pleased at the end of last nights game so I would say the answer is yes.

 

[Groningen]

You must hate that dutch referee?

 

[DarloRich]

Darlington 3 v Telford 0 - no idea where that came from. Telford unbeaten before this match. Darlo poor. Funny old game.

 

[Drogba11CFC]

Winchester City 2...Frome Town 1 aet (Mitford 25, Cocklin 108, Barron m/pen 34; Simpson 23, Allen m/pen 80, Scott s/o 120)

This match really did have everything: Two missed penalties, extra time, and even a ten minute stoppage due to floodlight failure. In the end, Winchester defeated their higher league opposition to earn a trip to Merthyr in the next round.