Who poisoned the Skripals?

[Basher]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

 

[muz379]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

And of the innocent women killed by the discarded container of nerve agent ?

Sorry but not matter how deplorable you might think being a traitor to your own country is , revenge attacks which risk death and serious injury to citizens of another country are never justifiable .

 

[EM2]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril.

Hang on a minute.
Skripal was arrested, tried, and sentenced to thirteen years in prison for his espionage activities.
It was the Russians that decided to release him, and exchange him and nine others for their own sleeper agents that had been arrested in the USA.
So, if what he did was such a terrible act against Mother Russia, why would they release him AND not only let him come to the UK, but actually abet him to do do?

 

[Basher]

And of the innocent women killed by the discarded container of nerve agent ?

Sorry but not matter how deplorable you might think being a traitor to your own country is , revenge attacks which risk death and serious injury to citizens of another country are never justifiable .

Yes it was sad, the job was bungled by Russia. I did not disagree with Skripals motive for betraying Russia, but was very stupid for his daughter to go and visit him .

 

[Basher]

Skripal was worth 9 others. Russia knows the west would not look to takeout the 9.

 

[EM2]

Skripal was worth 9 others. Russia knows the west would not look to takeout the 9.

No he wasn't. Ten Russian agents (the most well-known probably being Anna Chapman) arrested abroad were exchanged for ten Russians arrested for spying for other countries (Skripal and nine others).

 

[Darandio]

Any comment form Corbyn or his clown army of fan boys? Just admit you were wrong.

Not that i've noticed. Who was wrong? I've maintained it was the Russians from minute one.

 

[Iskra]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

How can you criticise someone for betraying a regime that is corrupt, murders its opponents, shoots down civilian airliners, invades other countries and doesn't have freedom of the press or speech?

I think that's called 'seeing sense'.

Let me ask you this; who has betrayed their country more Putin or Skripal? If that's the kind of place you like I think you'd like living under the 'ISIS lot'.

 

[DarloRich]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

perhaps come back when you have had a chance to develop a more mature and rational stance.

Not that i've noticed. Who was wrong? I've maintained it was the Russians from minute one.

Not aimed at you.

 

[Cowley]

You are coming across as a lunatic.

How can you criticise someone for betraying a regime that is corrupt, murders its opponents, shoots down civilian airliners, invades other countries and doesn't have freedom of the press or speech? I think that's called 'seeing sense'. Let me ask you this; who has betrayed their country more Putin or Skripal? If that's the kind of place you like I think you'd like living under the 'ISIS lot'.

Damn you and your rational arguments Iskra.
It’s surely best that we all join in with the silly season and convince ourselves that what’s staring ourselves in the face is so obvious that it must be a conspiracy.
Your logic is making me feel like a prat! Please stop.

 

[yorkie]

A point of view on this matter.

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

What a bizarre post. People who stand up for the right thing in against corrupt regimes like Russia should not be "deplored".

 

[LOL The Irony]

What a bizarre post. People who stand up for the right thing in against corrupt regimes like Russia should not be "deplored".

He's still a traitor to some - including the Russians. Russia has a very diferent culture to us. Traitors are seen as enemies of the Motherland there. If this was Rail Forums RUS, we would be having a very different conversation right now.

 

[Cowley]

He's still a traitor to some - including the Russians. Russia has a very diferent culture to us. Traitors are seen as enemies of the Motherland there. If this was Rail Forums RUS, we would be having a very different conversation right now.

God. Do you think there is a Russian version?
I think the Mods are great....

 

[Cowley]

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[LOL The Irony]

God. Do you think there is a Russian version?
I think the Mods are great....

If there isn't we can always dream...

 

[DarloRich]

Still think it wasn't the Russians? All a conspiracy of course........................

Russian spy poisoning: Woman 'identifies' suspect as Anatoliy Chepiga

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45694123

 

[TheEdge]

Still think it wasn't the Russians? All a conspiracy of course........................

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45694123

The tourist who somehow just happens to share his name with and have a striking resemblance to a GRU Colonel.

 

[DarloRich]

The tourist who somehow just happens to share his name with and have a striking resemblance to a GRU Colonel.

All a coincidence/Mossad false flag. Perhaps after Brexit we could sell tours of the famous UK cathedrals to Russians who just happen to be Army Intelligence officers personally honoured by the President of Russia...............

 

[EM2]

If this was Rail Forums RUS, we would be having a very different conversation right now.

On RailFourmsUK, you read forums.
On RailForumsRUS, forums read you!

 

[WessexEclectic]

Skripal was a traitor to his country, you may not agree with that, whatever his motive was. To betray your country is in my view an absolute deplorable act. Putin has sent a message out betray Russia at your peril. What about philby burgess and maclean , in my view we should have taken them out. What about these ISIS lot who were killing our solders, we should hunt them down and !!!.

It is my understanding that when spies are exchanged like Skripal was, there is a gentleman's agreement that their careers are over and they should retire to the garden and look after the grandkids, as it were. Skripal was apparently shopping his knowledge around Foreign intelligence services - for money - which is what it seems Putin took exception to.

There seems to have been little advantage to MI6 going after Philby et al. , particularly near one of the heights of the Cold War as it would have drawn more attention to the incompetence of several (then) still serving MI6 high-ups even if it was successful. Judging by Philby's later life he got his just deserts as they were anyway.

On RailFourmsUK, you read forums.
On RailForumsRUS, forums read you!

Does this mean that SWR should rename the Salisbury - Romsey loop services, the 'Russian Reversals'?!

Some say that Authoritarianism has made a comeback in Putin's Russia.
This is incorrect. It was never permitted to leave in the first place!

 

[pat okeeffe]

According to the police, the two russians who are alleged to have poisoned the Skripals, are believed to have travelled by train from Waterloo to Salisbury and back on sunday 4th March 2018. As Ive taken an interest in this case, lm trying to find out the specific train running times between Waterloo and Salisbury on that day. The data on raildar seems a bit conflicting and I also think that there may have been engineering works that meant there was no direct service.

As this a dedicated rail site, have any forum members got any suggestions where else I could get a definitive list of trains that ran between Waterloo and Salisbury on that day?

 

[LOL The Irony]

According to the police, the two russians who are alleged to have poisoned the Skripals, are believed to have travelled by train from Waterloo to Salisbury and back on sunday 4th March 2018. As Ive taken an interest in this case, lm trying to find out the specific train running times between Waterloo and Salisbury on that day. The data on raildar seems a bit conflicting and I also think that there may have been engineering works that meant there was no direct service.

As this a dedicated rail site, have any forum members got any suggestions where else I could get a definitive list of trains that ran between Waterloo and Salisbury on that day?

This gives me vibes of 7/7 where the Thameslink service the bombers got was supposedly canceled.