Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

[capital12]

It does look a bit like an obese 345!

 

[driver_m]

Once it has clouted a few pigeons and pheasants, it won't have that shiny black front. It'll look more like the top of a pendo cab front. It may well also have the new lights in the same housing. Just presume both will have to be on at the same time in either 'blinding', or 'nuclear reaction' settings.

 

[E_Reeves]

Not sure. He says “The black front will have a yellow decall over it when it renters service. They're upgrading the headlights so that it can have a black front in 2019”.

Ok, so the front should be yellow by the time it comes out or have I misinterpreted what you said?

 

[JordyWM]

A friend has shared. 221101.

I think that looks amazing. Just from that angle makes the train looks so much more modern. I hope the Virgin decal will be gloss rather than matt. Less if definitely more and the black grey and white combo looks so sleek.

 

[E_Reeves]

Ok. So I get that the operators don’t need, and clearly don’t want yellow fronts any more.

But why black?!

What colour would you apply then?

 

[Bletchleyite]

What colour would you apply then?

Just continue the livery round onto the front?

 

[E_Reeves]

Just continue the livery round onto the front?

I think that'd make it look cheap to be honest

 

[Bletchleyite]

I think that'd make it look cheap to be honest

Does the DB ICE look cheap?

 

[E_Reeves]

Does the DB ICE look cheap?

It depends on the train, but I can't see a continued livery on a voyager looking good. Personal preference, I guess

 

[Up_Tilt_390]

Have to admit, I'm quite liking the black front of the Voyager so far. Granted though, it looks a lot something you'd see on TfL Rail, and I feel that even with a bit of Virgin branding it won't be able to escape that comparison. Unless of course it becomes a whole lot redder even.

 

[CosherB]

How about a red front?

 

[pt_mad]

Not sure. He says “The black front will have a yellow decall over it when it renters service. They're upgrading the headlights so that it can have a black front in 2019”.

Does this not say that the black will not be visible by the time the train goes back into service, as a yellow vinyl is going to be placed over the top so the front cab will look yellow just as before?

 

[sufian123]

Does this not say that the black will not be visible by the time the train goes back into service, as a yellow vinyl is going great to be placed over the top so the front can will look yellow just as before?

No. Picture the black paint in Yellow. It will eventually In a year or 2 look like that in service. I just asked him.

 

[EE Andy b1]

No. Picture the black paint in Yellow. It will eventually In a year or 2 look like that in service. I just asked him.

I'm confused and i'll wait and see it for myself.

 

[sufian123]

I'm confused and i'll wait and see it for myself.

Basically this is the final colour. Black is the new yellow.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Then promote it across the network.

LNR have the best one I've seen - it incorporates the wording "First Class" into the stripe in a "bubble" which both uses the standard and emphasizes what it means.

The worst way is to do like the 185s, and put big "First Class" stickers on all doors of the composite car, despite only the centre section actually being first-class. Having your occasional users panic and rush to the next coach like headless chickens isn't going to help those dwell times!

This isn't happening only in the UK. Same thing in Scandinavia, Norwegian and Swedish trains haven't displayed the yellow stripe for years. There's also the tendency to use other definitions than 1st class, it's mostly Comfort vs Regular or Business vs Standard or stuff like that.

Comfort vs Regular??? They're trains, not tampons!

 

[GrimShady]

Are they going to do something about the hideous interiors?

 

[59CosG95]

Comfort vs Regular??? They're trains, not tampons!

Well...I mean...the resemblence of the reliveried Pendolinos to such products IS uncanny

 

[whhistle]

I'm confused and i'll wait and see it for myself.

I don't see what is confusing.

The black front will be the final colour.

For the next X months though, because the headlights are not modern enough, a yellow decal will be applied to the front (presumably over the black) until the lights are converted. Only then will the yellow come off and reveal the black again.

I'll get the text accompanying the photo later.

 

[driver_m]

I can confirm the same thing @EE Andy b1 The lights aren't ready until 2019 so it'll have a yellow patch applied for now. That's off the internal Pravda.

 

[EE Andy b1]

I don't see what is confusing.

The black front will be the final colour.

For the next X months though, because the headlights are not modern enough, a yellow decal will be applied to the front (presumably over the black) until the lights are converted. Only then will the yellow come off and reveal the black again.

I'll get the text accompanying the photo later.

Confusing, have you read some of the posts!
Now we know the lights are Not ready all is clear.

 

[EE Andy b1]

I can confirm the same thing @EE Andy b1 The lights aren't ready until 2019 so it'll have a yellow patch applied for now. That's off the internal Pravda.

Thanks driver_m, I must be getting the mushroom treatment!

 

[507 001]

What colour would you apply then?

As others have said, just continue the livery. Removing the yellow for black just strikes as removing it just because they can. There’s no imagination and it looks, well, silly.

 

[driver_m]

Thanks driver_m, I must be getting the mushroom treatment!

Only way to find stuff out these days is to get someone to look on the internal pravda, otherwise like you say, Mushrooms .

 

[LOL The Irony]

A friend has shared. 221101.

It looks like a new train.

What on Earth is that? Looks like a 345...

I thought the same

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Well...I mean...the resemblence of the reliveried Pendolinos to such products IS uncanny

Ahem...

 

[ValentaFan1974]

Sorry I’m late to the party on this, but when was the mandatory yellow fronts rule canned?

I have to be honest, after seeing yellow fronted trains for the last 43 years of my life, this is going to take a VERY long time to get used to...

 

[route101]

Actually I don't mind the new scheme on the 390s, looks more modern.

Edit by moderator: if anyone wishes to discuss the possibility of a full interior refresh, that discussion has been split to this thread: I wish Virgin Trains would carry out a full interior refresh of Pendolinos

 

[Goldfish62]

Sorry I’m late to the party on this, but when was the mandatory yellow fronts rule canned?

I have to be honest, after seeing yellow fronted trains for the last 43 years of my life, this is going to take a VERY long time to get used to...

December 2015 I think

 

[Peter0124]

390115 seen working 1S90 1730 London Euston to Glasgow Central on Saturday 29th September with new livery.