Gareth Marston
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Sold a Super Off Peak Return Newtown to London Terminals this morning it printed as "Chiltern and Transport for Wales" previously they were CH & ATW
I wonder will those continue now they are not both Arriva TOCs? Mind you LM&XC / LNR&XC routes exist and those have never been under the same parent (except when it was one TOC in CT days - perhaps they originate from then?)
There really is something quite ironic here - the first sighting of a temporary livery is on a Pacer… is it the sign of things to come for the 'world class' Wales and Borders?
Thanks for the additional info. Just out of interest, what else can the system manually be triggered to announce?
Maybe they are referring to the Mobile Multiflex tickets, they are an Arriva Trains Wales product.
They have been very popular since their launch and I believe there will be a similar product available once the new app goes live on the 14th of October.
Also, any bought on the Arriva app will be able to be used up until the 13th January 2019.
The switchover in question is moving from the existing ATW app (which will "keep running until the end of the year") to a new TfW one.transport_wales said:You’ll need to use your Multiflex tickets before the app switchover. We know December can be busy, so we’ll remind you nearer the time.
My guess is that 150's will come back from PRM mods in a new TfW livery, where as we obviously know Pacers won't be getting PRM'd.There really is something quite ironic here - the first sighting of a temporary livery is on a Pacer… is it the sign of things to come for the 'world class' Wales and Borders?
My guess is that 150's will come back from PRM mods in a new TfW livery, where as we obviously know Pacers won't be getting PRM'd.
That said, there's still no sighting of any PRM'd 150's, including of 150285. If we don't see it by end of October, or any other fully PRM'd 150's, what on earth is happening? (If anything)
Maybe, but it'll be interesting to see whether TfW/KA are more honest with passengers about when, or more likely if, the promised 769s are ever going to be arriving to ease the pain whilst PRM mods are ongoing.Are they not doing the 158s first ?
Maybe, but it'll be interesting to see whether TfW/KA are more honest with passengers about when, or more likely if, the promised 769s are ever going to be arriving to ease the pain whilst PRM mods are ongoing.
Don't expect too much, 'cause they rather dropped the ball with this tweet:Maybe, but it'll be interesting to see whether TfW/KA are more honest with passengers about when, or more likely if, the promised 769s are ever going to be arriving to ease the pain whilst PRM mods are ongoing.
By the end of 2019, yes. But I expect most of their audience will have interpreted that as giving the pacers a shelf life of three months.transport_wales said:The pacers? They’ll be gone by 2019!
Yes, and at the moment TfW don't respond to comments left on their tweets either. I expect a lot more spin than honesty in the first few weeks and months.Don't expect too much, 'cause they rather dropped the ball with this tweet:
By the end of 2019, yes. But I expect most of their audience will have interpreted that as giving the pacers a shelf life of three months.
Doesn't seem logical to re programme systems with TfW if its to be discontinued after Oct 13- STAR will let me sell it beyond then anyway. There supreme good value for money fares- 11p per mile to/from London!
Don't expect too much, 'cause they rather dropped the ball with this tweet:
By the end of 2019, yes. But I expect most of their audience will have interpreted that as giving the pacers a shelf life of three months.
Could those fares be kept on and simply reprogrammed as "Route: via High Wycombe"?
How wordy we have become. Years ago the title selected would have been 'Welsh Transport' (in English). Now we have Transport for London instead of London Transport. Ulster Police call themselves something even more long-winded and so it goes on.
How wordy we have become. Years ago the title selected would have been 'Welsh Transport' (in English). Now we have Transport for London instead of London Transport. Ulster Police call themselves something even more long-winded and so it goes on.
How wordy we have become. Years ago the title selected would have been 'Welsh Transport' (in English). Now we have Transport for London instead of London Transport. Ulster Police call themselves something even more long-winded and so it goes on.
There are 9 counties in Ulster, 6 in the North and 3 in the South.How wordy we have become. Years ago the title selected would have been 'Welsh Transport' (in English). Now we have Transport for London instead of London Transport. Ulster Police call themselves something even more long-winded and so it goes on.
And then of course there's (deep breath) Transport for the West Midlands...
The Police Service of Northern Ireland call themselves that because the first suggested name after the Good Friday Agreement was "Northern Ireland Police Service", and soon enough the acronym "NIPS" was considered inappropriate.How wordy we have become. Years ago the title selected would have been 'Welsh Transport' (in English). Now we have Transport for London instead of London Transport. Ulster Police call themselves something even more long-winded and so it goes on.
Then how about a highly appropriate Northern Ireland Constabulary Service? (Nics)?The Police Service of Northern Ireland call themselves that because the first suggested name after the Good Friday Agreement was "Northern Ireland Police Service", and soon enough the acronym "NIPS" was considered inappropriate.
"Royal Ulster Constabulary" was, of course, not going to stay after the peace process.
That would then make them valid on VTWC/WMT/LNWR/XC services (as Mid Wales to High Wycombe routing is valid by BHM INTL as well) and the revenue allocated by ORCATS. The CH & ATW keeps it in-house in Arriva - it looks like Keolis/TfW have done a deal with Chiltern to keep the fares - Chiltern are certainly benefiting financially even if they share with Keolis as its money that Virgin don't get.
Those "CH & ATW" fares are actually valid on some WMT services (eg Crewe-Birmingham), as they come up as options on journey planners.
In an ownership sense it's odd they are not valid on XC, as it is "in the family" as much as is CH (for another 10 days).
I suppose itl be because they dont want people onXC for the busy section between Wolves and OxfordThose "CH & ATW" fares are actually valid on some WMT services (eg Crewe-Birmingham), as they come up as options on journey planners.
In an ownership sense it's odd they are not valid on XC, as it is "in the family" as much as is CH (for another 10 days).