WMTrains livery and station branding

[59CosG95]

On the LNWR side of things, Kings Langley, Apsley, Hemel Hempstead, Berkhamsted and Long Buckby have all been repainted. That means that AFAIK, only Lichfield Trent Valley (and part of Atherstone) are the only stations operated by LNWR that are yet to be repainted.

 

[Chiltern006]

Is 350 371 in the new livery. I have seen no pictures or videos of it around. Reply to this with your sightings

 

[XCTurbostar]

Is 350 371 in the new livery. I have seen no pictures or videos of it around. Reply to this with your sightings

I can confirm that it is. I believe all of the 350/3s are in the new livery. https://flic.kr/p/2dfXrmj

Also, 172002 made its way from Ilford Depot to Tyseley today. Unit is still in unbranded London Overground.

 

[sd0733]

On the LNWR side of things, Kings Langley, Apsley, Hemel Hempstead, Berkhamsted and Long Buckby have all been repainted. That means that AFAIK, only Lichfield Trent Valley (and part of Atherstone) are the only stations operated by LNWR that are yet to be repainted.

Atherstone is now completed and Stone now has West Midlands railway signage.

In a separate note the 110mph capability of 350/2s is live as from 31/12/18 on the entire fleet from a brief we have been given.

 

[59CosG95]

Atherstone is now completed and Stone now has West Midlands railway signage.

In a separate note the 110mph capability of 350/2s is live as from 31/12/18 on the entire fleet from a brief we have been given.

Thanks @sd0733, very interesting developments indeed! Is Stone the first station after Snow Hill to get proper WMR signage?

 

[sd0733]

It's the only

Thanks @sd0733, very interesting developments indeed! Is Stone the first station after Snow Hill to get proper WMR signage?

It's the first one I've seen yes. Spotted an LNR branded station today with full new signage. Polesworth has been done.

 

[59CosG95]

AFAIK the Marston Vale Line and St Albans Abbey Line (inc. the Abbey Line platform at Watford Junction) are still LM branded throughout.

 

[Chiltern006]

It has just been confirmed by LNR on twitter that the 350/1 refurbishment will start in May 19 and end in May 20 and the 350/2 ill resume in May 19

 

[59CosG95]

It has just been confirmed by LNR on twitter that the 350/1 refurbishment will start in May 19 and end in May 20 and the 350/2 ill resume in May 19

Do you have a link to said tweet?

 

[Bletchleyite]

It has just been confirmed by LNR on twitter that the 350/1 refurbishment will start in May 19 and end in May 20 and the 350/2 ill resume in May 19

What work is being done? That seems a long time for just swapping carpets, seat foams and covers. They don't seem to me to need any more than that.

 

[43096]

What work is being done? That seems a long time for just swapping carpets, seat foams and covers. They don't seem to me to need any more than that.

Are they getting an external repaint at the same time? They must be getting close to being due.

 

[Chiltern006]

Do you have a link to said tweet?

Here it is

 

[185]

Fifty LNR 350 sets will be fitted with 22" TV screens for connectional information, the same infoscreens used by Hull Trains.

So guessing that figure is
30 X 350/1s
10 X 350/3s
and assuming they actually arrive
10 X 350/4s from TPE.

Article
https://www.railwaygazette.com/news/technology/single-view/view/improved-passenger-information.html
Text

UK: West Midlands Trains is to equip 50 Siemens Class 350 Desiro EMUs with real-time passenger information systems developed by KeTech and Axion, which will include 22 inch screens. Deployment is planned between May 2019 and May 2020. ‘This new system will be a great improvement on what our customers currently experience and will allow us to communicate changes to services more quickly and clearly, as well as helping people plan their onward journeys’, said David Whitley, Head of Customer Experience at the operator.

 

[E_Reeves]

Here it is

'graced' into the new livery

 

[sd0733]

All 350/2 are now operated at 110mph. Not sure why but they seem to get to 110 much quicker than 1s and 3s, many of the other drivers agree.

 

[Ted172]

It's the first one I've seen yes. Spotted an LNR branded station today with full new signage. Polesworth has been done.

Do you have any photos of the London Northwestern Railway station signage?

 

[sd0733]

Do you have any photos of the London Northwestern Railway station signage?

No, I'll hopefully be on the one that stops at Polesworth one day this week at least so I'll try and get one.

 

[Spirit555]

Both 323215 and 323242 have lost their additional embellishments. Both now in standard "outgoing" livery

HTH

Mark

 

[HLE]

No, I'll hopefully be on the one that stops at Polesworth one day this week at least so I'll try and get one.

Early start for you then! That's a mad job by all accounts.

 

[Spirit555]

172336 has lost it's Christmas embellishments as well. I would say that it's safe to say that 350376 has too.

I also noticed that the green paint brush is out again on the Cross City at Selly Oak

 

[Chiltern006]

If WMR ever re-liveried their sprinters, I think that they would look pretty smart. Also I included a Class 172 from LO in the new livery

 

[samuelmorris]

Are they your designs or has that been announced as an intended livery? They look pretty good but but I'm curious why the 172 is all black in the middle. If anything I think it does actually looks better that way round, but such a marked difference in livery between classes seems unlikely.

 

[sprinterguy]

Are they your designs or has that been announced as an intended livery? They look pretty good but but I'm curious why the 172 is all black in the middle. If anything I think it does actually looks better that way round, but such a marked difference in livery between classes seems unlikely.

It'll be their own designs. The 172/0s will receive the purple and orange scheme and I'd be surprised if the 150s and 153s were reliveried at all (Though this is the railway so I'm always prepared to be surprised).

 

[jonesy3001]

is there any point doing the 150s since they're leaving the franchise soon anyway?

 

[sprinterguy]

is there any point doing the 150s since the leaving the franchise soon anyway?

Precisely.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Are they your designs or has that been announced as an intended livery? They look pretty good but but I'm curious why the 172 is all black in the middle. If anything I think it does actually looks better that way round, but such a marked difference in livery between classes seems unlikely.

Nothing has been announced about the 172/0s. I’d imagine the first we’ll know is when it leaves Tyseley for a press release. The 153 livery is also not PRM compliant because the doors are not a contrasting colour.

 

[59CosG95]

323222 & 323241 have recently been reliveried in the "outgoing" livery. That leaves just 323214 & 323243 to go.

 

[59CosG95]

And on that bombshell:

Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 14/1/19).
Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMR-operated stations between Coventry (exc.) & Wolverhampton (inc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with Network WM or LM signage.
N.B. Wolverhampton also has WMR signs/signage.

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
>Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Chester Road: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Five Ways: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>University: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bournville: Network WM signs, Purple "Cadbury" lampposts
>Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
With the exception of Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway, all WMR-operated stations from Stratford-upon-Avon to Earlswood have LM Signs with old-style GWR lampposts (N.B. not sure about The Lakes); all stations from Wythall to Spring Road have Network WM Signs and the same lampposts.
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts (updated as of 17/1/19)
>The Lakes: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts (AFAIK)
>Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts; depot has orange/grey lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WM signs, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs/signage, orange/purple lampposts
>Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, orange/black/grey lampposts/fences
>The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
>Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Great Malvern: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
All WMR-operated stations between Aston (exc.) & Rugeley Trent Valley (exc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with Network WM or LM signage (Rugeley Town only), with the exception of Witton (still in LM green/black AFAIK).
N.B. AFAIK, Perry Barr & Hamstead still have yellow handrails, and Bloxwich, Bloxwich North & Landywood still have green shelters.

Others
>Water Orton: WMR signs/signage, orange/grey lampposts (updated as of 25/1/19)
>Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts (WMR orange shelter)
>Stone: WMR signs, orange/grey lampposts & handrails
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
>Coventry Arena: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bedworth: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bermuda Park: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Albrighton: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Telford Central: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Penkridge: LM signs, old-style LMS lampposts

Trains
Class 139
139001: LM livery, WMR branding
139002: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
150105: LM livery, WMR branding
150107: ditto
150109: ditto

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery
Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
172001: still with LO
172002: at Tyseley for crew training/familiarisation
172003: as per 001
172004: as per 001
172005: as per 001
172006: at Ilford awaiting mods, refurbishment & repaint
172007: as per 001
172008: as per 001

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
172211: LM livery, WMR branding
172212: ditto
172213: ditto
172214: ditto
172215: ditto
172216: ditto
172217: ditto
172218: ditto
172219: ditto
172220: ditto
172221: ditto
172222: ditto

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway) - all in FINAL WMR livery

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise) - all in outgoing WMR livery
323201-213: WMR "outgoing" livery
323214: WMR "outgoing" livery (updated as of 17/1/19)
323215-221: WMR "outgoing" livery; (217 is currently being made 2020 compliant, and 221 has BTP branding on centre coach and retains grey doors)
323222: WMR "outgoing" livery (updated as of 17/1/19)
323240: WMR "outgoing" livery
323241: WMR "outgoing" livery (updated as of 17/1/19)
323242: WMR "outgoing" livery
323243: WMR "outgoing" livery (updated as of 17/1/19)

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!

 

[59CosG95]

And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 14/1/19).
Mods - again, feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
WCML
All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have LM signs & two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive); the exceptions are Polesworth (LNWR signage), Cheddington (LNWR signage), & Lichfield Trent Valley (still with LM green/black lampposts on both levels). Northampton & Hemel Hempstead also have Olympic Gold signage.

Abbey Line
>Watford North: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Garston: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bricket Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>How Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Park Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>St. Albans Abbey: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Marston Vale Line
>Fenny Stratford: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bow Brickhill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Woburn Sands: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aspley Guise: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ridgmont: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lidlington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Millbrook (Beds): LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stewartby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kempston Hardwick: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bedford St. Johns: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Trains
Class 230
230003: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230004: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230005: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319219: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1
350101-109: LM livery, LNWR branding
350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding
350111-130: LM Livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350233: LM livery, LNWR branding
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery

Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe

 

[Chiltern006]

And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 14/1/19).
Mods - again, feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
WCML
All WMT-managed stations on the WCML have LM signs & two-tone green/white LNWR lampposts from Watford Jct to Acton Bridge (inclusive); the exceptions are Polesworth (LNWR signage) & Lichfield Trent Valley (still with LM green/black lampposts on both levels). Northampton & Hemel Hempstead also have Olympic Gold signage.

Abbey Line
>Watford North: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Garston: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bricket Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>How Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Park Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>St. Albans Abbey: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Marston Vale Line
>Fenny Stratford: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bow Brickhill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Woburn Sands: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aspley Guise: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ridgmont: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lidlington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Millbrook (Beds): LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stewartby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kempston Hardwick: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bedford St. Johns: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Trains
Class 230
230003: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230004: Not yet delivered, assumed to be in Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230005: Not yet delivered, assumed to be in Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1
350101-109: LM livery, LNWR branding
350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding
350111-130: LM Livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350233: LM livery, LNWR branding
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery

Class 350/3 - all reliveried into full (revised) LNWR livery with 1st Class stripe

Has anyone got any photos of the Polesworth new signage