Will a 7th coach follow on later for this set?
There is already a 7th coach done at Laira which is 42377........
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Will a 7th coach follow on later for this set?
Yes I think there is. I saw one on its on own with sliding doors they other week.There is already a 7th coach done at Laira which is 42377........
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It came down last year with a slam door equivalent and two power cars. So there is a spare of each.Yes I think there is. I saw one on its on own with sliding doors they other week.
Well if you remember that XC03 has run with only 6 coaches recently but not sure which coach was missing. After 31/12/19 yes it would have to have the TSD.It came down last year with a slam door equivalent and two power cars. So there is a spare of each.
If there is no TSD on XC01 could the set go into traffic or does it have to wait for the seventh vehicle as 4 HST's are required on Sundays normally.
Yes it can.It came down last year with a slam door equivalent and two power cars. So there is a spare of each.
If there is no TSD on XC01 could the set go into traffic or does it have to wait for the seventh vehicle as 4 HST's are required on Sundays normally.
No it wouldn't... as long as the First class disabled toilet was there then it would be fine.Well if you remember that XC03 has run with only 6 coaches recently but not sure which coach was missing. After 31/12/19 yes it would have to have the TSD.
Yes. Sorry forgot about TF's having the Disabled bog.No it wouldn't... as long as the First class disabled toilet was there then it would be fine.
Sorry to quote a post from almost a year ago. There is not point to it, slam doors are perfectly fine. Just put a handle on the inside so you don't have to reach out the windows. Power doors on mk3's are the biggest waste of money, biggest pain in the backside and most inconvenient project there is.
Well if you remember that XC03 has run with only 6 coaches recently but not sure which coach was missing. After 31/12/19 yes it would have to have the TSD.
Yes I can remember that at one point XC03 was a 6 car at one point but I could not remember if this was the TSD or not. Anyway thank you both for your replies. Hopefully I will be able to catch a refurbished set soon with two completed now.Yes it can.
It's flat out illegal after 31/12/19! Here's the exact quote from the PRM-TSI EU regulation. I don't think it's reasonable for disabled people to continue to rely on there being a staff member available to let them on the train.Sorry to quote a post from almost a year ago. There is not point to it, slam doors are perfectly fine. Just put a handle on the inside so you don't have to reach out the windows. Power doors on mk3's are the biggest waste of money, biggest pain in the backside and most inconvenient project there is.
You are contradicting what the regs say. It is not "flat out illegal" for slam doors to be retained beyond 31/12/19 - the first part of the reg you quote makes that clear. It might be inconvenient and costly in terms of staff, but it is not illegal.It's flat out illegal after 31/12/19! Here's the exact quote from the PRM-TSI EU regulation. I don't think it's reasonable for disabled people to continue to rely on there being a staff member available to let them on the train.
You are contradicting what the regs say. It is not "flat out illegal" for slam doors to be retained beyond 31/12/19 - the first part of the reg you quote makes that clear. It might be inconvenient and costly in terms of staff, but it is not illegal.
(13) The method of door activation shall be by train crew, semi-automatic (i.e. passenger pushbutton operation) or automatic.
(13) The method of door activation shall be by train crew, semi-automatic (i.e. passenger pushbutton operation) or automatic.
I know, I was just transcribing it, as per rules.Yes, so one member of train crew at each door?
Presumably the GWR sleeper will be local door only at intermediate stations and all doors open / shut by train crew at Penzance and Paddington?
I know, I was just transcribing it, as per rules.
Ah.
If a passenger rather than a member of train crew opens a slam door after 31 December 2019 - we know there will still be some on the GWR sleeper - who will be breaking the law?
Like charter trains. Where by at every vestibule has a steward stopping you from window hanging.Does that mean you have to have 13 members of paid staff aboard a 7-car HST (no passenger access at the guard's end of the TGS) to open the doors plus the driver?
Does that mean you have to have 13 members of paid staff aboard a 7-car HST (no passenger access at the guard's end of the TGS) to open the doors plus the driver?
I'm sure (say) about three staff could cope, remembering that the doors don't all have to be opened at exactly the same time, and there's no reason to open doors where no-one is waiting to get on/off, and the staff already often have to walk down the train checking/closing doors.
It might hit dwell times a bit, but in some cases (e.g. Notttingham to St. Pancras HST services) the limited stops would minimize that and extra staff would be available at Notttingham and St. Pancras. It *might* be feasable as a temporary measure. Probably less practical on XC than EMT.
The cut-off date may be arbitrary (any date would be, technically) but it has been known about for a long time. The failure of the industry to get things moving towards compliance sooner is a sad indictment of how the industry is managed. We now have 7 months to rush things through and we'll be getting to the point where workshop capacity for doing the mods will be at its limit.
There's more to having a legally recognised disability than a set of wheels and I can't be the only one who the equality act says has a disability but finds "accessible" facilities difficult to use.
There are certainly people who can walk or who are unsteady on their feet who find a tighter seat pitch better (so they can hold onto the seat in front to sit down) and who prefer a small bog (so they can lean on the wall while using it).
I usually choose a priority window seat (for the legroom) and I can't recall any case so far where it would have been right for me to leave it for someone else.
You are contradicting what the regs say. It is not "flat out illegal" for slam doors to be retained beyond 31/12/19 - the first part of the reg you quote makes that clear. It might be inconvenient and costly in terms of staff, but it is not illegal.
Aside from the fact we won't be in the EU on 31st December, how does this play out in France with hundreds of Corail vehicles still used on TER services with inward opening folding doors and a great flight of stairs to climb to get on?
The EU regulation only applies to new stock. The UK unilaterally chose to apply it across the board.
Probably not a bad thing accessibility. Those Corail coaches do not work well for anyone elderly or with luggage.
When are we banning petrol and diesel cars again?