How many have been delivered now?769008 has been delivered to Cardiff Canton.
As far as I know, that's only TfW's second, 002 being the first. That makes four in total, to my knowledge, with 434 and 456 completed for Northern ages ago. Haven't had any updates on their other six for a while, though, so that number may be greater by now. The HydroFlex project was recently completed, as well, so, depending on whether you count that or not, that takes the number up to five. All 319s earmarked for conversion have moved out of storage now too, with one or two exceptions.How many have been delivered now?
And they said these would be ready by May 2018As far as I know, that's only TfW's second, 002 being the first. That makes four in total, to my knowledge, with 434 and 456 completed for Northern ages ago. Haven't had any updates on their other six for a while, though, so that number may be greater by now. The HydroFlex project was recently completed, as well, so, depending on whether you count that or not, that takes the number up to five. All 319s earmarked for conversion have moved out of storage now too, with one or two exceptions.
Yes, it's safe to say progress has been slow with the 769s to say the least. It's got to the point where some people are calling for the project to be cancelled, but I'm really hoping that doesn't happen, as 319s were my favourite EMU back in the day when they were on Thameslink.And they said these would be ready by May 2018
If training commences then, is there an estimate for how long between then and passenger service, based on how many drivers would need to be trained? 2-3 months? Would December timetable change be possible?Why September before training starts ? If the current issues are only minor why several more months before training even starts?
there are still 3 /0s and 4 /4s to be delivered; only 2 /0s have been delivered so far!If training commences then, is there an estimate for how long between then and passenger service, based on how many drivers would need to be trained? 2-3 months? Would December timetable change be possible?
It does seem a bit tight, but as per the main 769 thread, I've no idea how usable the units that have been delivered actually are.there are still 3 /0s and 4 /4s to be delivered; only 2 /0s have been delivered so far!
as far as I know they're just moving around the depot on their own power, nothing more than that yetIt does seem a bit tight, but as per the main 769 thread, I've no idea how usable the units that have been delivered actually are.
unrealistic and optimistic!TfW are currently saying they expect 769s to be in passenger service by September!
That seems pretty unrealistic given that no driver training has started yet.
true!whilst i fully agree "in service" is or can be " unrealistic and optimistic"
in service can mean virtually anything for example a train will run a service all be it every other sunday in august or a sunday in july and again in september or perhaps the school run on a friday evening
they can all be operating the full required service
unless they state the actual service they will cover as in "3 full daily diagrams covering an average 14 hours in passenger service " what "in service " means has no real value
TfW are currently saying they expect 769s to be in passenger service by September!
That seems pretty unrealistic given that no driver training has started yet.
TfW are currently saying they expect 769s to be in passenger service by September!
That seems pretty unrealistic given that no driver training has started yet.
The exhaust stack problem has been discussed in the Northern 769 thread. My understanding is that bigger exhaust stacks than those on the 150s are needed for modern emissions control.People will have to forgive my ignorance here. I have looked carefully at and compared the specifications for class 150's and 319/769's. The wheelbase lengths on both types are identical, the carriages on the 319/769 's are slightly shorter than those of the 150's. So why should the 769's have problems on curves which 150's have been navigating for decades? I would be genuinely pleased if someone can enlighten me as to other factors which might influence the 769's ability to negotiate curves (couplings for example?). In terms of general clearance issues, we have heard that exhaust stacks on the 769's were a problem and required modification, but the 769 carriages are about 20 cm less in height and only 4 mm wider than those of a 150. Can such a small width difference be critical at some locations? Any enlightenment would be genuinely welcome.
And the exhaust systems are part of the engine for emission testing purposes so alterations need to get re-certified and there is a massive backlog at all the test houses due to the changes - mainly the use of the new on road drive cycle.The exhaust stack problem has been discussed in the Northern 769 thread. My understanding is that bigger exhaust stacks than those on the 150s are needed for modern emissions control.
I'm pretty sure crew training on the 37s + Mk 2's is continuing throughout the day with one of the sets being TnT.I'm wondering that now the both the 37s will be working the Rhymney services from tomorrow and as training would have progressed, if they will be able release crews to train on the 769s.
769002 has been seen shunting around Canton depot under it's own power. Heard local rumour 769008 has a issue with its 2 gen sets not talking to each other and another rumour says it fine just the exhaust pipes needing replacing and then new paperwork
The 769 introduction date has slipped so many times, it's impossible to believe any 'firm' introduction date.https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/...s-apologises-passengers-overcrowding-16736481
November for the first 769 according to TfW, quote towards the end of this article. It doesn't say how this will affect the Pacer withdrawal. I assume keeping the 37s past 2019 would help, if they're allowed to continue using Mk IIs?
Someone in Cardiff bay needs to wake up and see the problem approaching. If they have refused tfw permission to carry on using at least the 143s then expect a backlash from customers
Why should they care,they will be seen as the first authority to keep to their word on getting rid of pacers!(now England will be keeping some for longer)Someone in Cardiff bay needs to wake up and see the problem approaching. If they have refused tfw permission to carry on using at least the 143s then expect a backlash from customers
In rail magazine that tfw are retaining the 37s into next yearhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/...s-apologises-passengers-overcrowding-16736481
November for the first 769 according to TfW, quote towards the end of this article. It doesn't say how this will affect the Pacer withdrawal. I assume keeping the 37s past 2019 would help, if they're allowed to continue using Mk IIs?