First Greater Glasgow

[TheGrandWazoo]

Doesn’t Bolton have many of the E400s from the Commonwealth Games stock that came here in 2014 then was stolen from us like candy from a kid?

I wonder to save money if it would have been a better idea to cascade some of that stock up here to replace some of the 53 plate tridents and Gemini’s. I imagine they’d be in pretty good nick still considering they’re not that old and they have the current interior scheme.

You mean the e400s that were borrowed by Glasgow to enable them to undertake CG work? Bolton only have 10 of those and they'll be staying with Rotala on loan in the short term.

There will be quite a few OpCos who would like to have those vehicles, have a greater need and I doubt they'll be heading to Scotland as you'll be getting new fleet again. Remember that Bristol (who you've kindly sent some B7s to) are still running 2000/2001 B7s in all day service, and have 2006 e400s working the main trunk routes between Weston super Mare and Bristol.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

You mean the e400s that were borrowed by Glasgow to enable them to undertake CG work? Bolton only have 10 of those and they'll be staying with Rotala on loan in the short term.

There will be quite a few OpCos who would like to have those vehicles, have a greater need and I doubt they'll be heading to Scotland as you'll be getting new fleet again. Remember that Bristol (who you've kindly sent some B7s to) are still running 2000/2001 B7s in all day service, and have 2006 e400s working the main trunk routes between Weston super Mare and Bristol.

Do Bristol have targets to meet? I thought not.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Do Bristol have targets to meet? I thought not.

Not yet but they will do as do 25 other major urban areas of the UK as they are covered by the same legislation. Hence why they are due an injection of new vehicles next year. In the meantime, they are having to release a number of their newer vehicles to Leicester so that they can meet their own CAZ - Leicester isn't getting new vehicles.

Glasgow has until 2022 to sort all of the fleet out and the graduated roll out means that First can do the same with new vehicle investment.

 

[Jordan Adam]

You mean the e400s that were borrowed by Glasgow to enable them to undertake CG work? Bolton only have 10 of those and they'll be staying with Rotala on loan in the short term.

There will be quite a few OpCos who would like to have those vehicles, have a greater need and I doubt they'll be heading to Scotland as you'll be getting new fleet again. Remember that Bristol (who you've kindly sent some B7s to) are still running 2000/2001 B7s in all day service, and have 2006 e400s working the main trunk routes between Weston super Mare and Bristol.

That's not even to mention Aberdeen who have ranging from 10 to 14 year old on their three most profitable routes! (1/2, 12 & 19) Although perhaps not that bad of a thing as the vehicles in all those cases are in relatively good condition and just need a repaint, plus one of the routes is getting 15 new buses imminently.

That aside i understand why Glasgow is getting all the new vehicles as generally speaking on the whole they have an older fleet (plus LEZ).

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

That's not even to mention Aberdeen who have ranging from 10 to 14 year old on their three most profitable routes! (1/2, 12 & 19) Although perhaps not that bad of a thing as the vehicles in all those cases are in relatively good condition and just need a repaint, plus one of the routes is getting 15 new buses imminently.

That aside i understand why Glasgow is getting all the new vehicles as generally speaking on the whole they have an older fleet (plus LEZ).

However, accepting that First have operations over the borders in Wales and England, they have other LEZs to have to cope with, some sooner than others. Therefore, such areas also need to be addressed. Glasgow has got welcome investment - much more than other places

 

[Jordan Adam]

However, accepting that First have operations over the borders in Wales and England, they have other LEZs to have to cope with, some sooner than others. Therefore, such areas also need to be addressed. Glasgow has got welcome investment - much more than other places

Agreed, as i say. It's understandable why Aberdeen isn't near the top at the moment as besides the 7 B10BLE's the oldest vehicles in the fleet are only 14.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Agreed, as i say. It's understandable why Aberdeen isn't near the top at the moment as besides the 7 B10BLE's the oldest vehicles in the fleet are only 14.

I wasn't disagreeing and you're getting your hydrogen deckers (?) plus have a fairly decent fleet with a reasonable profile. There are some fleets that have a greater challenge in terms of overall fleet age AND meeting various AQMA/LEZ/CAZ challenges.

 

[Jordan Adam]

I wasn't disagreeing and you're getting your hydrogen deckers (?) plus have a fairly decent fleet with a reasonable profile. There are some fleets that have a greater challenge in terms of overall fleet age AND meeting various AQMA/LEZ/CAZ challenges.

I've replied in the First Aberdeen thread.

 

[route101]

Very strange, as the SPT 46 between Castlemilk and Queenslie is still the standard £2.40.

Interesting , id never noticed it before as i usually have a monthly . Not mentioned anywhere.

 

[lastbus]

Very strange, as the SPT 46 between Castlemilk and Queenslie is still the standard £2.40.

It all depends on the conditions of the contract. 355 service in Lanarkshire does not accept all days or weekly tickets. Only concessions or zone cards are allowed or else you need to pay the single fare.

 

[route101]

It all depends on the conditions of the contract. 355 service in Lanarkshire does not accept all days or weekly tickets. Only concessions or zone cards are allowed or else you need to pay the single fare.

Strange , i remember when stagey had the sunday and evening 31 , was a nightmare had to buy new tiicket on stagey

 

[SarahDFIG]

branded vehicles in Lanarkshire now starting to show up anywhere.

last few days

240 branded 241/242/254/266 (nothing new)
241 branded on 240/242/266
242 branded on 266
254 branded on 242

one way to confuse the public lol.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

branded vehicles in Lanarkshire now starting to show up anywhere.

last few days

240 branded 241/242/254/266 (nothing new)
241 branded on 240/242/266
242 branded on 266
254 branded on 242

one way to confuse the public lol.

If I remember rightly back in the ‘Overground’ days, First were dreadful for this. 62 branded buses were turning up on the 61, 40 branded buses on the 262. Larkfield depot at the time weren’t much better. With so many buses it’s not something they manage particularly well...

 

[SarahDFIG]

If I remember rightly back in the ‘Overground’ days, First were dreadful for this. 62 branded buses were turning up on the 61, 40 branded buses on the 262. Larkfield depot at the time weren’t much better. With so many buses it’s not something they manage particularly well...

I understand from an operating point of view a bus better than no bus but the whole point of the branding is for passengers to identify their bus quicker/easier. Overtown has managed it quite well though since the Branding came in right enough. This is the first time I have seen all service branding messed up though.

 

[lastbus]

I understand from an operating point of view a bus better than no bus but the whole point of the branding is for passengers to identify their bus quicker/easier. Overtown has managed it quite well though since the Branding came in right enough. This is the first time I have seen all service branding messed up though.

There is 1 254 and 2 241 buses spare atm due to holiday timetable and these will be used on other routes until things go back to normal. It doesn’t make sense for a brand new bus to be sat in the depot when it can be getting used. As you say a bus is a bus and we will see less of this when the services return to normal.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

There is 1 254 and 2 241 buses spare atm due to holiday timetable and these will be used on other routes until things go back to normal. It doesn’t make sense for a brand new bus to be sat in the depot when it can be getting used. As you say a bus is a bus and we will see less of this when the services return to normal.

Is this the case too with the 75 as noticed the branded examples appearing on the X7 and X85/X87.

 

[lastbus]

Is this the case too with the 75 as noticed the branded examples appearing on the X7 and X85/X87.

Yeah.

 

[route101]

Is this the case too with the 75 as noticed the branded examples appearing on the X7 and X85/X87.

75 branded ones do well to stay on the 75 , theres one that goes on a 5 in the evening .

Last Friday the first 31 from ek was a 38 branded one , went from osborne st ,along howard st out service instead of forming the next 31 . Wonder the reason for this ?

 

[lastbus]

75 branded ones do well to stay on the 75 , theres one that goes on a 5 in the evening .

Last Friday the first 31 from ek was a 38 branded one , went from osborne st ,along howard st out service instead of forming the next 31 . Wonder the reason for this ?

Probably going on to the 38

 

[PaulMc7]

75 branded ones do well to stay on the 75 , theres one that goes on a 5 in the evening .

Last Friday the first 31 from ek was a 38 branded one , went from osborne st ,along howard st out service instead of forming the next 31 . Wonder the reason for this ?

Don't think any of us can really work out what goes on in the depots with what buses they put on. There tends to be a 38 double decker on a 7A on a Saturday morning and now there's a 1A that's the type of bus that usually appears on the 7. Not great with bus types so can't quite remember what the name for it is

 

[route101]

Probably going on to the 38

Yeah , thinking that . Bit strange that the first 31 runs from ek to town then onto something else . Unless it runs up to Ek on a 18 or 21 .

 

[route101]

Don't think any of us can really work out what goes on in the depots with what buses they put on. There tends to be a 38 double decker on a 7A on a Saturday morning and now there's a 1A that's the type of bus that usually appears on the 7. Not great with bus types so can't quite remember what the name for it is

Caley have one or two e300s now .Seen one on 31 other night , probably only bus type ive not been on the 31.

The single deckerson one are e300s.

Caley do peaks on 18 and often 31 branded e400s

 

[christopherrfc]

new timetables on traveline

service 2 withdrawn between Bailleston and Airdrie/ Maxim park

service 4/4a now operates every 15mins between Broomhill and Clarkston with a 30min frequency to Newton Mearns/Eaglesham

service 266 will still operate to Shotts but now on a 15 minute frequency

 

[PaulMc7]

new timetables on traveline

service 2 withdrawn between Bailleston and Airdrie/ Maxim park

service 4/4a now operates every 15mins between Broomhill and Clarkston with a 30min frequency to Newton Mearns/Eaglesham

service 266 will still operate to Shotts but now on a 15 minute frequency

Not surprised with the cut to the 4 frequency tbh although the 266 increase to Shotts is a surprise

 

[lastbus]

Not surprised with the cut to the 4 frequency tbh although the 266 increase to Shotts is a surprise

There is no increase to shotts

 

[SarahDFIG]

new timetables on traveline

service 2 withdrawn between Bailleston and Airdrie/ Maxim park

service 4/4a now operates every 15mins between Broomhill and Clarkston with a 30min frequency to Newton Mearns/Eaglesham

service 266 will still operate to Shotts but now on a 15 minute frequency

266 already is 15 minutes

 

[Scott mac]

Yeah , thinking that . Bit strange that the first 31 runs from ek to town then onto something else . Unless it runs up to Ek on a 18 or 21 .

During the week theirs a early morning 31 goes to ek mostly a e400 which goes on to a 6 then theirs some that does a 31 then a 18 back down the 1 a cant understand is a Saturday morning 7a empty from caly to old larkfield depot at gates runs to st enoch only a few stops then empty again to start a 38

 

[PaulMc7]

266 already is 15 minutes

Oh yeah so it is, my mistake

 

[lastbus]

Oh yeah so it is, my mistake

Was every 12 before summer timetable so basically it’s being reduced

 

[PaulMc7]

Was every 12 before summer timetable so basically it’s being reduced

Yeah I knew the timetable previous to the summer. Just read the Saturday timetable by accident lol