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Aictos

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As oppposed to the ticket office version, how knowledgeable are the platform staff at your local station?

From knowledge of routes served by that station, to local attractions to taxis etc...

Come on guys, surprise me, ;)
 
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Lime Street are very accommodating, but I also think that's partly down to the local attitude.

London stations not so, can be downright rude. And the goons at Piccadilly are just crap.
 

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I know it's not what you're after, but I'm constantly surprised by what people expect me to know of stations I work to. They'll say about some road, or shop in Cardiff they need, as if someone living in Redditch would have a clue? My trains spends 25min there generally, and most of that's spent shunting. I'm also quite often asked for taxi numbers, usually say 'try 118118'.
 

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Lime Street are very accommodating
They hadn't heard of Hag Fold though. When asked to repeat it, I couldn't stop myself laughing a bit. None of the guards knew where Hag Fold was either. Which was good, because we basically wanted to do Liverpool-Warrington-Wigan-Liverpool and didn't want to buy 3 singles that all cost 5p less than a return, and Hag Fold seemed the best bet! ;)
 

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There *are* no platform staff at my local station. A lot of the time, there's no ticket office staff either.
At Wanstead Park, which is also nearby but not the one I use regularly, they didn't know what Tube lines were open or closed the other weekend, specifically the Victoria Line, which their line connects with at Blackhorse Road.
 

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Platform Staff? What Platform Staff? :lol:

Call this controversial or a stereotype if you will, but in my experience the further north you go, the friendlier the staff get. Most London station staff are clueless (although I never had any problems at Marylebone, but then again what do we expect from Chiltern?), and the same goes for many major stations south of the A14. Brighton seem to be good (although it has been almost four years since I was there last), and Cardiff Central seem to be good enough (when they aren't battling Bluebirds [i.e. Cardiff City F.C.] supporters anyway!), but other than that, well. And here you may as well not bother.

Further north, I have never had any problems at Piccadilly. Okay, I've only been there three times (four if you count either side of a Metrolink run to Victoria and back as separate occasions), but each time they were very supportive, every the gateline staff (though obviously there were rather inundated by masses of travellers!). And the perennial failure, New Street, follows its own trend. Lastly, I would also promote Scotland's Network Rail pair, although one evening isn't enough to justify this.

There *are* no platform staff at my local station. A lot of the time, there's no ticket office staff either.

At Forest Gate? I always thought that Shenfield Metro stations were good for having staff around.
 

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although I never had any problems at Marylebone, but then again what do we expect from Chiltern?

I've had hassle getting through the barriers both times I've been to Marylebone for photography (and I had a valid ticket as well, just CR had set the barriers to reject all child tickets).
 

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Not many are Knowledgalbe but they are very helpful at Wolverhampton. E.g. when lake district had those large floods since i was getting mixxed news about the line i asked a platform staff and they radioed through to ask :)

Whilst BNS (seprate journeys to concerts etc) i found them incredibly rude and unwilling to reply to questions.


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I don't live locally in Hertford so while I can't comment on bus timetables, I can assist with rail timetables and if it's a place I'm not aware of then I do my best to find out or if I know the destination, I try and find a better route then what the PC suggests.

Still I went down to Brighton last year and they were more then happy to cater for my query, I know there are some stations which has the opposite effect namely St Pancras which far from being the flagship station it is supposed to be!
 

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At Forest Gate? I always thought that Shenfield Metro stations were good for having staff around.
Nope. Might see an Initial cleaner occasionally but never any NXEA staff. Stratford generally has people about, as does Romford, dunno about others on the line.
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I know there are some stations which has the opposite effect namely St Pancras which far from being the flagship station it is supposed to be!

That might be the case with the FCC platform staff (although I don't work with them day-to-day) but I'd hope it certainly isn't the case with the NR (or even EMT) staff. If NR staff don't know, they will ask.
 

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Not many are Knowledgalbe but they are very helpful at Wolverhampton. E.g. when lake district had those large floods since i was getting mixxed news about the line i asked a platform staff and they radioed through to ask :)

Whilst BNS (seprate journeys to concerts etc) i found them incredibly rude and unwilling to reply to questions.

By BNS I assume you mean New Street (BHM)? Never mind St Pancras being the flagship NR station, New Street should be. It showcases everything that is bad abour our railways.
 

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By St Pancras, the majority of problems have been with FCC staff although there was one incident with a NR staff member who stated photography was not permitted at St Pancras due to it being a trademarked building!
 

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Usually most of the platform staff I talk to have their computer screens and walkie talkies so they know whats happening about delays etc. Never really had to ask about directions as I usually know where I'm going, have print outs of Google maps or soemone is picking me up.

In January I was supposed to go to Inverness but due to the snow trains were stopping short. The platform staff knew that the replacement bus service wasn't running but the ticket staff didn't.
 

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I very much think the location is a big part of staff attitude and knowledge. I think it's reflects on on train staff too, and is also found in other customer service in the area in general. I don't want to sound racist, but I do find that areas where "none natives" make up a large portion of the customer facing workforce the quality is typically lower. For all the talk of "customer care training" and the like, language and cultural differences do seem to come into it. I think culture is the main issue really, which is why it's not really racist as it's not a matter of race as much as culture. Some cultures take great pride in customer care, others don't see it as important, British culture is probably somewhere in the middle. Oviously "natives" also can refer to the area as much as the country, as someone who has lived in an area for many years is going to have more knowledge than someone who has recently moved there, regardless of if they have moved from the other side of the country or the other side of the world.

I think the size of stations also comes into it. When employing staff for a small station you want well rounded types who can do a variety of jobs (at my local station it's not uncommon to see staff emptying bins or sweeping the platforms between dispatching trains). At a large station though staff are likely to be much more specialised, and there will be many who are not involed in or trained for dealing with the public. That doesn't stop passengers asking them questions though. The average customer does seem to expect to be able to ask any question of anyone who looks like they "work here" and even if they don't know they will no someone who does. Especially with a large station, the chances are a lot of the staff won't even work for the railways, but a company contracted by the railways for that particular job. Cleaners, security etc are all good examples. I think we all do fall into that trap too of seeing someone in a uniform and expecting some great knowledge of things well beyond their normal work. Then again, I think another important point is that in the past it was much safer to assume that someone who "works here" also "lives around here", yet these days it's not the case, so local knowledge is more often lacking.
 

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I very much think the location is a big part of staff attitude and knowledge.

You've got a good point there. It runs parallel with what I said earlier about Lime Street.

Off topic slightly, the only case where that has not happened was the July of 2007 - 5th I think it was. Anyway, I had lead an expedition of about 9 people to the Scottish highlands, and we had just come into Queen St on the way back to London. Walking through the gate at the side, station staff get panicky about our large, and obviously suspicious hiking bags on our backs. (The attempted Glasgow Airport bombing had been 3 days before).

Anyway we were stopped, threatened loudly and rudely by angry gate-line staff before the BTP arrived, made us unpack our bags completely and let us on our way when they discovered we had no bombs. We missed our train from Central (travelling on AP tkts) and afterwards we were refused refunds on accounts we posed a security threat at the time! VT were extremely kind though, and had let us travel on the next train as we could prove that we had travelled into Queen St from Ft William.

Still, the only blemish I am yet to experience on the face of the theory that location has a large part to play in the attitude of staff, and that the north is just a more friendly place to be all round ;)
 

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As oppposed to the ticket office version, how knowledgeable are the platform staff at your local station?

From knowledge of routes served by that station, to local attractions to taxis etc...

Come on guys, surprise me, ;)

The ones at Shrewsbury are great, they know all the shunt moves, they are in radio contact with the 5 boxes and know the area well, they will take some beating
 

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Well I don't know too much about buses but I can certainly point you in the direction of a taxi, decent kebab, wetherspoons etc ;) I know the area around the station I work reasonably well. The stuff people do expect you to know can be rather strange to say the least - as if I'd know where the immigration centre is?
I know the majority of station stops on trains out of my station and relevant connecting stations but theres alot i've never been to which would help day to day I think.
 

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The platform staff at Piccadilly are rubbish, no other word to describe them. My train was cancelled once (well I suppose it would have been, a train can't get cancelled twice) with no announcement or anything and the member of staff I asked was absolutely clueless, just said "ermmm... ask at the station reception".

At Preston the staff are generally very good, but Virgin staff usually are.
 

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The platform staff at Piccadilly are rubbish, no other word to describe them. My train was cancelled once (well I suppose it would have been, a train can't get cancelled twice) with no announcement or anything and the member of staff I asked was absolutely clueless, just said "ermmm... ask at the station reception".

At Preston the staff are generally very good, but Virgin staff usually are.

Sounds like Cardiff Central last night! :D The 21:30 XC service to Bristol TM apparently did not exist, and disappeared off the timing screens at 21:32 (with them having displayed it as "arrived" from five minutes beforehand. And guess what... No ATW staff at all. What a surprise. Hub station? Ha!
 

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The ones at Shrewsbury are great, they know all the shunt moves, they are in radio contact with the 5 boxes and know the area well, they will take some beating

I'd second that, having been to Shrewsbury a couple of times - I remember once over when a steam special was coming in, the member of staff on the gates had taken the trouble to get hold of a load of platform tickets, and was distributing them to the enthusiasts who wanted to go up and take photos/have a look at the loco.

As it was, it turned up around 4 hours late in the end, having failed at Ludlow... :(
 

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I don't think there's such a person as platform staff, and the individuals that form this group vary greatly!

Don't know if there still is, but there used to be a massively wonderful guy at Peterborough (with a pony tail) that knew everything - photographic memory for times and platforms for next trains.
 

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Not familiar with the guy at Peterborough you describe, might need to ask as he was probably gone before I started on the railways as I never used the railways before joining up.

I know one guy who's now at Grantham who used to look up TOPS for anyone who asked where a particular loco was, I remember a family of three asking for I think some 66 once....
 

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Sounds like Cardiff Central last night! :D The 21:30 XC service to Bristol TM apparently did not exist, and disappeared off the timing screens at 21:32 (with them having displayed it as "arrived" from five minutes beforehand. And guess what... No ATW staff at all. What a surprise. Hub station? Ha!

I have not used Cardiff Central on a Sat evening for years, are you saying
the key station of the All Wales Franchise had no staff on duty?
I find this difficult to take in.

M
 

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I have not used Cardiff Central on a Sat evening for years, are you saying
the key station of the All Wales Franchise had no staff on duty?
I find this difficult to take in.

M

Oh there were staff, but the only people in Arriva uniforms were off-duty! There were XC and FGW staff around, but most operatives were a part of the BTP. There may have been staff at the gateline, but that would have been the only site.
 

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There would be platform staff there, but were probably in the platform office.

With regards to the question in the title; I think I am very knowledgable, but don't ask questions when I'm quite clearly pushing someone in a wheelchair or helping a blind person across the station. I won't stop for you!
 

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There would be platform staff there, but were probably in the platform office.

With regards to the question in the title; I think I am very knowledgable, but don't ask questions when I'm quite clearly pushing someone in a wheelchair or helping a blind person across the station. I won't stop for you!

Sorry for being slow/impolite/ignorant/whatever, but which station do you work at?

EDIT: Never mind. Has been answered. Ivo is slow :roll:
 
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Staff at Loughborough are usually very helpful and polite. They kind of stand out at a 3 platform station, perhaps more so than at a mainline station. Ive always found staff at Leicester and Nottingham quite good as well.
 
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