RealTrains07
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Looks more like grand central not gonna lieI know. What do you guys think?
Looks more like grand central not gonna lieI know. What do you guys think?
Trenitalia c2c ! Essex Thameside.Because TOCs don't use the owning company's name as part of their brand identity any more. In fact, Virgin Trains is the only TOC left that does so.
The brand name is just c2c. They don't use Trenitalia as part of the brand identity.Trenitalia c2c ! Essex Thameside.
True but it does have trenitalia on the trains. Very small but it’s there.The brand name is just c2c. They don't use Trenitalia as part of the brand identity.
Situation normal then. The name of the relevant limited company and the public facing name are nearly always slightly different.Well we seem to have west midland trains and west midland railway
Chiltern, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern have all added 'by Arriva' to their branding in the last couple of years.Because TOCs don't use the owning company's name as part of their brand identity any more. In fact, Virgin Trains is the only TOC left that does so.
Chiltern, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern have all added 'by Arriva' to their branding in the last couple of years.
I think you're splitting hairs there. The brand name is not 'Arriva Chiltern Railways' but simply 'Chiltern Railways' - as it always has been.Chiltern, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern have all added 'by Arriva' to their branding in the last couple of years.
Agreed the name is still the same but there has still been a deliberate and probably expensive effort by Arriva to move away from a neutral branding to one which emphasised who the franchise holder is. Makes no difference whether the branding is before or after the name it's still there and a lot more prominent than some. I've also noticed on Scotrail there seems to be more and more Abellio logos around than there ever used to be.I think you're splitting hairs there. The brand name is not 'Arriva Chiltern Railways' but simply 'Chiltern Railways' - as it always has been.
Compare with the TPE franchise which used to be branded 'First Transpennine Express' but is now simply branded 'Transpennine Express'.
If they start announcing trains as "the 11:00 Chiltern Railways by Arriva service to London Marylebone" then you might have a point. Until then...Agreed the name is still the same but there has still been a deliberate and probably expensive effort by Arriva to move away from a neutral branding to one which emphasised who the franchise holder is.
To be fair anything using "West Coast" will be incongruous on trains between London and Glasgow for all but about half a mile of the journey!Anything using "West Coast" will be quite incongruous on trains running between London and Leeds (and extending on the classic lines to Newcastle).
Perhaps, although such a livery would be a tad "brand-centric" for the railway of the 2010s and 2020s...A nice colour for the w/c would be pink with green white and red wavey lines coming of a F for first and coming into a T for traintalia Both bright and modern.
Just call it 'West Coast' with a large stylised 'WC' behind the drivers cabs.
Just call it 'West Coast' with a large stylised 'WC' behind the drivers cabs.
I also doubt a logo of that nature. There was a lot of speculation that the South Western franchise would have something gWr-ish and it ended up with something related only in having Roman letters. I suspect West Coast will be different again.Something like this?
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Can't see that happening, honestly. I'd imagine something more along the lines of EMR.
Arabic? Cyrillic?I also doubt a logo of that nature. There was a lot of speculation that the South Western franchise would have something gWr-ish and it ended up with something related only in having Roman letters. I suspect West Coast will be different again.
Please God, no!Can't they go with whatever colour the original ' LMS' was run under , Ditto for LNER, as that LNER colour scheme on the Azuma is awful .
And the interior with the colour stripe looks so tacky compared to just about every generation of coach I've been on since being born in the late 70's .
Mind you as you folks the GWR , IMHO the green looks great , but they could have used a more authentic font.
Akin to that of the new ' EMT' ,221 , now there is a great colour scheme.
How about just WC. Name one end of a unit 'ladies' and the other end 'gents'.If someone has already posted this ..I apologise..
West Coast Express is my suggestion..
How about just WC. Name one end of a unit 'ladies' and the other end 'gents'.