Just seen on Tracksy a Doncaster to Scunthorpe aproaching Hatfield on the Skellow line which took me by surprise.
How long have Northern been running that way?
Is this the first time Northern have run that way?They've been doing it most of the day.
So, coaches are actually running every 30 mins between Doncaster and Sheffield. Staff at sheffield told me Northern are not ‘advertising’ them as they have been organised by TPE and CrossCountry.
Nothing at Doncaster to get anyone towards Hull, even though the roads are open to Goole. Only option given was to wait 2 hours for a Hull Trains service.
Seems to me like Northern have taken the easy option here, no trains running Hull to Doncaster via Selby. Just a ‘do not travel’.
RTT is not accurate today, as I found to my cost!
I would suspect that water has got into cables and/or Location cabinets disrupting control of the signalling, fouling up track circuits etc, hence the 'control failure' given on the train describers.Well this is the signalling diagram for the affected area - Rotherham's 'FLUD WATA' has been in the affected area for most of yesterday. I wonder if there's any truth behind the control failure too at Conisbrough...
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I have family in the Whiston/Kiveton Park area and they say it was worse than 2007, the last time Sheffield flooded. The only description they gave me when I spoke to them today was monsoon conditions lasting for hours.
For context it rained all day yesterday in Leeds, at times very heavy. Rainfall readings were however only 35mm. In Sheffield they received almost 90mm.
Thanks, and I will certainly bear this in mind in future. I think what misled me was that the 0708 from Sheffield was shown as cancelled but the 0701 wasn’t, so I now assume the former cancellation had been inputted but the latter hadn’t.RTT won't be accurate in such short notice circumstances. You won't find anything unless a scheduled and locations have been drawn up for RTT to match to.
I have family in the Whiston/Kiveton Park area and they say it was worse than 2007, the last time Sheffield flooded. The only description they gave me when I spoke to them today was monsoon conditions lasting for hours.
For context it rained all day yesterday in Leeds, at times very heavy. Rainfall readings were however only 35mm. In Sheffield they received almost 90mm.
Interesting that XC are running the coaches in one direction only according to NRE.Thanks for posting this. Currently on a RRB from Doncaster to Sheffield as opposed to the x78 I was expecting to take. To be fair, there is now more organisation at Doncaster, with staff directing passengers to the coaches.
M18 really busy and standing with fields around looking like lakes.
All lines are blocked north of Derby due to an unsafe bridge. Services are diverting via the Erewash valley.
The River Derwent is continuing to rise.
Their was some Sunday diversions a decade ago when the Stainforth Junction was being re modelled.Is this the first time Northern have run that way?
I never knew Thier crews signed that route
In a pleasing example of cooperation between operators on the modern railway, as a secondary impact of the flooding at Sheffield, Crosscountry ran a planned ECS as a passenger service in place of EMR's 23:10 Nottingham - Leicester at the end of last night. Not often that you get a Crosscountry Turbostar calling at East Midlands Parkway and Loughborough.
No estimate on when the line between Sheffield and Doncaster at Conisborough is expected to reopen, so Crosscountry South West - North East services continue to divert via Barnsley, which is fairly rare. No Reading - Newcastle trains running north of Birmingham at all it seems, so I assume that what Crosscountry trains are running are going to be even more crowded than usual!
Their was some Sunday diversions a decade ago when the Stainforth Junction was being re modelled.
Not sure how they can have the audacity to tell people “not to travel”, some people have no choice but to travel and their only option is the train. I’m sure if people could just drop their travel plans at the top of a hat they’d never use trains again.
I managed to get back to Sheffield from Leeds today with the XC service but many of northbound XC services from Sheffield are severely delayed.
Northern not running any trains between Hull and Doncaster today, only the stopper running from Hull but terminating at Goole. Still no buses as a replacement, advice still ‘do not travel’. Hull Trains only running 4 trains today due to engineering work. Loads of people use these Northern services to connect at Doncaster, I still don’t think providing an alternative is good enough.
I’ve seen people asking Northern about using trains to connect at York or Leeds instead. Advice has been that they will need to buy new tickets to do that or just not travel. Really poor.
I trust you’ve offered your expertise in dealing with adverse weather conditions to them?