XCTurbostar
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Experience has taught me that all of the train operators are watching.. Your comments are not ignored.
The staff even said they hated Voyagers!!Chitern006 said nothing about Pendolinos. They were talking about the new trains that are being ordered.
On a separate note, it amuses me that the West Coast Partnership website states that the new trains will "replace the unpopular Voyager trains". The similarly worded First group page for the franchise uses the word "outdated" instead: Funnily enough, I can't see Crosscountry referring to their fleet of identical trains in the same way any time soon!
Still, most of my points still apply. Why would they make a website named after their new train? It's not like Trenitalia is a preservation group!Chitern006 said nothing about Pendolinos. They were talking about the new trains that are being ordered.
On a separate note, it amuses me that the West Coast Partnership website states that the new trains will "replace the unpopular Voyager trains". The similarly worded First group page for the franchise uses the word "outdated" instead: Funnily enough, I can't see Crosscountry referring to their fleet of identical trains in the same way any time soon!
'Avanti!', directed by Billy wilder was a 1972 film starring Jack Lemon and Juliet Mills, who can be seen topless in the final scenes.That reminds me of a trip to Genoa, years back when I was in my teens. A couple of 'ladies' walked up to us one evening, encouraging us to 'Avanti, Avanti...come on boys, have a good time!'
I think the Pendolinos will stay largely white, with a logo at each end rather than a new look along the whole train. It looks like it's going to be a South-West-North triangular logo, which I guess encompasses a lot of the route but not all. I think a simple arrow logo would have been better pointing west <-
Pendolino already has brand value, so why get rid of it?
Yeah I agree on that point.Still, most of my points still apply. Why would they make a website named after their new train? It's not like Trenitalia is a preservation group!
The 5.30 launch time is just right for a live on the spot report in the teatime news bulletins about franchising, how the political parties are squaring up on rail franchising in the election, and the end of Virgin and for Peter Plisner to do something for Midlands Today at 6.30.
Even an election themed news item about franchising is worth thousands in getting the new brand advertised on the BBC.
Things pointing to the left are seen as 'backwards' though, in left-to-right reading cultures.
The Intercity West Coast franchise is much bigger than a local Midlands news bulletin.
Not to mention the HS2 dimension which is bound to come up (if it hasn't by then in the election campaigning).
Avanti sounds like another "Arriva", a random word
Things pointing to the left are seen as 'backwards' though, in left-to-right reading cultures.
Which sort-of proves the point. The company does well with a left arrow in a place where they read the opposite way to us.Traditional Japanese reads right to left, Northwest Airlines had a big presence in Japan for years (including a Tokyo hub) despite their logo of an arrow pointing Northwest (I.e. to the left)
rightExcept it isn’t, it’s an Italian word that translates as ‘come on’
Well, if it's anything like First's efforts on SWR Virgin branding will still be evident after a year..Maybe "Pendolino" isn't considered Italian enough?
Still plenty of Virgin branding visible today, even on the interiors of "whitened" Pendos.
In the loos...Other than posters and leaflets where does one see Virgin branding on the inside of a Pendolino? I can't think of any.
On the 1st Class headrestsIn the loos...
People kept peeling the stickers off, so they went for a full vinyl replacement.LNER put a square sticker of clouds over the balloon in the loos on board. They didn't replace it all.
I don't know what's a more "dated" colour, Virgin red or First Trenitalia dark blue...Virgin Trains Traincrew messrooms, the Virgin red has started to be over painted in a dark blue colour.
Don't know if the blue will be used on First Trenitalia run stations.
Things are changing very quickly.
On the 1st Class headrests
I don't know what's a more "dated" colour, Virgin red or First Trenitalia dark blue...
Yes, I always think of old applications of the paint whenever it's mentioned for some reasonDark blue is standard FirstGroup isn't it?
I think the Pendolinos will stay largely white, with a logo at each end rather than a new look along the whole train. It looks like it's going to be a South-West-North triangular logo, which I guess encompasses a lot of the route but not all. I think a simple arrow logo would have been better pointing west <-