The 2019 General Election Result and Aftermath

[CC 72100]

Has Francois been at the booze? He is off his trolley

This bloke is a nutter.

 

[bramling]

Blyth Valley - Never been anything other than Labour.

OMG even if they don’t quite take it that’s quite something.

 

[ABB125]

No, it's because it's the (new) Speaker's seat.

It's the new speaker's constituency.

Thanks both

 

[Mag_seven]

I'm off to bed now - wake me up in 5 years time when its all over.

 

[DarloRich]

OMG even if they don’t quite take it that’s quite something.

I expect many NE towns to drift away from Labour. Look at what happens to places like Hartlepool. Brexit is the big driver for that coupled with Corbyn.

My big worry is that the shock of Brexit will be devastating to these same towns.

 

[bussnapperwm]

At least George Galloway won't get West Brom West (I hate the man with a passion)

 

[DarloRich]

This bloke is a nutter.

it is ok they have Kate Hoey on now. She is a fruit loop.

 

[ABB125]

Blyth valley is having a recount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ele...f2cbd910dc73067b7368ba&pinned_post_type=share

 

[bussnapperwm]

Newcastle on Tyne Central have returned back to Westminster Chi Onwurah

 

[43066]

I have nothing against Tories whatsoever.

I just don't like selfish people.

Neither do I. What a radical statement.

Do you assume all tories are selfish?

I expect many NE towns to drift away from Labour. Look at what happens to places like Hartlepool. Brexit is the big driver for that coupled with Corbyn.

My big worry is that the shock of Brexit will be devastating to these same towns.

Those towns will get precisely what they voted for - what they don’t need is well meaning left leaning commentators telling them what they really voted for.

 

[DarloRich]

At least the Geordies haven't completely lost the plot!

 

[theblackwatch]

And that is of course the real problem. Until Labour are free of Momentum and their acolytes nothing will change. They might, I stress might, get rid of Corbyn but they'll only replace him with someone similar.

I'm afraid I think you are right. There have been enough warnings that a lot of people - even Labour supporters - don't like Corbyn. Even this evening, McDonnell was blaming Brexit and seems to be in denial that Corbyn et al is the problem. Even staunch Tory voters who I know say that the country needs a decent and credible opposition - Labour really needs a total rethink.

 

[DarloRich]

Those towns will get precisely what they voted for - what they don’t need is well meaning left leaning commentators telling them what they really voted for.

thanks for your incisive comment and political analysis. Stick your "i'm all right jack" nonsense up your jumper please. I am fairly certain i have more knowledge and experience of these towns than you do.

 

[bussnapperwm]

Houghton and Sunderland South have returned to Westminster Bridget Phillipson with UKIP losing their deposit

 

[TrafficEng]

(and the exit poll doesn't count postal votes and there are a lot of them)?

The methodology is supposed to take postal votes into account somehow.

What is interesting is YouGov's normally highly accurate methodology was predicting a far smaller (and reducing) majority. I don't think it is all over yet.

 

[DarloRich]

Houghton and Sunderland South have returned to Westminster Bridget Phillipson with UKIP losing their deposit

vastly reduced majority.

 

[507021]

Neither do I. What a radical statement.

Do you assume all tories are selfish?

Sorry, just not in a great mood tonight.

A lot of the Tories I know are alright to be honest.

 

[bussnapperwm]

Blyth Valley has gone Tory. Majority 712

 

[Tetchytyke]

I am really worried that solid labour seats in the North East will turn Tory on the back of getting brexit done.

They may well do. Turkeys voting for Christmas.

I don't see how Corbyn could ever have squared that circle. Campaigning for remain wipes out your Brexit vote; campaigning for Brexit wipes out your Remain vote. But not making any decision just annoys everyone. Brexit truly boxed him in, and Johnson has exploited that ruthlessly.

I don't even think Brexit being an inevitable disaster will change things for the better, as the blame-the-judges-traitors-whoever Steve Bannon playbook is so successful.

 

[43066]

thanks for your incisive comment and political analysis. Stick your "i'm all right jack" nonsense up your jumper please. I am fairly certain i have more knowledge and experience of these towns than you do.

Based on my ancestry and family history, I rather doubt that.

I can deliver plenty more political analysis if you’d like. It may not be to your liking, I’m afraid.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I thought they stood in every constituency. Are there any others where they aren't standing?
Presumably they aren't standing in Chorley because it is the safest safe seat in the country?

Chorley is the new Speaker's constituency - there is a standing agreement among the major parties not to stand against their party.

 

[Tetchytyke]

My big worry is that the shock of Brexit will be devastating to these same towns.

You know what? I don't care what happens to those towns. They got what they wanted. I, naturally, hope that Brexit will be a glorious success (because my livelihood depends on it). But when it isn't, well, I shan't be shedding many tears for the final demise of these towns.

Make bed, lie in bed.

 

[DarloRich]

Based on my ancestry and family history, I rather doubt that.

I can deliver plenty more political analysis if you’d like. It may not be to your liking, I’m afraid.

We both know the Tories will never do anything to help people in places like Blyth. Your boys have won there but they need to deliver there now. To do that they now need to deal with people in really tough situations and make lives better in poor towns. They need to create jobs that are secure and pay well, they need to improve opportunity, they need to invest in better public services, they need to fix the NHS, they need to make sure that benefits work ( and pay) and they need to look after these people and make things better. They wont. We both know that. Oh and they need to make the impact of brexit not be massively damaging in poor working class towns. Over to you.

On the analysis I would prefer if you could avoid the glib and obvious trolling..............

 

[43066]

You know what? I don't care what happens to those towns. They got what they wanted. I, naturally, hope that Brexit will be a glorious success (because my livelihood depends on it). But when it isn't, well, I shan't be shedding many tears for the final demise of these towns.

Make bed, lie in bed.

TLDR - they didn’t vote the way you wanted them to, so they can now die in the mud?

Classy.

 

[Tetchytyke]

Blyth Valley has gone to the Tories.

 

[AlterEgo]

Blyth Valley has gone Tory. Majority 712

Labour had held the seat since 1950.

 

[AlterEgo]

I wonder if the penny will drop at Labour HQ - a lot of swing, and moderate voters, see Corbyn as the greater of two evils.

 

[Tetchytyke]

TLDR - they didn’t vote the way you wanted them to, so they can now die in the mud?

I hope Brexit works out because we're all screwed if it doesn't. And if it works out OK then nobody will be in the mud.

You obviously believe the Tories will do wonders and achieve a glorious Brexit. Nobody will die in the mud, it'll be sunny uplands for all. So if you have faith in Johnson to be a roaring success, why would my comment be "classy"?

But if Brexit does destroy the economy and these towns take the brunt- as I suspect will happen- I'm not going to be particularly sad. Actions have consequences.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

Let’s just make one point clear - Boris Johnson clearly hasn’t been the architect of this campaign - he’s a figurehead at best, carried along by his waffles and his ego. This Tory win (if it is as big as the poll suggests) is a huge success for the big-data miners and analysts, the long-game strategists and the far right-wing brains currently advising Downing Street. Dominic Cummings and the like.

 

[Tetchytyke]

I wonder if the penny will drop at Labour HQ - a lot of swing, and moderate voters, see Corbyn as the greater of two evils.

The electorate also saw mild and moderate Miliband (as Blairite as they come) as the greater of two evils- remember the dire warnings of his "coalition of chaos"- which is precisely why Corbyn got elected as leader.

So if Diet Tory doesn't work, and suburban socialism doesn't work, then I'm all out of ideas. I'm honestly not sure what would work.