Somewhere upthread it's difficulties creating a segregated area for departures.I'm wondering why they are missing out Schiphol at present. Most of business is now situated nearer to Schiphol than Centraal, and there is also the interlining trade to consider.
In a few years' time, Eurostar services should move to Amsterdam Zuid. The facilities at Amsterdam Centraal are only intended to be temporary, once Amsterdam Centraal has been remodelled all international trains are due to move to Zuid. And that's where the business district is.
07:16 D London St. Pancras
11:32 A Rotterdam Centraal
11:50 D Rotterdam Centraal
12:28 A Utrecht Centraal
07:16 D London St. Pancras
12:11 A Amsterdam Centraal
12:24 D Rotterdam Centraal
12:51 A Utrecht Centraal
The same applies to many destinations in the Netherlands, including Nijmegen, Leeuwarden, Groningen, cities in Brabant and Limburg, and so on.
07:16 London -> Rotterdam pl. 12 11:32
12:05 Rotterdam pl. 14 -> Groningen pl. 2b 14:42
07:16 London -> Amsterdam pl. 13 12:11
12:38 Amsterdam pl. 13b -> Almere pl. 3 12:58
13:02 Almere pl. 4 -> Zwolle pl. 7 13:43
13:45 Zwolle pl. 6 -> Groningen pl. 2b 14:42
07:16 London -> Rotterdam pl. 12 11:32
11:35 Rotterdam pl. 14 -> Zwolle pl. 7 13:09
13:15 Zwolle pl. 6 -> Groningen pl. 4b 14:12
If Eurostar sold tickets between Rotterdam and Amsterdam then it would make sense for them to charge less for London-Rotterdam so they could fill the seat again and make more money. But they don't so they don't.Yes strange that Eurostar to Rotterdam exactly the same price as Amsterdam when Rotterdam to Amsterdam high speed on its own is an expensive ticket.
On the other hand, your NS ticket will cost more if you get off the Eurostar at a Rotterdam. So there’s that.
Yes strange that Eurostar to Rotterdam exactly the same price as Amsterdam when Rotterdam to Amsterdam high speed on its own is an expensive ticket.
It won't, Amsterdam - Groningen is just as expensive as Rotterdam - Groningen as you run into the maximum single fare price on NS.On the other hand, your NS ticket will cost more if you get off the Eurostar at a Rotterdam. So there’s that.
* You can buy e-tickets on the NS website, www.ns.nl. NS don't do 'booked train only' tickets, an e-ticket bought on their website will be valid for the entire day.
Amsterdam to Groningen and Rotterdam to Groningen both cost the maximum NS fare of 27.00. If you travel outside rush hours, there are usually special offers available. Currently you can get singles for 11.50.
https://www.treinreiziger.nl/goedkoop-treinkaartje/
No, you can use it for a one-way journey if you wish. NS do not track nor enforce the usage of the return portion of such a ticket.Is there any reason I couldn't buy this day return ticket for €19 and just use it one way?
Where is the metro island? Is that being buried too? It already has 3 islands (1 pair metro, sharing the lines, which is less than ideal, 2 pairs for rail)Zuid will see extensive redevelopment as part of the 'Zuidasdok' project. The motorway will be brought underground, one new platform will be added (two additional tracks) and the entire station will be redeveloped.
In the future Amsterdam Zuid and its surroundings should look like this:
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Picture source: Team V Architecture's website
There's an offer for € 11.50 single off-peak further down the page, or the link under the heading "Online kopen" (Hier is de verkooppagina) offers two singles for € 24 with the snacks, through "Nu boeken" on the right.Is there any reason I couldn't buy this day return ticket for €19 and just use it one way?
There's an offer for € 11.50 single off-peak further down the page, or the link under the heading "Online kopen" (Hier is de verkooppagina) offers two singles for € 24 with the snacks, through "Nu boeken" on the right.
The two-singles € 24 offer allows your journey in the evening peak, so it's a question of whether you can make use of a single ticket on another day, for the extra € 5.I'll be travelling in the peak.
Mostly agree with this but worth pointing out that a lot of *national* connections will be available at Rotterdam as well, which is a very convenient station for interchangeI understand about wanting more intensive local services at the old central station and hence moving internationals to Zuid to make space - but does that mean that most longer-distance national trains will go to Zuid as well, leaving the other station for local/commuter/regional services? If internationals move to Zuid but the main national routes don't, then that will mess up onward connections for people arriving on Eurostar etc [and leave Amsterdam with a London/Paris interchange situation, as has been noted], as well as "spoiling" the arrival for tourists - who expect to arrive somewhere a bit more "historically" central. Given that Amsterdam is a lot smaller than London, and it does have a station in what is the obvious historic centre, then it would be a pity for visitors not to arrive there; with London, the "centre" is (or centres are) much bigger, with no one obviously "most central" station, so the situation is different and several of the main stations are equally good (or not) as a tourist arrival.
By the way - I assume that Amsterdam sleepers will also end up at Zuid then?