No. Most definitely not.Hi,
Trying to find out if a driver is allowed to use colour corrective lenses like they would distance corrective lenses?
I pass the colourblind test easily with the lenses.
Thanks in advance
No because diversion routes are not ETCS.Question: with the ECML Getting the whole ETCS upgrade because of the Azumas. And i know normally a you cannot become a driver if your colourblind. Once the entire ecml Is upgraded couldn't you technically become a driver. If your red green colourblind as it would be in cab signalling. Same as HS2. As LU use ATO (Similar) and I know there's the odd rare colourblind person driving tubes. So wouldn't it be possible
What about HS2. They won't be using diversionary routesNo because diversion routes are not ETCS.
No, they will be using regular mainline for many miles....What about HS2. They won't be using diversionary routes
Any length. So... Not anytime soon I'm assumingHow long is a piece of string?
2.1.8 Colour vision - General (for new and existing drivers applying for a driving licence)
2.1.8.1 Railway undertakings shall not permit train drivers with defective colour vision to drive trains on Network Rail managed infrastructure.
2.1.5 Train dispatch and shunting – colour vision
2.1.5.1 Infrastructure managers and railway undertakings shall not permit persons to be involved in train dispatch or shunting with defective colour vision if the work requires the differentiation of colours.
Imagine this on a sunny day with sunlight impeding it.Yeah I guess so. I was hoping something like merseyrail MML or BML Has etcs in the future as that would of given me a chance. Has anyone got a pic of a signal that I may struggle with as I'm colourblind
Road vehicles present a totally different set of circumstances. Drivers of trains approach signals at speeds where their first view of them can't determine the aspect by position which is what colur impaired motorists have to do. Indeed, traffic lights sometimes even have the word 'stop' on the red light. A train travels at at speed where the stopping distance can be much longer than first sight, - and that is without heavy rain, snow or even fog. Then there's the consequences of not taking appropriate action in time, which can involve the safety of hundreds of passengers on the train that doesn't stop alone, plus persons on/in whatever it might collide with.... Colour blind people can drive cars and they have the same issues with traffic lights so sometimes I think you have to see what adjustments can be made. People with poor eyesight are allowed to wear corrective lenses so I don't see how this different? ...
Much of pilots' visual input is of things within the cockpit which can be within the range of corrected eyesight, plus a large part of flying activities is now automated on commercial flying.... Sorry as a disclaimer to OP it is unlikely this will be changed, laser eye surgery still isn't accepted at a number of TOCs but pilots can have it??
I am surprised there haven't been legal challenges as they perclude a number of people who "with reasonable adjustments" could meet the standards.
(...) so sometimes I think you have to see what adjustments can be made. People with poor eyesight are allowed to wear corrective lenses so I don't see how this different?
Sorry as a disclaimer to OP it is unlikely this will be changed, laser eye surgery still isn't accepted at a number of TOCs
Colour blind people can drive cars and they have the same issues with traffic lights (...) but pilots can have it??
As far as I’m aware, the TOC/FOC isn’t required to foot the cost of a second pair of glasses. Maybe some do, but mine certainly doesn’t. I tried my hand at getting sunglasses paid for and managed to get a voucher for some of the cost of glasses and sunglasses, plus an eye test, but I got the impression that’s as much as I’ll get (I don’t think it’s unreasonable since I can’t wear the issued sunglasses and will require polarised lenses ).' You also have to consider everything else that comes along with an employee having glasses. eg. The TOC must provide a second, spare set of glasses. The TOC needs to swallow that cost.
How do you know they do?So I what I really don't get (and this sounds like a contradiction) but why do colourblind people still apply to become train drivers if it's not possible. And so it is possible to become a driver with corrected colour glasses but has to meet a certain standard.