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LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

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All of the above already posted.
Yes, however two people can write a post at the sane time and then phone reception means it can take a while to post from a moving train re issues with BN12 to answer the OPs question of why the set swap.
 
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Yes, however two people can write a post at the sane time and then phone reception means it can take a while to post from a moving train re issues with BN12 to answer the OPs question of why the set swap.
Wasn't saying it was a problem, merely for future reference for people reading the thread.
 

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I would suggest all bets are off as to what will work what tomorrow - major disruption for the rest of today due to damaged overhead wires in Biggleswade area according to LNER Twitter feed.
 

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I would suggest all bets are off as to what will work what tomorrow - major disruption for the rest of today due to damaged overhead wires in Biggleswade area according to LNER Twitter feed.
Quite - as I'm doing S07 tomorrow I am slightly anxious! Fingers crossed for a 91.
 

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To my knowledge at this time;

101 on Y84 1202 ex YRK has terminated at SVG approx 1745.

109 on E17 1330 ex EDB has terminated at PBO approx 1740.

119 is heading to NL ECS ex Babworth loop.

130 (reported to have stock issues) whereabouts unknown, was D02 0630 KGX-LDS earlier and was quoted as doing Y22 (what was that working?) - normal return working for that set A49 1916 LDS-KGX showing as cancelled.
 

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To my knowledge at this time;

101 on Y84 1202 ex YRK has terminated at SVG approx 1745.

109 on E17 1330 ex EDB has terminated at PBO approx 1740.

119 is heading to NL ECS ex Babworth loop.

130 (reported to have stock issues) whereabouts unknown, was D02 0630 KGX-LDS earlier and was quoted as doing Y22 (what was that working?) - normal return working for that set A49 1916 LDS-KGX showing as cancelled.
101 apparently being dragged by 67028 on 1Z99 (though I can't find it)

130 should still be at Neville Hill with 5A49, 1A49 & 5Y22 cancelled.

109 is now working 1F17 1800 PBO to LDS relief
 

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101 apparently being dragged by 67028 on 1Z99 (though I can't find it)

130 should still be at Neville Hill with 5A49, 1A49 & 5Y22 cancelled.

109 is now working 1F17 1800 PBO to LDS relief

Ta.

See what occurs over the next few hours.

Morning could be fun as my move to get to S07 is Y00 which in theory is the same train.

Emphasis on in theory
 

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Ta.

See what occurs over the next few hours.

Morning could be fun as my move to get to S07 is Y00 which in theory is the same train.

Emphasis on in theory
I could see a service from Leeds forming S07 potentially.
 

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See what happens.

Hopefully, in the interests of guaranteeing socially distanced seating as far as possible, efforts will be made to get the booked type of train on as many workings as possible tomorrow.

One wonders, given the requirement for social distancing, how order of priority will be determined for northbound trains from King's Cross to Leeds / Newcastle / Edinburgh in the morning if numbers of passengers are unable to leave London tonight.

Could a situation arise where people booked on early morning northbound departures from King's Cross are denied access to give priority to people who weren't able to travel today?
 

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See what happens.

Hopefully, in the interests of guaranteeing socially distanced seating as far as possible, efforts will be made to get the booked type of train on as many workings as possible tomorrow.

One wonders, given the requirement for social distancing, how order of priority will be determined for northbound trains from King's Cross to Leeds / Newcastle / Edinburgh in the morning if numbers of passengers are unable to leave London tonight.

Could a situation arise where people booked on early morning northbound departures from King's Cross are denied access to give priority to people who weren't able to travel today?
I doubt there will be many who choose to defer travel to today. Most will take the coach or Avanti to Manchester and TPE onwards.

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91119 should end up at York tonight it appears we're in luck!
 
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With 101 having lost its pan and damaged overheads south of Biggleswade, I wouldn’t make too many plans for tomorrow, I understand confidence is low that the wires will be fixed by the morning
 

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122 and 128 gone with 90035 to Rectory Junction Total sidings near Nottingham this afternoon from Leicester
 

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With 101 having lost its pan and damaged overheads south of Biggleswade, I wouldn’t make too many plans for tomorrow, I understand confidence is low that the wires will be fixed by the morning
LNER told me on twitter that it should be fixed by tomorrow morning. Do you know better?
 

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3/9/20:

91130 + BN12 + 82212
5A49 1825 XNL - LDS
1A49 1916 LDS - KGX
1N35 2200 KGX - YRK

91119 + BN15 + 82214
5A02 0500 XNL - LDS
1A02 0530 LDS - KGX
1S07 0800 KGX - EDB
1E17 1330 EDB - KGX
1D28 1833 KGX - BDQ
5D28 2146 BDQ - XNL

91109 + BN17 + 82225
5A04 0513 XNL - LDS
1A04 0605 LDS - KGX
1N81 0906 KGX - YRK
1Y84 1202 YRK - KGX
1N87 1506 KGX - YRK
1Y90 1802 YRK - KGX
5Y90 2103 KGX - XGD

XNL - Neville Hill
XGD - Bounds Green
BDQ - Bradford Forster Square
 
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3/9/20:

91130 + BN12 + 82212
5A49 1825 XNL - KGX
1A49 1916 LDS - KGX
1N35 2200 KGX - YRK

91119 + BN15 + 82214
5A02 0500 XNL - LDS
1A02 0530 LDS - KGX
1S07 0800 KGX - EDB
1E17 1330 EDB - KGX
1D28 1833 KGX - BDQ
5D28 2146 BDQ - XNL

91109 + BN17 + 82225
5A04 0513 XNL - LDS
1A04 0605 LDS - KGX
1N81 0906 KGX - YRK
1Y84 1202 YRK - KGX
1N87 1506 KGX - YRK
1Y90 1802 YRK - KGX
5Y90 2103 KGX - XGD

XNL - Neville Hill
XGD - Bounds Green
BDQ - Bradford Forster Square
So is 91119 due on the york stoppers tomorrow?
 

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3/9/20:

91130 + BN12 + 82212
5A49 1825 XNL - KGX
1A49 1916 LDS - KGX
1N35 2200 KGX - YRK

91119 + BN15 + 82214
5A02 0500 XNL - LDS
1A02 0530 LDS - KGX
1S07 0800 KGX - EDB
1E17 1330 EDB - KGX
1D28 1833 KGX - BDQ
5D28 2146 BDQ - XNL

91109 + BN17 + 82225
5A04 0513 XNL - LDS
1A04 0605 LDS - KGX
1N81 0906 KGX - YRK
1Y84 1202 YRK - KGX
1N87 1506 KGX - YRK
1Y90 1802 YRK - KGX
5Y90 2103 KGX - XGD

XNL - Neville Hill
XGD - Bounds Green
BDQ - Bradford Forster Square
Thanks - so looks like yesterdays disruption resolved then, and 91s out as per scehdule.
 

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3/9/20:

91130 + BN12 + 82212
5A49 1825 XNL - KGX
1A49 1916 LDS - KGX
1N35 2200 KGX - YRK

91119 + BN15 + 82214
5A02 0500 XNL - LDS
1A02 0530 LDS - KGX
1S07 0800 KGX - EDB
1E17 1330 EDB - KGX
1D28 1833 KGX - BDQ
5D28 2146 BDQ - XNL

91109 + BN17 + 82225
5A04 0513 XNL - LDS
1A04 0605 LDS - KGX
1N81 0906 KGX - YRK
1Y84 1202 YRK - KGX
1N87 1506 KGX - YRK
1Y90 1802 YRK - KGX
5Y90 2103 KGX - XGD

XNL - Neville Hill
XGD - Bounds Green
BDQ - Bradford Forster Square
Presumably 5A49 1825 is XNL - LDS?
 

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I guess that, besides their 3 regular diagrams, we will get used to the 91's being substituted for Azuma's to Leeds/York fairly frequently?
Couldn't tell you I'm afraid, only six sets are being kept I believe so I think their use will be minimal unfortunately.
 

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I guess that, besides their 3 regular diagrams, we will get used to the 91's being substituted for Azuma's to Leeds/York fairly frequently?
7 sets have been retained, and it’s looking like from October 5th, we will see all York stoppers aside from the 11:06/14:02 return, booked 225 workings. The morning Skipton and the evening Bradford turns will be 225s also, and a few Leeds workings.
 

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I guess that, besides their 3 regular diagrams, we will get used to the 91's being substituted for Azuma's to Leeds/York fairly frequently?
There's only 7 Mk4 sets left, so it'll probably be quite a rare occasion to see a set swap. And given the rather poor reliability of the 91s (there was one day a few weeks ago where only 4 out of the 12 locos that LNER still have were available for use), if anything I would expect more of the reverse to happen.
 

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Modern railways magazine quotes six MK4 sets being retained, although I acknowledge there are currently seven with BN26 temporarily stored at Ferme Park with 91111.
 

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Modern railways magazine quotes six MK4 sets being retained, although I acknowledge there are currently seven with BN26 temporarily stored at Ferme Park with 91111.

The exact number is slightly fluid at the moment depending on the outcomes of the future LNER timetable plans which are still being worked through as part of an industry planning group. Post Covid demands will also have a bearing on this.
 

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7 sets have been retained, and it’s looking like from October 5th, we will see all York stoppers aside from the 11:06/14:02 return, booked 225 workings. The morning Skipton and the evening Bradford turns will be 225s also, and a few Leeds workings.
I know the 1515/1745 lds to KX are going over to 225s as I've booked Tues 6th and a few others
 
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