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"Clap For Carers" is back again

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Don't know if anyone has mentioned but it is now called "clap for heroes" based on what I've heard on TalkRadio. A bit nauseating, isn't it?
 
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Clap for an institution that is messing up our freedoms, jobs, and everything else. An institution that had all summer to beef things up. And did diddly squat, apart from the TikToks. An institution that was and still is actively telling people to stay away. Nope. Might give it a boo or two though.
I think your opinion is rather uncaring and unnecessarily insulting to the work of all the doctors, nurses and other staff who have had a terrible year. I understand the reasoning and I won't be going out to clap on Friday but is saying all this necessary?
 

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I think your opinion is rather uncaring and unnecessarily insulting to the work of all the doctors, nurses and other staff who have had a terrible year. I understand the reasoning and I won't be going out to clap on Friday but is saying all this necessary?
It wasn’t aimed at the front line workers. More the management, the institute itself and the NHS procurement (this especially).
It’s also hardly been a terrible “year”. March and April were said to be grim. May to late September hospitals were all but deserted.
 

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I was sent a text today in which it said the organisers stated......

"We are bringing back the 8pm applause, in our 3rd lockdown I hope it can lift the spirit, of all of us. Carers teacher, homeschooling parents, those who shield and ALL who is pushing through this difficult time! Please join & share!"
#clapforheroes

Good luck to them and if just 1 person sat at home depressed or feeling lonely/struggling gets a bit of lift from this or manages a conversation with a neighbour then it's worked.

(Mods feel free to tidy the quote, came off a text so can't link it)
 

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I think your opinion is rather uncaring and unnecessarily insulting to the work of all the doctors, nurses and other staff who have had a terrible year. I understand the reasoning and I won't be going out to clap on Friday but is saying all this necessary?
I’m sure doctors, nurses and other key workers are greatly affected by a comment on a train fourm.
 

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I think your opinion is rather uncaring and unnecessarily insulting to the work of all the doctors, nurses and other staff who have had a terrible year. I understand the reasoning and I won't be going out to clap on Friday but is saying all this necessary?

The quoted poster does have a point though, albeit more directed towards the leadership and governance of the health service rather than the front-line staff.

At best there's some presentational issues, as there hasn't been much evidence of capacity having been built up or preparations made. If a government body wishes us to put our lives on hold on their account then they need to elocute a pretty solid case, and (IMV) they haven't really done that. Perhaps more so than last time round, as in March we never really knew what was the actual purpose of the lockdown, whereas this time it seems pretty clearly centred upon NHS capacity.

ISTR there was an exchange a little while back between Jeremy Hunt and a rather bad-tempered Chris Whitty regarding NHS capacity. It's absolutely not unreasonable to ask the question whether the hundreds of billions spent on lockdown, not to mention the consequential negative costs imposed on livelihoods and wellbeing, could have been better invested in boosting NHS capacity. It's possible that the answer to that question is that is wasn't viable, in which case let's see the evidence, but it's certainly not unreasonable to ask the question.
 
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I didn't do it last time and won't this time.

It's for middle class people to feel self-righteously good about "doing something" when they're doing f all of any consequence. They can also subtly shame their non-conformist neighbours who are sensible enough to see through the stupid charade. I hate it.

It reminds me a little of the two minutes' hate in 1984. Brainwashing for the plebs.
 

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I was sent a text today in which it said the organisers stated......

"We are bringing back the 8pm applause, in our 3rd lockdown I hope it can lift the spirit, of all of us. Carers teacher, homeschooling parents, those who shield and ALL who is pushing through this difficult time! Please join & share!"
#clapforheroes
That’s what the “organiser” said on Twitter. The replies to it are a thing of beauty
 

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What about "Cash For Carers/Heroes", but then again I wonder how many carers/heroes are mates with high up conservative party members?
 

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What about "Cash For Carers/Heroes", but then again I wonder how many carers/heroes are mates with high up conservative party members?

Clap for carers; cash for cronies
 

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It's for middle class people to feel self-righteously good about "doing something" when they're doing f all of any consequence.

This sums it up absolutely perfectly. As you say, it does nothing in practice. Actions speak louder than words, or in this case claps.

The shaming part sums it up.
 

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It's for middle class people to feel self-righteously good about "doing something" when they're doing f all of any consequence. They can also subtly shame their non-conformist neighbours who are sensible enough to see through the stupid charade. I hate it.
Nothing quite like being a little class warrior is there?

More seriously, some vacuous woman thinks she's in charge of this whole charade. The ultimate in virtue signalling.
 

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Nothing quite like being a little class warrior is there?

More seriously, some vacuous woman thinks she's in charge of this whole charade. The ultimate in virtue signalling.

I do pick up a scent of looking down with it. It’s a pretty good bet that few NHS staff would label themselves as heroes, and don’t need to be patronised and debased by having such a puerile label applied on to them.
 

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I do pick up a scent of looking down with it. It’s a pretty good bet that few NHS staff would label themselves as heroes, and don’t need to be patronised and debased by having such a puerile label applied on to them.
I don't think it's a class thing, though. Virtue signalling is the best way of describing it, with the smug self satisfaction some seem to get from that explaining the "looking down" you mention.
 

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I don't think it's a class thing, though. Virtue signalling is the best way of describing it, with the smug self satisfaction some seem to get from that explaining the "looking down" you mention.

Yes you might be right; perhaps class is the wrong word. It’s a certain type of person for sure, though.
 

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The lady who started it I think wanted it stopped after 10 weeks. Nice idea, but that was enough
 

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I’m wondering whether the return of the clapping is in part orchestrated by the Government or SPI-B (the pandemic behavioural science committee) to try and harness the ‘community cohesion’ feel of the first lockdown and drive up compliance through increased focus on the NHS. It’s funny how it’s just re-emerged after Annemarie Plas was so keen to end it last time.
 

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The lady who started it I think wanted it stopped after 10 weeks. Nice idea, but that was enough

She did and wanted some sort of annual clap. Then she instigated it again today, she must have missed being on the news about it.
 

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Oh lovely, I imagine most people won't do it as it'll be dark and if you can't be seen clapping what is the point?....

I look forward to our passive aggressive neighbourhood facebook group subtly questioning where everybody was and roll calling those brave souls who stepped out to calp
Whilst conveniently ignoring that stepping outside your home without reasonable excuse AND congregating in groups of 2 or more is strictly verboten in 2021 Britain.
Name & shame the covidiots on their own Facebook feeds, I say !!!
<kidding>
 

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I still sit by my promise that on the day Boris heads back to the palace (which I think is highly likely to be this year), I intend to be at the road-side somewhere rubbing it in.
I still sit by my promise that on the day Boris heads back to the palace (which I think is highly likely to be this year), I intend to be at the road-side somewhere rubbing it in.
Lets hope the Queen has the sword nicely sharpened then
 

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Whilst conveniently ignoring that stepping outside your home without reasonable excuse AND congregating in groups of 2 or more is strictly verboten in 2021 Britain.
Name & shame the covidiots on their own Facebook feeds, I say !!!
<kidding>

Groups of more than 2. Two is fine.
 

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The lady who started it I think wanted it stopped after 10 weeks. Nice idea, but that was enough
But now she's starting it again. I don't doubt the intention was well meant, but it's really not going down well.
 
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