Northern Unit Refurbishments

[jonesy3001]

Just the cascaded EMR 156s and WMT 323s to be refurbished next and any other units in the near future but if northern are after more CAF units, could start seeing some of the old order starting to disappear.

 

[py_megapixel]

Just the cascaded EMR 156s and WMT 323s to be refurbished next and any other units in the near future but if northern are after more CAF units, could start seeing some of the old order starting to disappear.

I can't see the cascaded 323 refurb being much beyond the interior repaint plus presumably new vinyls and seat covers. Everything else has already been done under WMT.

 

[OTRail]

Any word as to whether the EMR 158s will move to Northern?

 

[RHolmes]

Any word as to whether the EMR 158s will move to Northern?

They’re not being replaced at EMR and will still be required due to the delayed transfer of the Liverpool route

 

[jonesy3001]

I can't see the cascaded 323 refurb being much beyond the interior repaint plus presumably new vinyls and seat covers. Everything else has already been done under WMT.

The 323s will be repainted, here's a pic of 234 rubbed down before being repainted into northern colours.
Credit to Anthony.

 

[py_megapixel]

The 323s will be repainted, here's a pic of 234 rubbed down before being repainted into northern colours.
Credit to Anthony.

Fair enough

 

[OTRail]

They’re not being replaced at EMR and will still be required due to the delayed transfer of the Liverpool route

They are being replaced - a replacement just hasn’t been confirmed yet. Also the route is staying with EMR, there’s no “transfer delay”.

 

[northernchris]

150206 now has the new seat covers

 

[RHolmes]

They are being replaced - a replacement just hasn’t been confirmed yet. Also the route is staying with EMR, there’s no “transfer delay”.

The routes staying with EMR for the foreseeable, not permanently or beyond 2023

 

[OTRail]

The routes staying with EMR for the foreseeable, not permanently or beyond 2023

Where has this been announced?

 

[3973EXL]

VAR 06/02

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0808 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

STP 06/02

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1404 Newton Heath T.M.D. to Crewe C.S. (L&Nwr Site)
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1115 Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D. to Heaton T&R.S.M.D.

STP 07/02

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1126 Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D to Newton Heath T.M.D.
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1054 Heaton T&R.S.M.D. to Bristol Barton Hill W.R.D.

STP 08/02

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1020 Eastleigh Trsmd to Heaton T&R.S.M.D.

WTT 06/02

0259 NH - Wolverton ran
Realtime Trains - 536P 0259 Newton Heath T.M.D. to Wolverton Centre Sidings

 

[1D53]

158853 coming back from Bristol
158844 going to Bristol
150203 & 150223 Wolverton to Neville Hill and then 150223 Neville Hill to Newton Heath

 

[jonesy3001]

158853 coming back from Bristol
158844 going to Bristol
150203 & 150223 Wolverton to Neville Hill and then 150223 Neville Hill to Newton Heath

Wouldn't it be better dropping 223 off at newton heath before going to neville hill

 

[RHolmes]

Where has this been announced?

Internally to the company it was awarded directly to (last update was Dec)

 

[skyhigh]

170461 has the new covers.

 

[superkev]

158853 coming back from Bristol
158844 going to Bristol
150203 & 150223 Wolverton to Neville Hill and then 150223 Neville Hill to Newton Heath

I didnt know 150223 had returned to Wolverton.

 

[Neptune]

Well after 16 years, Serco Abellio lilac & blue is soon to be no more.

With the exception of the 153’s that are still about!

 

[3973EXL]

5E12 Barton Hill - HT dep 1100

 

[1D53]

I didnt know 150223 had returned to Wolverton.

Went down 27th so short visit.

 

[superkev]

Went down 27th so short visit.

Thanks, wonder which 150 went down to Wolverton today. K

 

[3973EXL]

Ref 150223 - posts from 30/01

Todays Newton heath to Wolverton running 150???

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0259 Newton Heath T.M.D. to Wolverton Centre Sidings

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Presumably warrenty works.
K

Possibly 150223

 

[317 forever]

Just the cascaded EMR 156s and WMT 323s to be refurbished next and any other units in the near future but if northern are after more CAF units, could start seeing some of the old order starting to disappear.

Are the EMR 156s going to replace the 153s or provide for service or allow more trains to run as double units?

 

[jonesy3001]

Are the EMR 156s going to replace the 153s or provide for service or allow more trains to run as double units?

Yes they are replacing the 153s

 

[317 forever]

Yes they are replacing the 153s

Thank you for the confirmation. While I admit I don't know which routes tend to be 153, I realise that these 156s are likely to interwork with existing 156s anyway.

 

[Liverpool 507]

Thank you for the confirmation. While I admit I don't know which routes tend to be 153, I realise that these 156s are likely to interwork with existing 156s anyway.

I’m not so sure about the 156/9s. If they can’t work with EMRs 156/4s then I assume they won’t be able to work with Northern’s 156/4s?

 

[LowLevel]

I’m not so sure about the 156/9s. If they can’t work with EMRs 156/4s then I assume they won’t be able to work with Northern’s 156/4s?

They're booked an overhaul to Northern's standards, theoretically this year.

 

[Domh245]

I’m not so sure about the 156/9s. If they can’t work with EMRs 156/4s then I assume they won’t be able to work with Northern’s 156/4s.

They can be modified so that they do though, particularly if they're going to be around for a while

 

[Liverpool 507]

They're booked an overhaul to Northern's standards, theoretically this year.

Ah fair enough. I assume they’ll all be Newton Heath based?

 

[LowLevel]

Ah fair enough. I assume they’ll all be Newton Heath based?

Not a clue - I'm in the East Mids

 

[Liverpool 507]

Not a clue - I'm in the East Mids

No worries!

I’d highly doubt Neville Hill taking any on.