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Welsh Assembly Government still planning Cambrian hourly for 2011
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Beveridges
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9 months ago I applied for the Trainee Drivers position with ATW for Pwllheli and Machynlleth. They advertised at these depots so that they have the extra drivers required for the hourly service.
I passed the selection process for the positions at Pwllheli but got put "on hold" because they won't start any driver training until they have recieved the grant from the WAG.
I am extremely frustrated.
There is no way that the hourly service will come in 2011 if the ERTMS has been delayed until February. It will be at least 2012. They will only start training the extra drivers required for the hourly service once they have got the grant from the government (and once the ERTMS is working), and the Driver training will take a further 12 months.
I passed the selection process for the positions at Pwllheli but got put "on hold" because they won't start any driver training until they have recieved the grant from the WAG.
I am extremely frustrated.
There is no way that the hourly service will come in 2011 if the ERTMS has been delayed until February. It will be at least 2012. They will only start training the extra drivers required for the hourly service once they have got the grant from the government (and once the ERTMS is working), and the Driver training will take a further 12 months.
Gareth Marston
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much speculating and little hard fact!
merlodlliw
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I feel for you, as the job will be the highest paid semi private employment in your area.Anyhow the hourly service promised for 2011 is now impossible
Today we have details of a merger of three statutory WAG bodies, Countryside Council for Wales, environment agency & forestry commission.
Many duplications take place between the three, so WAG is looking for 25% saving from each for a start. Transport is not a sacred cow, I fully expect cuts from the Anglesey twins, I also note the Minister is delaying answers to written questions from A.Ms about the future of the WAG express which is totally funded by WAG.
The Planner
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Why would it be impossible ?? nothing to stop ATW introducing more services in the middle of the timetable by the spot bid process.
merlodlliw
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Of course they could, but I do not see it occurring in 2011 with the never ending farce. Plus Politics want a big lead up to a set date,which they can not get.
A lot of questions are going to be asked this weekend at Aber over this promise of failing to deliver by Net Rail , & the promises made by the Minister over this hourly service.
I would love to be a fly on the wall at the ATW & Net Rail stands
No doubt Sarpa will also take this opportunity to do some lobbying.(Plaid Annual Conference Fri/Sun Aberystwyth)
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fairlie
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And we trust all the delegates will be travelling there by train? 
merlodlliw
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And we trust all the delegates will be travelling there by train?
Good point, they could run a special Gerald or have built a special airfield for
Wagair
No doubt they will all fit into the Ministerial cars. Or claim the £1 a mile mileage allowance A .Ms get.
Beveridges
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While its definetely going to be delayed into 2012 (maybe even 2013 with this never ending farce), does anyone think theres a possibility that the hourly service may be cancelled altogether?
merlodlliw
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As there will be a new WAG from next May,who knows, cracks are appearing in the present set up today,see the other thread,
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Gareth Marston
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Always has been possible to run more trains over line or sections of anyway but not hourly coalface the whole length. Nothing stopping them but themselves.
Beveridges
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The WAG website is still saying 2011 but it's absolutely impossible now even for December 2011
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/transpor...Ls2GSFsjcNt1GyB1pq5ynGCyQQ!1374926234?lang=en
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/transpor...Ls2GSFsjcNt1GyB1pq5ynGCyQQ!1374926234?lang=en
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Gareth Marston
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Arriva Trains Wales In house magazine is saying that the glare issue on the in cab displays on the 158's will be resolved by Feb 11. My understanding is that this is the only real issue preventing the full implementation of ERTMS and hence the reinstated capacity being usable. Assuming of course the Comprehensive Spending Review doesn't force NR to bin ERTMS!
The Planner
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It will get switched on. If it is sorted by Feb like ATW claim then Id be suprised if you didnt get some sort of increase of services by the summer.
merlodlliw
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We shall see, I also note not a word on the WAG list about Wrexham/Chester double tracking? where are we on this planner
Is WAG2 planned to start/terminate in Pwllheli?
The Planner
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No, its another Holyhead Cardiff. As for Wrexham to Salltney, its still in the same place as before, the WAG havent said the money put aside for it has gone and NR are still working up the scheme plans.
brianthegiant
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February 2011, is that how long it takes to tint a few windscreens.. 
merlodlliw
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Only when a WAG Minister lives there
like Holyhead--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Thanks Planner, its gone too quiet I have ensured a few A.Ms have asked questions, waiting for answers
Beveridges
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What makes Arriva Trains Wales think that the glare issues will be resolved by February? Have they come up with a solution yet?
merlodlliw
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It as to be resolved sometime, Gareth Marston is well in the know about this subject. However I don't see the hourly service start before Dec 2011 at the soonest, my opinion of course.
Beveridges
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Hows the ERTMS project progressing now? Is Feb 11 still the date that it is on target for, or have the problems delayed it even further yet again?
The Planner
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Top end went live last week, Id expect the rest to get comissioned in the Feb half term.
merlodlliw
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We shall know on the 17th November, if the hourly service will commence & if the double track at Wrexham may be scrapped, my A.M asked the Minister this question, response below
WRITTEN ASSEMBLY QUESTION
FOR ANSWER BY THE MINISTER FOR
THE ECONOMY & TRANSPORT
ON 25 OCTOBER 2010
Mark Isherwood (North Wales): With the GRIP report being undertaken by Network Rail likely to be 9 months late in its delivery, what impact does that have on taking the options forward in light of any time limits that the SCIF funding identified for this project may have. (WAQ56635)
Ieuan Wyn Jones: Capital expenditure for future years is being considered in light of the Spending Review announcement. Budgets will be set out in the Assembly Governments Draft Budget on 17 November.
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See the thread
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The Planner
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You'll get some extra services, I cant see it being hourly all day.
Is there anything to stop this happening in the May timetable? Obviously it isn't happening in December's (we can see that on National Rail Enquiries), but it'd be great if there was an 08:27 Shrewsbury > Aberystwyth that connected with WCRC's Cambrian steam service at Machynlleth next summer.
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Nothing to stop it happening the day they switch the rest on if they were so inclined. ATW can just spot bid the services. The May 11 timetable is offered to the TOCs next week so its far too late to get them in that way.
Gareth Marston
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Theirs never been anything stopping more trains apart from cold feet on the Cambrian, ATW claim an 8% increase on 09 for the Cambrian so much for the recession dampening demand.
Beveridges
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We would be lucky if we get the hourly service at all if you read "ERTMS live and working" thread. Also they have to training new drivers which takes about 12 months, so I'd expect it to be about December 2011 timetable change if it is to happen
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