The "Look him in the eye" adverts

[liam456]

A new “softer” campaign entitled “making a difference” will launch this week across media, with slogans such as “every video call is making a difference, by meeting friends virtually we’re helping stop the spread of COVID19”.

I've seen these around Glasgow, and I do much prefer them to the horrible previous tactics. Surely positive reinforcement would always be better than the negative shaming of before?

 

[Horizon22]

A new “softer” campaign entitled “making a difference” will launch this week across media, with slogans such as “every video call is making a difference, by meeting friends virtually we’re helping stop the spread of COVID19”.

I saw a TV ad for this yesterday - was a much better tone I thought with a "togetherness" aspect. As my partner remarked, feels much less like they are trying to shame people into action. The advert was more along the lines of doing that one small thing can make a difference.

 

[Eyersey468]

I'm glad the look them in the eye adverts are finished, frankly I think the way the government was trying to scare people into compliance was disgusting, they should be ashamed. I along with a number of others made formal complaints about them, not that I expect it will do any good.

 

[Skimpot flyer]

I'm glad the look them in the eye adverts are finished, frankly I think the way the government was trying to scare people into compliance was disgusting, they should be ashamed. I along with a number of others made formal complaints about them, not that I expect it will do any good.

Now being replaced by ads foreshadowing a Universal Basic Income for those left jobless after furlough stops?

 

[Ediswan]

Now being replaced by ads foreshadowing a Universal Basic Income for those left jobless after furlough stops?

The traffic in the second ad appears to be driving on the right. The bus door is on the right. The bus is to the left of the cyclist.

 

[takno]

Now being replaced by ads foreshadowing a Universal Basic Income for those left jobless after furlough stops?

They clearly appear to be foreign. Much as I'd love a UBI, this would be a fairly toxic time to introduce one, and a surprising government to do it.

Up our way they seem to have been replaced with a poster carrying the unsourced claim that "every masked person really does help prevent spread" and the entirely unmotivational and unjustifiable tagline "let's keep going".

 

[Domh245]

They clearly appear to be foreign. Much as I'd love a UBI, this would be a fairly toxic time to introduce one, and a surprising government to do it.

I'm not sure they are foreign, unless Brighton has declared independence!

They clearly aren't government backed though - the organisation behind them is a workers rights (I think?) campaign group that amongst other issues has set their sights on UBI

 

[kristiang85]

I do see a lot of the irony in a section of the Left wanting to make many workers' jobs untenable/unsustainable so they can promote their vision of UBI to be seriously discussed.

 

[Bantamzen]

I do see a lot of the irony in a section of the Left wanting to make many workers' jobs untenable/unsustainable so they can promote their vision of UBI to be seriously discussed.

That's because the vocal "Left" generally don't represent the workers any more, left wing politics (particularly far left) are very much in the realm of suburban, middle class virtue signallers.

 

[87electric]

Now being replaced by ads foreshadowing a Universal Basic Income for those left jobless after furlough stops?

That, for sure, is where all those left jobless after furlough will end up. That realization when it happens will hit them hard. At that point, just maybe, they'll wish that they had fought harder to fight for their jobs in 2020.
It's just been so predictable but the damage is done now. Lovely bright, shiny posters predicting the future for millions going into poverty. It's sinister.

 

[Eyersey468]

That, for sure, is where all those left jobless after furlough will end up. That realization when it happens will hit them hard. At that point, just maybe, they'll wish that they had fought harder to fight for their jobs in 2020.
It's just been so predictable but the damage is done now. Lovely bright, shiny posters predicting the future for millions going into poverty. It's sinister.

I wonder how many of those were in favour of lockdowns. When the mass redundancies hit those screaming for them will be saying 'if only we had known'

 

[MikeWM]

I do see a lot of the irony in a section of the Left wanting to make many workers' jobs untenable/unsustainable so they can promote their vision of UBI to be seriously discussed.

Also ironic that those who (correctly) rail against 'Universal' Credit due to the petty conditions and hoops attached, are happy to argue for 'Universal' Basic Income, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the 'universal' part will equally end up being nothing of the sort, instead subject to all sorts of sanctions for all sorts of trivial 'offences'.

And then, swiftly and inevitably, it will be tied into compliance with the 'vaccine passport', which will quickly evolve into an all-encompassing Chinese-style social credit system.

 

[Skimpot flyer]

I’ve noticed government messaging on radio stations is now of the ‘let’s keep going’ variety. They emphasise washing of hands when you get home, and periodically throughout the day, I think there’s also mention of keeping space between you and others. But what is noticeable is there is NO mention of masks or face-coverings. Subtle priming of the audience for an announcement on making masks voluntary??? I bloody hope so!

 

[takno]

I’ve noticed government messaging on radio stations is now of the ‘let’s keep going’ variety. They emphasise washing of hands when you get home, and periodically throughout the day, I think there’s also mention of keeping space between you and others. But what is noticeable is there is NO mention of masks or face-coverings. Subtle priming of the audience for an announcement on making masks voluntary??? I bloody hope so!

Massive new adverts on all the bus stops up here saying that masks "really help" cut infections with the "let's keep going" tagline. It all sounds demented to me - like the person in charge of motivational messages is stuck working from home with only a toddler to bounce ideas off

 

[DB]

Massive new adverts on all the bus stops up here saying that masks "really help" cut infections with the "let's keep going" tagline. It all sounds demented to me - like the person in charge of motivational messages is stuck working from home with only a toddler to bounce ideas off

We truly are in a post-truth society. There is no evidence that in practice masks make any difference at all in reducing infections.

 

[Green tractor]

Really? Put one on and try to blow a candle out then think about how far the droplets of water in you breath travel.

 

[DB]

Really? Put one on and try to blow a candle out then think about how far the droplets of water in you breath travel.

Yes, really.

There is no statistical evidence from any country of mask mandates causing any decline in the rate of infections - look at the graphs on Worldometers and see if you can identify which countries imposed mask mandates, and when - you won't be able to tell. In a few there is a slight increase, which may be due to people thinking that masks make them 'safe' so not taking other precautions.

Pretty much every academic study which has concluded that they work has actually been a synthesis of cherry-picked studies from healthcare settings, which are very different to non-medical settings in a number of very significant ways.

 

[Green tractor]

Can you provide some scientific papers which prove they dont reduce the spread?

 

[Huntergreed]

Can you provide some scientific papers which prove they dont reduce the spread?

Asking someone to prove a negative is not possible, and it’s not how science works (can you prove that me driving a blue car instead of a green one does not reduce spread?)

The onus is on you to prove they do work, and so far all studies have either been conducted in clinical, controlled settings or they have shown negligent effect on spread.

This really is off topic though. Are these adverts still even used anymore?

 

[scotrail158713]

Are these adverts still even used anymore?

I don't think they are (the "Look them in the eye and..." ones), or if they are then it's certainly far less than they were. I've certainly not seen any for a while, thankfully.

 

[DB]

Can you provide some scientific papers which prove they dont reduce the spread?

Can you prove that wearing a sombrero doesn't reduce spread?

Can you prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist?

The point (as @Huntergreed makes above) is that it is for those claiming that something is true to prove it, not for others to try to prove a negative (which is often impossible to do).

 

[farleigh]

Really? Put one on and try to blow a candle out then think about how far the droplets of water in you breath travel.

OK so the evidence that masks work is that you cannot blow a candle out whilst wearing one?

 

[Green tractor]

Well it reduces the velocity of what leaves your mouth and nose and means it doesn't travel as far.

 

[DB]

Well it reduces the velocity of what leaves your mouth and nose and means it doesn't travel as far.

That's one theory, but in practice it's clearly not that simple given that there is no evidence that masks actually do reduce spread, despite all the unsubstantiated claims that they do.

 

[Huntergreed]

I see little point in continuing this debate. It’s quite clear that there’s currently little evidence to support masks reducing transmission of sars-cov-2 and, even if they do, I would argue the way in which those with disabilities and genuine exemptions are treated with mask mandates in place is absolutely disgraceful.

Back on topic though. What are the more recent government-backed adverts for COVID like these days? I’ve not seen any in a good while!

 

[Richard Scott]

Back on topic though. What are the more recent government-backed adverts for COVID like these days? I’ve not seen any in a good while!

Just as irritating, now it's "every open window when someone comes to your house to work" or similar and other vomit inducing statements. Better off not having heard any recently. It's cringing now and what's worse is it's more money thrown at this virus by the government which we'll have to pay for. Think it's that thought that irritates me the most.

 

[Yew]

Well it reduces the velocity of what leaves your mouth and nose and means it doesn't travel as far.

So the droplets fall on your trousers rather than your belt buckle...

 

[Green tractor]

So the droplets fall on your trousers rather than your belt buckle...

Basically your not spitting on people, yes.

 

[DB]

Basically your not spitting on people, yes.

Is spitting on people something you normally do, then?

 

[Green tractor]

Is spitting on people something you normally do, then?

You do it when you breathe and talk, small droplets of water are in your breath, and that's how covid spreads, the virus is carried in the droplets