Ah yes forgot RTT would have been my friend, cheersNo. That isn't possible. Aberdeen empties didn't run.
RTT shows
66740+73967 to Fort William
66789+73971 to Inverness
Aberdeen cancelled
Ah yes forgot RTT would have been my friend, cheersNo. That isn't possible. Aberdeen empties didn't run.
RTT shows
66740+73967 to Fort William
66789+73971 to Inverness
Aberdeen cancelled
Yes - which is what firms who take carbon accounting seriously are starting to do. There's a lot of averaging involved, and quite a few assumptions required to make the data manageable, but it's an activity that is already well underway.
I'd say that de minimis non curat lex is already being applied, in what I see at my employer - precisely because drilling down into ever finer detail is counterproductive. But when businesses are having to account not just for their carbon consumption, but also for the role of carbon in their supply chain, being able to have a view does matter.This strikes me as needing a good bit of "de minimis non curat lex" applying to it.
But then of course people want to create jobs for themselves...
That explains why the guard on mine yesterday said they had two extra coaches, looks like the Aberdeen beds tagged on the FW portion and just seen the FW portion with 8 coaches going southbound as well today so i guess they're taking them back south.No. That isn't possible. Aberdeen empties didn't run.
RTT shows
66740+73967 to Fort William
66789+73971 to Inverness
Aberdeen cancelled
CS take over once Lner finish.Who staffs the lounge in the evening - CS or GR?
Which service?No food or drink onboard tonight (again), and of course no prior communication
Sunday 22nd August to Friday 3rd September
Northbound Lowland
London Euston to Glasgow
Due to increased absences of safety critical staff scheduled to operate our train service’s we have had to make amendments to our timetables from Sunday 22nd August to Friday 3rd September 2021. To keep as many of our guests moving as possible in these challenging times, we have taken the decision to join our Glasgow and Edinburgh service’s with a joint termination at Edinburgh Waverly only and not Glasgow Central as booked originally.
Please note that your departure time from London Euston will be 2340 with a planned boarding time of 2230. Your new arrival time into Edinburgh Waverly will be 0722 with rooms available until 0800 – there are no changes to your coach or room number.
There is a very frequent train service between Edinburgh Waverly to Glasgow Central or Queen Street and we have ticket acceptance in place until 0900. ScotRail staff will be aware of these arrangements and your Caledonian Sleeper ticket to travel will be accepted without any additional charge. Glasgow Queen Street station is a 6-minute walk from Glasgow Central and is located on N Hanover Street, G1 2AF.
We are making contact with all guests who have booked directly with us.
Southbound Lowland
Glasgow Central to London Euston
Due to increased absences of safety critical staff scheduled to operate our train service’s we have had to make amendments to our timetables from Sunday 22nd August to Friday 3rd September 2021. To keep as many of our guests moving as possible in these challenging times we have taken the decision to join our Glasgow and Edinburgh service’s with a departure from Edinburgh Waverly only and not Glasgow Central as booked originally.
Sunday 30th August departure time from Edinburgh Waverly will be 2315 with a planned boarding time of 2300 – your arrival time into London Euston remains the same and there are no changes to your coach or room number.
Monday 23rd August to Friday 3rd September departure time from Edinburgh Waverly will be 2340 with a planned boarding time of 2300 – your arrival time into London Euston remains the same and there are no changes to your coach or room number.
For bookings Monday 23rd August to Friday 27th August we have arranged rail travel from Glasgow to Edinburgh on ScotRail services* for the following train services:
*ScotRail have been made aware of these arrangements and your Caledonian Sleeper ticket will be valid to travel on the services stated above without any additional charge. Glasgow Queen Street station is a 6minute walk from Glasgow Central Station and is located on North Hanover Street, G1 2AF.
- 21:05 Crosscountry Service from Glasgow Central, arrives Edinburgh at 22:22
- 21:23 ScotRail Service from Glasgow Central, arrives Edinburgh at 22:50
- 21:45 ScotRail Service from Glasgow Queen Street, arrives Edinburgh at 22:34
- 22:15 ScotRail Service from Glasgow Queen Street, arrives Edinburgh at 23:09
ScotRail trains are running between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley via Bathgate on Sundays, but obviously this assumes ticket acceptance in place andI take it on Sunday 29th you need to walk to Waverley then…
CS take over once Lner finish.
What is SFA?Is there food and drink available (normally) for CS passengers as according to a contributor on the 1st class Lounge Thread LNER are providing SFA at the moment.
Most likely not a saturated fatty acid, but the first word is something similar, possibly 'sweet', and the last likely to be 'all', and I think you can probably guess the middle one!What is SFA?
'Sweet Fanny Adams' , i.e. nothing?Most likely not a saturated fatty acid, but the first word is something similar, possibly 'sweet', and the last likely to be 'all', and I think you can probably guess the middle one!
Presumably Edinburgh has been chosen instead of Glasgow because the platforms at Glasgow Central cannot accommodate a complete train,whilst Edinburgh obviously can be cause it does so every night with the Highlander. When running complete to Edinburgh, does it it still reverse at Carstairs or is that call omitted?Received a text and email this morning to advise that the Glasgow portion of the lowlander will be terminating at and starting from Edinburgh between 29/08 and 03/09 due to continued staff absence. The service disruption page has been updated to reflect:
Service Alterations | Caledonian Sleeper
Find out the most up to date information and service alterations for Caledonian Sleeper services between London and Scotland.www.sleeper.scot
Unsure if this has already been posted - have lost track of what's been said over the last few pages!
Curiously the message refers to Sunday 30th. Whoever proof read it has also left in a couple of greengrocers' apostrophesI take it on Sunday 29th you need to walk to Waverley then…
Perhaps not delay repay unless they arrive late in London, though I’ve found their customer service to be excellent and I imagine anyone inconvenienced would be lent an ear if they wrote.I wonder if they would accept a delay repay claim for any of these nights from Glasgow passengers
Agreed. Besides running the actual trains in question, it’s hard to see how they could have handled this any better than they have.But I have to say in terms of disruption handling it's fullmarx to Caledonian Sleeper this time as not only have they taken an operational decision that covers an entire weeks worth of services but they've gone to the trouble of communicating it and at least putting some arrangements albeit less than ideal in place
Although it's an interesting debate. If the passenger has to spend an extra 2 hours on trains BEFORE their planned train departed (to get to Edinburgh), it may potentially be as, or MORE, inconvenient to said passenger than spending 2 hours EXTRA on the train because it's late.Perhaps not delay repay unless they arrive late in London...
Although it's an interesting debate. If the passenger has to spend an extra 2 hours on trains BEFORE their planned train departed (to get to Edinburgh), it may potentially be as, or MORE, inconvenient to said passenger than spending 2 hours EXTRA on the train because it's late.
In my view Delay Repay would apply.
You can argue that it should apply but if you arrive at or around the time you were supposed to then you weren't, by the way that words work, delayed.In my view Delay Repay would apply.
I don't see how they could legally refuse to.One assumes CS are offering full refunds if it no longer suits peoples' purpose, though?
You can argue that it should apply but if you arrive at or around the time you were supposed to then you weren't, by the way that words work, delayed.
I don't see how they could legally refuse to.
There is also the advantage that Edinburgh involves one less locomotive and presumably driver than Glasgow Central as the loco runs around the train.Presumably Edinburgh has been chosen instead of Glasgow because the platforms at Glasgow Central cannot accommodate a complete train,whilst Edinburgh obviously can be cause it does so every night with the Highlander. When running complete to Edinburgh, does it it still reverse at Carstairs or is that call omitted?
Is there a connection back to Carstairs for anyone who actually wanted to go there?There is also the advantage that Edinburgh involves one less locomotive and presumably driver than Glasgow Central as the loco runs around the train.
If running to/from Edinburgh only, the Lowlander avoids Carstairs and runs direct.
Is there a connection back to Carstairs for anyone who actually wanted to go there?
I was thinking the same thing. The likelihood that someone wants to get to Carstairs at that time in the morning is remote.I'd imagine they would put a taxi on in the extremely unlikely event of anyone actually wanting to get off there. As reservations are compulsory they know where everyone is going.
The first word is sweet, the last is all and the middle word rhymes with duck.What is SFA?
In my view Delay Repay would apply.
Useful if the purpose of your visit to Scotland is track-bashing and your to-do list includes the Wishaw to Holytown spur, as the sleeper connects with the 0737 Carstairs to Garscadden, one of only six daily services to use the spur.I was thinking the same thing. The likelihood that someone wants to get to Carstairs at that time in the morning is remote.
Off topic, but there used to be an hourly service over that from Lanark to somewhere on the Argyle line via Hamilton. There was also talk of the Whifflet terminators being extended in service to Wishaw but that hasn’t happened. Some do, however, do the move empty, e.g. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W96411/2021-08-28/detailed#allox_id=0Useful if the purpose of your visit to Scotland is track-bashing and your to-do list includes the Wishaw to Holytown spur, as the sleeper connects with the 0737 Carstairs to Garscadden, one of only six daily services to use the spur.
Useful if the purpose of your visit to Scotland is track-bashing and your to-do list includes the Wishaw to Holytown spur, as the sleeper connects with the 0737 Carstairs to Garscadden, one of only six daily services to use the spur.