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Thanks 03179 much appreciatedI'll post the allocations in the morning
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Thanks 03179 much appreciatedI'll post the allocations in the morning
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707022 is still with SWR and is currently working the 2011 Shepperton to Waterloo service along with 707024, so you'll probably see it tomorrow.Can anyone confirm the status of 707007, 010 and 022 please. I'm due to be in London tomorrow for couple of hours and hope to nab a ride on these units.
Thanks in advance
707007 and 707010 both definitely no longer with SWR. They were transferred to SE as early as August or even July707022 is still with SWR and is currently working the 2011 Shepperton to Waterloo service along with 707024, so you'll probably see it tomorrow.
707007 and 707010 aren't showing, so either they've already transferred to Southeastern or they've not been in use today (if still with SWR).
Ah, there we go then!707007 and 707010
707007 and 707010 both definitely no longer with SWR. They were transferred to SE as early as August or even July
707007 transferred in April, a search of this forum reveals…707022 is still with SWR and is currently working the 2011 Shepperton to Waterloo service along with 707024, so you'll probably see it tomorrow.
707007 and 707010 aren't showing, so either they've already transferred to Southeastern or they've not been in use today (if still with SWR).
707022 is still with SWR and is currently working the 2011 Shepperton to Waterloo service along with 707024, so you'll probably see it tomorrow.
Go to the TOPS request thread for SE, and RTT for SW, and you’ll find them quicklyMy trip to London is on for today after being postponed last week. I'm looking for allocations for SE units 707007, 010 and 025 and SW unit 707022
Many thanks in advance for any help
707022 is working 05:12 Waterloo to Shepperton, which forms 06:10 Shepperton to Waterloo then every 2 hours from then. So 07:12 Waterloo to Shepperton, 08:11 Shepperton to Waterloo etc...My trip to London is on for today after being postponed last week. I'm looking for allocations for SE units 707007, 010 and 025 and SW unit 707022
Many thanks in advance for any help
If you send #CityBeam to the SE WhatsApp service - 07866002690 it'll detail which trains will run
707022 is working 05:12 Waterloo to Shepperton, which forms 06:10 Shepperton to Waterloo then every 2 hours from then. So 07:12 Waterloo to Shepperton, 08:11 Shepperton to Waterloo etc...
Thanks for all your help tracking down my missing units. Managed to pick them all up a little earlierGo to the TOPS request thread for SE, and RTT for SW, and you’ll find them quickly
From constant monitoring on RTT, these all work peak Shepperton services in the morning, and then two venture to Weybridge after around midday while the others stay on Sheppertons alongside 455s. I wonder if anymore will leave soon, or if the next time they go over to SE it will be all of them together. 5 pairs is probably too much of a microfleet.SWR have 12 at the moment, 707014-024 & 707030. There looks to be diagrams for 5 pairs at the moment (10 units)
Ah thanks.SWR have 12 at the moment, 707014-024 & 707030. There looks to be diagrams for 5 pairs at the moment (10 units)
Thanks for that. Also now seen 005 and 006 on flickr in blue as well, maybe it's only 003 and 004 left in red with SE.Saw 013 yesterday on 6 road at Gillingham Depot in its shiny SET wrap
Jan 2022 MR is reporting that SWR are wanting to keep these 12 beyond their planned transfer to SE in Q1/22 due to ongoing issues with getting 701's into use.SWR have 12 at the moment, 707014-024 & 707030. There looks to be diagrams for 5 pairs at the moment (10 units)
I presume the DfT instructed SWR to release them, but will hopefully now realise the chaos that will ensue if any more are released.Jan 2022 MR is reporting that SWR are wanting to keep these 12 beyond their planned transfer to SE in Q1/22 due to ongoing issues with getting 701's into use.
Hardly surprising and you would have thought that letting any of them go without a clear way forward with the 701's wasn't perhaps the smartest move.
Jan 2022 MR is reporting that SWR are wanting to keep these 12 beyond their planned transfer to SE in Q1/22 due to ongoing issues with getting 701's into use.
Hardly surprising and you would have thought that letting any of them go without a clear way forward with the 701's wasn't perhaps the smartest move.
Given DfT are in control they can dictate what they want and lets be honest they've already had the media kudos for launching the City Beams in SE so they won't be too perturbed if there is a few months delay. Guess the issue is whether SE are also allowing 465/466's to run out of miles as well with no booked slots for overhauls."wanting" isn't the same as actually keeping them. I think the DfT should step in to arbitrate the final decision as SE are just as screwed for stock as SWR and with Networkers going, it has diminished their fleet further.
Why are SE screwed for rolling stock? The stored Networkers are still on lease."wanting" isn't the same as actually keeping them. I think the DfT should step in to arbitrate the final decision as SE are just as screwed for stock as SWR and with Networkers going, it has diminished their fleet further.
Why are SE screwed for rolling stock? The stored Networkers are still on lease.
There will be no new stock for SE for a time yet but given its suggested that SE will be the pilot National Rail Concession so maybe new stock will be incorporated into that. Although its still not clear who will be responsible for rolling stock improvement ie GBR or the Concessionaire.SE have had capacity issues for years and have been crying out for new stock. Even the 707s are nothing more than a stop gap. The Networkers are still on lease but they are also falling to bits and lacking replacement parts. With the 466s not having the PRM mods done is also adds an additional constraint on fleet flexibility. SE are also taking over the Maidstone East service from GTR so its another burden.
COVID has obviously changed the game quite a bit so its anybodys guess as the the future of the franchise. What SE need to do is start the process for a new fleet and be ready in 5yrs rather than sit COVID out for the next year and kick the fleet further down the line.
The mythical 376 cascade will again, add another complication for SE. (if it ever happens)