Bletchleyite
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MK College have just announced all lessons to be moved online. I guess things set up for COVID (e.g. employees having laptops instead of desktops) will really come in handy here.
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Disruption to services - Storm Dudley & Storm Eunice
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Cancellations now also on metro services. Interesting to see what my schedule will be now when I rock up for my middle tomorrow.
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Due to travel on the 1852 Edinburgh - Euston as far as Preston, then on to Manchester. The Avanti website says it's still running but the eight trees on the line north of Carlisle would suggest otherwise. They are also advising folk to abandon travel north of Carlisle. I'm only going today because of the warnings about tomorrow too 
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Unless I'm missing something, I can't think of any way to get south using LNER, TPE aren't an option as they go down the WCML too. No idea if there are buses or what the plan might be. Oh well, better than hitting a dirty great tree at linespeed. If, somehow, the line is clear, is there even stock at Waverley/Polmadie/Craigentinny (do 390s visit?) to run a service?
I could attempt the 1730 LNER by York but there's no ticket acceptance with TPE.
Stay safe all!
.Unless I'm missing something, I can't think of any way to get south using LNER, TPE aren't an option as they go down the WCML too. No idea if there are buses or what the plan might be. Oh well, better than hitting a dirty great tree at linespeed. If, somehow, the line is clear, is there even stock at Waverley/Polmadie/Craigentinny (do 390s visit?) to run a service?
I could attempt the 1730 LNER by York but there's no ticket acceptance with TPE.
Stay safe all!
I've just had a push notification from the NS (Dutch state railways) app advising of service reductions for tomorrow morning and no trains after 2pm.
(I presume, since I'm fairly sure I'm still in Glasgow, that they've simply sent this to everybody with the app installed)
(I presume, since I'm fairly sure I'm still in Glasgow, that they've simply sent this to everybody with the app installed)
That must be incorrect because weather related disruption is only in the UK and the European operators always carry on without incident...
Peterthegreat
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I was in the Netherlands about 15 years ago and the whole network shut down for about 10 hours from around 17.00 due to very strong winds. I was in Utrecht at the time and they opened up shelters to provide emergency food, drink and shelter throughout the night.
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I do get amused when I hear those kind of comments, as travelling around Germany for three weeks in the snowy December of 2012 made me long for British railway weather management! Being stuck on an outdoor platform in a foot of snow for 3 hours in the middle of Bavaria somewhere was probably the low point.
Abellio, though
In terms of the weather warnings, it's not just wind speed which informs things. I believe the red warning has been created because of the high tide expected to coincide with the storm, and as so the added danger of flooding - hence it covering the coastline.
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Ha! Indeed. I think it’s long been Dutch policy to shut down the network in high winds. Notably ScotRail’s adoption of a similar policy has come during Abellio’s time in charge, but I think that’s coincidence. Bitter experience has tended to be the main factor there, perhaps also in the Netherlands.
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It will be either be very fun or very frightening to be travelling along the Dawlish sea wall tomorrow!
In fairness there'll always be variations on the network's ability to cater to the exact nature of the disruption - the mention of snow in particular reminds me that the Danish IC3 DMUs are capable of driving through up to 60 cm (2 ft) of standing snow at normal line speed - but in the case of high winds the potential hazards are much more numerous.
Personally, seeing the photos of the kind of things happening yesterday coupled with the quick service recovery up here this morning has reinforced my opinion that the shut-down was prudent.
There is an FAQ on the BBC site and that does explain some differences but it doesn't cover differences between the BBC forecasts and Met Office weather warnings.
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Southeastern's policy for tomorrow is interesting, cancel loads of trains in the morning (including leaving some stations unserved until 0930) then just run as booked once the wind is meant to really pick up. Still think they're being over optimistic compared to every operator nearby.
I think it just removes any time pressure to worry about evacuating 2K56 before its batteries run out or how you are going to sort alternate transport for the 250 passengers on 1G23 who are stuck at a wayside halt 3 miles down probably blocked lanes. NR and operators can just concentrate on clearly and fixing damaged infrastructure.
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What've you decided to do? Clearly if you rock up for the (almost certainly going to be cancelled) 1852 Avanti WCML service, it'll be pulled and you're potentially likely to be stranded in Edinburgh, maybe for a day or three.
Can you just cancel your Southbound journey or are you returning back to Greater Manchester? Will Avanti cover the cost of your return journey if you travel via the ECML and get chinged notwithstanding that all ToCs are meant to do what they reasonably can to assist passengers in your situation?
Will Edinburgh ticket office endorse your ticket and/or issue a "Back on Track" docket or similar or even provide you with accommodation?
Presume that you might have to wait until the 1852 is officially canned, although that's almost certainly going to be the case.
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Although it may indeed be quite lively along there, the predicted wind direction is WSW, so mainly blowing offshore.
I expect both stock and crews on those routes interwork with Welsh diagrams.
Islineclear3_1
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How many trees will blow onto the line tomorrow in SE land?
I have to work tomorrow and then go into London...
Not true as I was watching an NDR report earlier about cancellations on the railway. Every train was either delayed or cancelled. NDR are a German regional TV channel covering north Germany, including Hamburg
The report I watched didn't seem to be online anymore but here is a link to their distortion coverage of the storm they are experiencing.
NDR Info - Die Nachrichten für den Norden
Die Nachrichten für den Norden: Das ist NDR Info - im Fernsehen, Radio, Web und als App. Außerdem: Kommentare und exklusive Recherchen, Radio im Livestream und aktuelle Videos.
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Traveled from Kings Cross last night, booked on the 18.16 to Newcastle. At about 6pm announced it's canceled use the 18.30 th Edinburgh. Asked a customer support person why it was canceled, , replied due to wind problems. I then ask how a train 12 mins later can be okay, would it just float over the top of the problem, to which the customer person just laughed and said that's a good point I do not know. The good news I will get my 100% fare reimbursed as my total delay was greater than 1 hour.
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I think several members may have missed the sarcasm in @TheEdge 's post (#306).
There would be nothing stopping them from curtailing services to only run within England, just as GWR are doing with their Welsh/SW services. The forecast is bad, but not bad enough to justify a full shutdown.
I would not like to be living on the Somerset levels tonight/tomorrow - good luck to you all there. High spring tide and this is not going to be relaxing. I think perhaps we might not see Bristol-Taunton services for a bit ( remember the last big floods? ). Unfortunately the M5 also runs down there, so us further west might have a few logistics bottlenecks to deal with
Even on the south coast we're looking at 60kt gusts ( 110kmh if you don't speak nautical ) - I don't think the wind is going to be aiming at Dawlish at any point, but it should give the new sea wall a nice workout. We'll find out in about 3 hours, looking at a live wind map...
Edit: noticed there's a combination of yellow & red flood alerts for the entire south coast now ( 1830ish )
Even on the south coast we're looking at 60kt gusts ( 110kmh if you don't speak nautical ) - I don't think the wind is going to be aiming at Dawlish at any point, but it should give the new sea wall a nice workout. We'll find out in about 3 hours, looking at a live wind map...
Edit: noticed there's a combination of yellow & red flood alerts for the entire south coast now ( 1830ish )
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cf111
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The LNER app, where I booked the tickets, now says it's cancelled however RealTimeTrains and the screens in the station are showing "on time", so I suspect I'll need to wait until it's been canned officially. This is the outbound leg of an advance, it's not the end of the world if I'm stuck in Edinburgh tonight but looking at the weather tomorrow I'm wondering if it's better to just can the whole trip.
Edit: now canned. Very helpful Avanti staffer offered LNER to Newcastle or York and then a taxi which I consider fair enough but I personally couldn't face it so I'm in a pal's spare room tonight.
I started in Thurso at 0650 today so it's been a long one but the delay repay will help ease the pain!
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