Southern Class 455 Withdrawal

[J burge]

Hi members Thursday scrap is it the ones that did the tour or is it to early for the loco numbers at moment thanks

 

[Jturner98]

Current GTR 455 status

455801
455802
455803
455804
455805
455807
455808
455809 - Scrapped
455810 - Scrapped
455811
455812
455813
455814
455815
455816 - Scrapped
455817
455818
455819
455820
455821
455822
455823
455824
455825 - Scrapped
455826
455827 - Scrapped
455828
455829
455830
455831 - Scrapped
455832
455833
455834
455835
455836
455837
455838 - Scrapped
455839 - Scrapped
455840
455841
455842
455843
455844
455845
455846

Total Southern units - 46
Total scrapped 8
Total stored - 38

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Very sadly. This is the thing to come.
From the government and rolling stock companies. Enjoying forcing passengers onto rammed 4 or 5 car trains to make a large profit. Whilst causing them to suffer. Also don't know how much Eversholt train leasing will make this year. From 455 Withdrawal.
However a good source of mine has informed me they made 41 million last year. From the 365 demise. Profit for them absolutely shocking. Probably no doubt big back hander to the dft also.

Eversholt are losing lease income unless they are being compensated for early termination of leases which if so doesn't really make sense as I can't see that is saving the operators very much cash as its hardly if they've shut Stewarts Lane and made everyone redundant.

Could try an FOI to DfT who will fob it off and say GTR hold the information and sit outside FOI despite being 100% supported by taxpayer.

 

[JonathanH]

Eversholt are losing lease income unless they are being compensated for early termination of leases which if so doesn't really make sense as I can't see that is saving the operators very much cash as its hardly if they've shut Stewarts Lane and made everyone redundant.

It is somewhat easier to bin off units than to start the consultation process for redundancies. Do Stewarts Lane still do 387s or are they now looked after at Lovers Walk?

Does anyone know how the staff establishments within GTR are affected by the reduced trainfleet? I imagine there is some natural attrition in any case.

 

[fgwrich]

It is somewhat easier to bin off units than to start the consultation process for redundancies. Do Stewarts Lane still do 387s or are they now looked after at Lovers Walk?

Does anyone know how the staff establishments within GTR are affected by the reduced trainfleet? I imagine there is some natural attrition in any case.

I have a feeling that the Gat Ex 387s is still based there. And of course, the VSOE / Belmond is still based out of Stewarts Lane, so there's little chance of a complete closure for now.

 

[jack31439]

It is somewhat easier to bin off units than to start the consultation process for redundancies. Do Stewarts Lane still do 387s or are they now looked after at Lovers Walk?

Does anyone know how the staff establishments within GTR are affected by the reduced trainfleet? I imagine there is some natural attrition in any case.

Stewart's Lane is the home depot for the 377/6/7 fleet, as well as doing some 377/1-5 and 387/2 work to relieve Selhurst and Brighton Lover's Walk. It sees all of these types of units for cleaning and stabling too.

 

[J burge]

Hi members todays 455 to Sims would anybody know which numbers are going on there final run thanks j

 

[03_179]

Hi members todays 455 to Sims would anybody know which numbers are going on there final run thanks j

The two units from the tour

 

[J burge]

The two units from the tour

Thank you sad to see them go today will see them at Newport

 

[Loppylugs]

Anyone know which loco is hauling the consist to Newport today please? No loco on RTT as yet.

 

[3973EXL]

Anyone know which loco is hauling the consist to Newport today please? No loco on RTT as yet.

66703

 

[Andy Pacer]

Current GTR 455 status

455801
455802
455803
455804
455805
455807
455808
455809 - Scrapped
455810 - Scrapped
455811
455812
455813
455814
455815
455816 - Scrapped
455817
455818
455819
455820
455821
455822
455823
455824
455825 - Scrapped
455826
455827 - Scrapped
455828
455829
455830
455831 - Scrapped
455832
455833
455834
455835
455836
455837
455838 - Scrapped
455839 - Scrapped
455840
455841
455842
455843
455844
455845
455846

Total Southern units - 46
Total scrapped 8
Total stored - 38

Thanks for this list, very useful.
To confirm, the remaining stored units are unlikely to ever return to service?

 

[Loppylugs]

66703

Many thanks @3973EXL was hoping for something a little more "exciting". Anyone think a 69 might ever get on one of these ?

 

[yorkie]

Just a gentle reminder this thread is for updates regarding Southern Class 455 withdrawals

This forum does welcome posts of a speculative nature but we do ask that these are posted exclusively in the Speculative Discussion section please

If you see a thread become speculative and/or off topic, please don't reply to it, and instead please report the first speculative / off topic post to us, using the report link underneath the post in question.

If anyone wishes to discuss any spin-off matters, related topics or anything of a speculative nature, please create a new thread and feel free to link to any such thread from the original one.

Thanks

 

[Towers]

I'm pleased to say their legacy lives on, ironically enough in South Wales!

 

[Milo T.K]

I'm pleased to say their legacy lives on, ironically enough in South Wales!

Oh the irony!

 

[Jturner98]

Thanks for this list, very useful.
To confirm, the remaining stored units are unlikely to ever return to service?

Very unlikely. Maybe some could of gone to SWR but I can’t see that happening

Current GTR 455 status
Updated 19/5/22

455801
455802
455803
455804
455805
455807
455808
455809 - Scrapped
455810 - Scrapped
455811
455812
455813
455814
455815
455816 - Scrapped
455817
455818
455819
455820
455821
455822
455823
455824
455825 - Scrapped
455826
455827 - Scrapped
455828
455829
455830
455831 - Scrapped
455832
455833
455834
455835 - Scrapped
455836
455837
455838 - Scrapped
455839 - Scrapped
455840
455841 - Scrapped
455842
455843
455844
455845
455846

Total Southern units - 46
Total scrapped 10
Total stored - 36

 

[warwickshire]

5Q55 1033 Stewarts Lane to Newport Simms was hauled by 66703 the Arlington vans with 455835 and 455841 going for scrap. On time at Shepherd's Bush.

 

[J burge]

I'm pleased to say their legacy lives on, ironically enough in South Wales!

Thats awesome where too in South Wales is this one towers

 

[Class455]

Very unlikely. Maybe some could of gone to SWR but I can’t see that happening

Current GTR 455 status
Updated 19/5/22

455801
455802
455803
455804
455805
455807
455808
455809 - Scrapped
455810 - Scrapped
455811
455812
455813
455814
455815
455816 - Scrapped
455817
455818
455819
455820
455821
455822
455823
455824
455825 - Scrapped
455826
455827 - Scrapped
455828
455829
455830
455831 - Scrapped
455832
455833
455834
455835 - Scrapped
455836
455837
455838 - Scrapped
455839 - Scrapped
455840
455841 - Scrapped
455842
455843
455844
455845
455846

Total Southern units - 46
Total scrapped 10
Total stored - 36

Would it be worth adding this list in your first post that started this thread, along with the storage locations of each unit? Think that will be useful

 

[Class 466]

Yeh have heard that TT change rumour too

It's not a rumour at all. all the timetables on the website are end dated in September for that reason.

 

[Class455]

It's not a rumour at all. all the timetables on the website are end dated in September for that reason.

Think the OP meant the reorganisation of metro services, not the fact that a timetable change is taking place in September?

 

[Jturner98]

Would it be worth adding this list in your first post that started this thread, along with the storage locations of each unit? Think that will be useful

Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to do that. Can I just edit my first post and put the fleet status in there?

 

[43172]

Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to do that. Can I just edit my first post and put the fleet status in there?

Yes, there should be an icon with three dots at the bottom of the post. It would help as well for fututre reference to have one place instead of hopping through multiple pages to find when each unit was sent for scrap.

I've attached some photos of todays scrap move at Newport if anyone is interested, with 66703 leading 455835 and 455841 to there fate.

 

[Jturner98]

Yes, there should be an icon with three dots at the bottom of the post. It would help as well for fututre reference to have one place instead of hopping through multiple pages to find when each unit was sent for scrap.

I've attached some photos of todays scrap move at Newport if anyone is interested, with 66703 leading 455835 and 455841 to there fate.

Should be done now. Should be on the first post on this thread. Thanks for your help

 

[yorkie]

Just a gentle reminder this thread is for updates regarding Southern Class 455 withdrawals

This forum does welcome posts of a speculative nature but we do ask that these are posted exclusively in the Speculative Discussion section please

If you see a thread become speculative and/or off topic, please don't reply to it, and instead please report the first speculative / off topic post to us, using the report link underneath the post in question.

If anyone wishes to discuss any spin-off matters, related topics or anything of a speculative nature, please create a new thread and feel free to link to any such thread from the original one.

Thanks

 

[Class455]

Does anyone know the date of when 455's first entered service on the Southern region? Was it from the May 1983 timetable change?

 

[Towers]

Thats awesome where too in South Wales is this one towers

Cardiff Queen Street!

 

[ainsworth74]

This discussion around whether or not Southern should have gotten rid of the 455s can now be found here.

 

[Ewan M]

Are GBRf doing all of the 455 scrap moves or will ROG do some too?