Transpennine Route Upgrade and Electrification updates

[GRALISTAIR]

Not seen this mentioned. First catenary and contact wires up between Church Fenton and Colton South Jn.

Down Leeds from the start of the portals at Church Fenton to just past Ulleskelf Station.

Down Normanton from the start of the portals at Church Fenton to half way towards Ulleskelf Station.

Both Down Leeds and Down Normanton also have a wired connection to the existing OLE at Colton South Jn, of a few structures worth.

Nothing on the Up Leeds or Up Normanton yet.

Absolutely great news. Thanks for posting.

 

[59CosG95]

Not seen this mentioned. First catenary and contact wires up between Church Fenton and Colton South Jn.

Down Leeds from the start of the portals at Church Fenton to just past Ulleskelf Station.

Down Normanton from the start of the portals at Church Fenton to half way towards Ulleskelf Station.

Both Down Leeds and Down Normanton also have a wired connection to the existing OLE at Colton South Jn, of a few structures worth.

Nothing on the Up Leeds or Up Normanton yet.

Looks like the Dn Leeds has been wired for two full tension lengths at the south end, and the Dn Normanton for one full tension length.

I've seen that the catenaries for the three crossover wire runs at Colton South Ladder have been run - last I saw, the contact hadn't been run and droppers were sporadically fitted.
Did the DL/DN interfaces with the existing OLE finish just shy of the two very tall masts?
If they did, that might be part of the new Carrier Wire Neutral Section installed over the Leeds/Normanton lines.

 

[Halish Railway]

How long has the Miles Platting Curve been 55mph? I was under the impression that it hadn’t been signed off for 55mph yet.

Going around it at 55mph certainly made the arrival into Manchester Victoria seem much quicker.

 

[zwk500]

How long has the Miles Platting Curve been 55mph? I was under the impression that it hadn’t been signed off for 55mph yet.

Going around it at 55mph certainly made the arrival into Manchester Victoria seem much quicker.

Since this weekend, I think.

 

[Watershed]

Since this weekend, I think.

Yes, that's when the higher speed was commissioned.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Is the new 55mph limit the Sprinter speed or can all trains do it?

 

[Watershed]

Is the new 55mph limit the Sprinter speed or can all trains do it?

It's a straight 30/55 differential. So all passenger trains can do it.

 

[LOL The Irony]

It's a straight 30/55 differential. So all passenger trains can do it.

Ok, thanks.

 

[Geeves]

I believe the "slow lines" are now actually a higher speed than the "fast lines" next to them!

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I believe the "slow lines" are now actually a higher speed than the "fast lines" next to them!

Surely it won’t stay this way?

 

[zwk500]

Surely it won’t stay this way?

Why not, given they're not really fast and slow, but Rochdale/Stalybridge lines?

 

[GRALISTAIR]

Why not, given they're not really fast and slow, but Rochdale/Stalybridge lines?

True. I forgot about that.

 

[Geeves]

You can get to Rochdale on both sets of lines and they are still all named Rochdale, anyway like you say it might well change

 

[snowball]

Press release including the claim that the kit installed over the weekend included

2800m of train-powering electric cable

That doesn't mean actual overhead line, does it? Do they claim points and signals power trains?

Closures every Saturday and Sunday until the end of July.

Manchester 21st century signalling overhaul completed over Jubilee

Network Rail is thanking passengers for using alternative journeys into Manchester over the recent Queen’s Platinum Jubilee bank holiday 450 railway engineers completed a major signalling overhaul to modernise journeys into the city as part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade This will allow for...

www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk

• Network Rail are thanking passengers for using alternative journeys into Manchester over the recent Queen’s Platinum Jubilee bank holiday
• 450 railway engineers completed a major signalling overhaul to modernise journeys into the city as part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade
• This will allow for faster line speeds towards Manchester Victoria meaning more reliable journeys for passengers now and enabling faster journeys in future

Over the four-day bank holiday, signalling equipment was moved from the 132-year-old signal box near Philips Park, to Manchester’s state-of-the-art rail operating centre. Signals are like traffic lights for trains and bringing them into the 21st Century will help more trains to run on time between Manchester and Stalybridge in future.

As part of wider improvements in central Manchester over several weekends, engineers also installed:

• 29 new signals
• 4000m of new track
• 2800m of train-powering electric cable.

This is part of the multi-billion-pound Transpennine Route Upgrade which will bring faster, more reliable services for passengers travelling between York, Leeds and Manchester.

Work continues over weekends between Manchester and Stalybridge to upgrade track and install overhead line equipment. Passengers are urged to check before they travel via National Rail Enquiries or with their train operator.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

You can get to Rochdale on both sets of lines and they are still all named Rochdale, anyway like you say it might well change

Perhaps adopting the GWR terminology of Main and Relief would be the thing... though in this case both Down lines should be the Reliefs, as it's literally a relief to be heading back to Yorkshire!

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

That doesn't mean actual overhead line, does it? Do they claim points and signals power trains?

That stretch of track already had "train-powering cable" in the form of the "great extension lead" from Hayrod to Victoria.
But that would be nit-picking...

 

[snowball]

That did cross my mind, but it seems unlikely they've duplicated part of it.

 

[Buspilot]

from Hayrod

Where? It's Heyrod.

 

[WAO]

"2800m of train powering cable" over four tracks equals 700m of route. If one includes catenary as well as contact wire, that is about 350m, less with overlaps.

Did anyone notice any extra OLE from the last possession?

Perhaps we should club together to buy NR's PR Dept a copy of Garry Keenor's excellent book, so they can learn the parts' names.

WAO

 

[Elecman]

"2800m of train powering cable" over four tracks equals 700m of route. If one includes catenary as well as contact wire, that is about 350m, less with overlaps.

Did anyone notice any extra OLE from the last possession?

Perhaps we should club together to buy NR's PR Dept a copy of Garry Keenor's excellent book, so they can learn the parts' names.

WAO

They can download it for free

 

[GRALISTAIR]

"2800m of train powering cable" over four tracks equals 700m of route. If one includes catenary as well as contact wire, that is about 350m, less with overlaps.

Did anyone notice any extra OLE from the last possession?

Perhaps we should club together to buy NR's PR Dept a copy of Garry Keenor's excellent book, so they can learn the parts' names.

WAO

They can download it for free

But lets make it super easy by paying for a hard copy -even get Garry to sign it , then donate it to them?

 

[snowball]

User Freel07 on Skyscrapercity has posted some stills and a video of electrification work in the Ashton Moss area. One of the stills shows a new STC adjacent to an old Woodhead-vintage portal which will presumably be removed in due course.

Electrification

www.skyscrapercity.com

 

[59CosG95]

David Mcguffie IOSH on LinkedIn: #lundy #tru

A good weekend for #Lundy piling team on the #TRU putting some big piles up to 10m achieving up 100% the thing is the team make this look easy. A good team…

www.linkedin.com

Pictures from LinkedIn of piles (some 10m!) being installed at Ashton Moss.

 

[edwin_m]

David Mcguffie IOSH on LinkedIn: #lundy #tru

A good weekend for #Lundy piling team on the #TRU putting some big piles up to 10m achieving up 100% the thing is the team make this look easy. A good team…

www.linkedin.com

Pictures from LinkedIn of piles (some 10m!) being installed at Ashton Moss.

I hope that's because of ground conditions (the clue's in the name!) not because the over-specification on GWML has re-appeared.

 

[59CosG95]

I hope that's because of ground conditions (the clue's in the name!) not because the over-specification on GWML has re-appeared.

I'd suspect ground conditions personally - I expect there's lots of unknown mine workings in the area too.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I hope that's because of ground conditions (the clue's in the name!) not because the over-specification on GWML has re-appeared.

I'd suspect ground conditions personally - I expect there's lots of unknown mine workings in the area too.

Has to be ground conditions and not “GWML would survive a nuclear weapon style”. But thinking positively, they have learned from GWML and done a thorough ground etc investigation etc ( learned from Preston to Manchester). Whatever, it is good to see.

 

[Buspilot]

Ashton Moss was an area given over to market gardening. Per Google:

The seventy acres of bog land owned by Lord Stamford was drained and cultivated in the 1830s.

The best known operators in recent times being Sowerbutts (Bill Sowerbutts of Radio 4 Gardeners Question Time being one of that family) and Arthur A Gent.

 

[YorkshireBear]

I'd suspect ground conditions personally - I expect there's lots of unknown mine workings in the area too.

As would I, all the standard foundations went in a while ago round there. Now it will mostly be those special ones where the engineer couldn't just pick one out of an Argos catalogue.

 

[WAO]

I suspect that the clue is in the name "moss". Parts of Lancashire are low lying and boggy, deep in peat even when drained. We remember Chat Moss and the problems of building the L&M there. (In medieval times, Liverpool had to be accessed from the South, through the Wirral and the monastic Birkenhead ferry.) The better news might be that they had 100% success in piling, indicating correct selection. The GW lines were often flanked by stuck piles, evidence perhaps that they were too long in the first place.

WAO

 

[billh]

I'd suspect ground conditions personally - I expect there's lots of unknown mine workings in the area too.

The Coal Authority Maps show mining under Ashton Moss North Junction in the 1950s. There was mining in the Philips Park area until 1968 when Bradford Colliery closed. Mining did for the Hollinwood Branch Canal near Droylesden Station in 1935 and the Denton- Ashton Moss line still shows unusual undulations near to the site of Ashton Moss (the Snipe) Colliery- the B&M store on the retail park is built over one of the shafts which was (is) over 3000ft deep