Football

[birchesgreen]

I wonder how much of it is that Ronaldo’s game has been based around strength and fitness, whereas Messi has more been about “talent”? Messi can still do most of his things at relative walking pace, whereas Ronaldo can’t. (Not saying Ronaldo isn’t talented, but he’s worked hard to improve himself)

Yes i think that is a lot of it, a lot of Ronaldo's game has depended on being in the right place at the right time and you need pace, strength and fitness for that. Messi is able to read a game better (maybe than anyone) and can get there with a lot less effort! Their skill once they are in that time / place is comparable.

I think what he meant was the current unshaven look of Messi makes him look far older than he is.

Yes to be fair when i shave i look about 10 years younger.

 

[Strat-tastic]

it is called humour. i know that is wasted on this board.

You what? How rude!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I must say I prefer Premier League Matches to the World Cup/Euros, but that's because my loyalty to Spurs is stronger than my loyalty to England
(C.O.Y.S.)

 

[150249]

I must say I prefer Premier League Matches to the World Cup/Euros, but that's because my loyalty to Spurs is stronger than my loyalty to England
(C.O.Y.S.)

Wheyyyyy although, my friend is a Brentford fan and will crucify me if Spurs lose.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

In tonight's EFL Trophy round of 16 matches, the U-21 teams of Everton, Manchester United and Chelsea were all defeated, all three conceding four goals to league opposition.

 

[GS250]

I must say I prefer Premier League Matches to the World Cup/Euros, but that's because my loyalty to Spurs is stronger than my loyalty to England
(C.O.Y.S.)

There's nothing wrong with this. After all your country you support is by default, your club you have some choice over but its there for life.

The only thing that gets my goat is when people pass judgement on England players with clear club loyalties getting in the way. A large group of grizzled old Chelsea fans spent the entire game moaning at Kane even when he did some good stuff. Naturally the Spurs fans in the room were at a loss when Mount came on.

 

[birchesgreen]

You can change your football club you support if the old one becomes rubbish but its harder to change your national allegiance.

 

[GS250]

You can change your football club you support if the old one becomes rubbish but its harder to change your national allegiance.

Deserters!

I stuck with Wealdstone throughout our darkest days. Ground sharing, playing in the 3rd Ryman Division in front of one man and his dog and getting beaten by the likes of Flackwell Heath, Aveley and Windsor. Now been rewarded with NL football and crowds of over 2000 for some home games plus trips to places like Notts County, Wrexham and Oldham Athletic.

 

[Old Yard Dog]

Deserters!

I stuck with Wealdstone throughout our darkest days. Ground sharing, playing in the 3rd Ryman Division in front of one man and his dog and getting beaten by the likes of Flackwell Heath, Aveley and Windsor. Now been rewarded with NL football and crowds of over 2000 for some home games plus trips to places like Notts County, Wrexham and Oldham Athletic.

I had to lend my allegiance to Orient and then Halifax when Bradford were dormant from 1974 to 1988 (apart from the Sunday League side). Sadly we lost a whole generation of potential supporters to our friends in Manningham in those 14 years and our crowds have never recovered. Interestingly, if there had been automatic promotion and relegation to and from D4 in the 1960's, Bradford City would have gone out of the league before Park Avenue.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Allez les Rouges this evening!

 

[Jimini]

Deserters!

I stuck with Wealdstone throughout our darkest days. Ground sharing, playing in the 3rd Ryman Division in front of one man and his dog and getting beaten by the likes of Flackwell Heath, Aveley and Windsor. Now been rewarded with NL football and crowds of over 2000 for some home games plus trips to places like Notts County, Wrexham and Oldham Athletic.

You are the Wealdstone Raider AICMFP

 

[birchesgreen]

Actually no i am only joking about changing team allegiance, though to be honest if someone does it doesn't bother me. Enduring mid- to lower table mediocrity for decades on end is not for everyone.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Deserters!

I stuck with Wealdstone throughout our darkest days. Ground sharing, playing in the 3rd Ryman Division in front of one man and his dog and getting beaten by the likes of Flackwell Heath, Aveley and Windsor. Now been rewarded with NL football and crowds of over 2000 for some home games plus trips to places like Notts County, Wrexham and Oldham Athletic.

How do you think that some of the Oldham Athletic older supporters feel who once saw their team as one of the founder members of the Premier League playing against top quality opposition (and getting good results against the odds) who are now near the bottom of the National League.

 

[GS250]

You are the Wealdstone Raider AICMFP

Funnily enough he doesn't actually go to that many games. Only the big boozy days out really.

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How do you think that some of the Oldham Athletic older supporters feel who once saw their team as one of the founder members of the Premier League playing against top quality opposition (and getting good results against the odds) who are now near the bottom of the National League.

Well...they did come up with a phrase "teams like Wealdstone and Maidenhead" when the trap door was beckoning last season. Even worse when they beat the BELTS.

 

[150249]

Exeter flirting with promotion every year has been agonising from my point of view. Massive relief last season

 

[Butts]

Well after tonight I'm sure FIFA are ecstatic about an Argentina versus France Final $$$$$$$$$$$

The natural order has been restored.

 

[Urobach]

The only thing that gets my goat is when people pass judgement on England players with clear club loyalties getting in the way. A large group of grizzled old Chelsea fans spent the entire game moaning at Kane even when he did some good stuff. Naturally the Spurs fans in the room were at a loss when Mount came on.

I work with Manchester city fans, many of whom with very strong views on Henderson, Shaw, Maguire, Rashford and Alexander-Arnold.

Also happen to be the most vocal about wanting Southgate to go

 

[birchesgreen]

Mbappe vs Messi final (i think some other blokes are involved too). Both play for Qatar United (PSG) but one of them wants to leave so lets see which raises the cup on sunday (conspiracies me?)

 

[adrock1976]

Sinisa Mihajlovic, who was well known for scoring one of the decisive penalties in the European Cup final in 1991 (Red Star Belgrade v Marseille) has sadly passed away at the age of 53.

Red Star Belgrade became the second (and to date the last) side from Eastern Europe (after Steaua Bucharest in 1986) to have won the European Cup, which was done the proper way by winning the top flight division the previous season.

Also of note, this was during the time that English FA clubs were barred from participating due to the Heysel Disaster in 1985 (Liverpool v Juventus).

 

[Cowley]

This is quite the game. Enjoyable from a neutral point of view.

 

[150249]

This is quite the game. Enjoyable from a neutral point of view.

Indeed it is. Both teams poor in defence

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

It was Messi who was robbed in possession that led to the French counter-attack that led to the second French goal.

 

[birchesgreen]

It was Messi that made it 3-2

 

[johntea]

What an incredible turnaround from the first 80 minutes!

 

[birchesgreen]

That was quite a game

 

[Peterthegreat]

That was quite a game

Indeed it was.

 

[SuspectUsual]

Well. What a game

Glad Argentina won though

And one of my mate’s had £3 on Messi and Mbappe to both score at least 7 goals, and both got to 7 in extra time. A nice £600 Xmas bonus

 

[150249]

Best final ever. I'm calling it.

Well done Argentina. Deserved a win eventually. I'm so happy for Messi

Now we wait for 14th June 2024

 

[Carlisle]

Best final ever. I'm calling it.

If i was a neutral i’m not sure I’d make that claim for a game decided on penalties.

 

[Peterthegreat]

If i was a neutral i’m not sure I’d make that claim for a game decided on penalties.

"Best" possibly not. Most exciting definitely.