CrossCountry HST Diagrams

[class 9]

That info isn't know until the early hours of that day, when set allocations are done.

 

[LiftFan]

It is, indeed, coach F, same as with the Voyagers. Recent experience of the HST sets is that the reservations system has been a little iffy, with coach G not showing any at all and the occasional apology for a lack of reservations being announced.

They gave up on the one I was on, just printed out card reservations instead. A bit of a throwback!

 

[XCTurbostar]

13-Aug 2023
Today's sets are;
43366 + XC05 + 43378 - 5V56, 1V56, 1E75, 5G75
43303 + XC03 + 43239 - 5V48, 1V48, 1S55, 5S55

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14-Aug 2023
One set out in traffic today;
43366 + XC05 + 43378 - 5V44, 1V44, 1S51 (as far as Newcastle), 5Z43 (to Neville Hill)
One set on ECS;
43357 + XC02 + 43304 - 5Z43 (Neville Hill to Laira)

 

[tobiast]

Any idea why 43303 +XC03 + 43239 stayed at Craigentinny this morning?

Presumably that will leave 2 HSTs there tonight and none at Neville Hill to run 1V44 tomorrow.

 

[louis97]

Any idea why 43303 +XC03 + 43239 stayed at Craigentinny this morning?

Presumably that will leave 2 HSTs there tonight and none at Neville Hill to run 1V44 tomorrow.

1S51 is going to have a set swap at Newcastle and the set will return to Neville Hill to balance for tomorrow.

Not sure why the set didn't come off this morning.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Any idea why 43303 +XC03 + 43239 stayed at Craigentinny this morning?

An issue with coaching stock.

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1S51 is going to have a set swap at Newcastle and the set will return to Neville Hill to balance for tomorrow.

Not sure why the set didn't come off this morning.

Correct, it will run 5Z43 to Neville Hill

 

[170UTD]

An issue with coaching stock.

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Fingers crossed that everything is fine tomorrow, as I'm planning to get 1V50 from Derby to Birmingham (if it's a HST)

 

[The_Train]

Fingers crossed that everything is fine tomorrow, as I'm planning to get 1V50 from Derby to Birmingham (if it's a HST)

I will be monitoring tomorrow closely as I am considering a South West run on Wednesday. Don't want to fork out a lot of money to then end up on Voyagers though

 

[tobiast]

I know the feeling... I always end up buying an on-the-day ticket 5 minutes before the train arrives when I can be almost sure it's not been swapped!

No choice for me on Wednesday though so I'm really hoping 1V50 is HST or I may be in for a lot of travel-sickness...

 

[matt]

Any ideas what the Bank Holiday Monday diagrams are? The 0812 from Leeds to Plymouth shows a 4 car when I try and reserve a seat for it.

 

[Peterthegreat]

Any ideas what the Bank Holiday Monday diagrams are? The 0812 from Leeds to Plymouth shows a 4 car when I try and reserve a seat for it.

If you mean Monday then a normal Monday service is in operation (not a Sunday service) and the above train is booked a Voyager,

 

[matt]

If you mean Monday then a normal Monday service is in operation (not a Sunday service) and the above train is booked a Voyager,

Sorry the 0612 from Leeds. I was looking at the Birmingham time

 

[Trainfan344]

What are the current Friday diagrams?

 

[XCTurbostar]

What are the current Friday diagrams?

All weekdays are the same
Set1 - 5V44, 1V44, 1S51, 5S51
Set2 - 5V50, 1V50, 1E63, 5G63

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15-Aug 2023
Usual two sets in traffic tomorrow;
43366 + XC05 + 43378 - 5V44, 1V44, 1S51, 5S51
43303 + XC03 + 43239 - 5V50, 1V50, 1E63, 5G63

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Sorry the 0612 from Leeds. I was looking at the Birmingham time

That one is booked as a HST via Lichfield

 

[matt]

That one is booked as a HST via LiLichfield

Have the journey planners not been updated as there is nothing showing as being diverted via Lichfield?

 

[XCTurbostar]

Have the journey planners not been updated as there is nothing showing as being diverted via Lichfield?

Ahh yes, I think I got my information mixed since the weekend before is the blockade. The 0612 is a HST, 0812 is a Voyager.

 

[occone]

I see that XC have revinyled some of their power cars - is there any chance of seeing these out in the wild?

XC have re vinyled 3 x Power cars at Laira

Can't see it posted elsewhere, and apologies if this is in another thread, but XC have re vinyled 3 x Power cars at Laira , one is 184 in executive, then there is one in Swallow and one in Br blue and yellow. Unsure on power car IDs but it is reported on a Plymouth FB page im a member of (not...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[XCTurbostar]

I see that XC have revinyled some of their power cars - is there any chance of seeing these out in the wild?

XC have re vinyled 3 x Power cars at Laira

Can't see it posted elsewhere, and apologies if this is in another thread, but XC have re vinyled 3 x Power cars at Laira , one is 184 in executive, then there is one in Swallow and one in Br blue and yellow. Unsure on power car IDs but it is reported on a Plymouth FB page im a member of (not...

www.railforums.co.uk

All three reliveried PCs are at Laira Depot and haven’t ran (yet). I’m keeping tabs on it and will update this when movement are planned.

 

[The_Train]

Without wanting to tempt fate, I presume that as everything seems to be running as per diagram so far today that there is nothing to suggest that they won't be out on the usual 1V44 & 1V50 diagrams in the morning?

Might brave it and buy some tickets tonight

 

[170UTD]

Without wanting to tempt fate, I presume that as everything seems to be running as per diagram so far today that there is nothing to suggest that they won't be out on the usual 1V44 & 1V50 diagrams in the morning?

Might brave it and buy some tickets tonight

1S51 is running 40 minutes late approaching Tamworth. As it was late at Birmingham I thought about catching it for a bonus ride (after I got on 1V50 earlier) but it was rammed so I decided to go for the 170 on 1M98, about 10 minutes behind it to go straight to Nottingham.

 

[The_Train]

1S51 is running 40 minutes late approaching Tamworth. As it was late at Birmingham I thought about catching it for a bonus ride (after I got on 1V50 earlier) but it was rammed so I decided to go for the 170 on 1M98, about 10 minutes behind it to go straight to Nottingham.

Yeah I had noticed S51 was running late. It seemed to accrue delay minutes at Temple Meads and I presume this was connected to the line block between Cheltenham and Birmingham earlier as opposed to the set mis-behaving. Unsurprising it was rammed as it'll be collecting double the amount of pax at each station call now it is behind schedule as people can't just wait another 5 minutes for the next train into Birmingham to spread the load a bit

 

[YorksLad12]

1S51 is running 40 minutes late approaching Tamworth. As it was late at Birmingham I thought about catching it for a bonus ride (after I got on 1V50 earlier) but it was rammed so I decided to go for the 170 on 1M98, about 10 minutes behind it to go straight to Nottingham.

Yeah I had noticed S51 was running late. It seemed to accrue delay minutes at Temple Meads and I presume this was connected to the line block between Cheltenham and Birmingham earlier as opposed to the set mis-behaving. Unsurprising it was rammed as it'll be collecting double the amount of pax at each station call now it is behind schedule as people can't just wait another 5 minutes for the next train into Birmingham to spread the load a bit

The two previous trains were cancelled / terminated short, which is why I avoided it and caught the Northern semi-fast from Sheffield... which was also busy (standing to Barnsley). There's no Penistone Line service to speak of, passengers advised to take that service to Leeds and change for Huddersfield, suspect some will have departed at Barnsley to catch a bus.

 

[tobiast]

I had the pleasure of witnessing 1S51 running through Durham tonight, around 40 minutes late and in reverse formation relative to yesterday. No longer very busy as I suspect an earlier LNER service has taken some of its northern customers. Hopefully it seems to be safely on its way to Scotland ready for 1V50 tomorrow.

 

[Jimini]

1S51 is running 40 minutes late approaching Tamworth. As it was late at Birmingham I thought about catching it for a bonus ride (after I got on 1V50 earlier) but it was rammed so I decided to go for the 170 on 1M98, about 10 minutes behind it to go straight to Nottingham.

I was tempted as well to do the same, but I wasn’t in a rush and wanted to break my journey to Nottingham at Derby, plus I had a Seatfrog jobbie so elected to catch it just — well why not eh! I’m not much of a rolling stock enthusiast but I spent many a happy journey on a HST commuting Reading <> Paddington a few years back, so nice to hear all those creaks and squeaks one last time! Nice bit of nostalgia for someone who defends Voyagers on here quite a bit

Edit: I would also hazard a guess that the two young lads in carriage A sitting across from me are frequenters of this forum. Plenty of maps being ticked off / Traksy being followed etc.!

Edit #2: I’ve just remembered a disgruntled spotter (I assume?) who got on the train at New Street, muttered a few things whilst walking through the carriage before shouting “enjoy it while it lasts, this one’s being scrapped next week, then it’ll only be a five carriages train ”, before getting off again and then filming us leaving.

 

[XCTurbostar]

16-Aug 2023
Usual two sets in traffic today;
Set 1 - 43303 + XC03 + 43239
5V44 - XNL to LDS
1V44 - LDS to PLY
1S51 - PLY to GLC
5S51 - GLC to XCN
Set 2 - 43366 + XC05 + 43378
5V50 - XCN to EDB
1V50 - EDB to PLY
5V50 - PLY to XLZ
Unconfirmed
1E63 - PLY to LDS
5G63 - LDS to XNL

 

[tobiast]

16-Aug 2023
Usual two sets in traffic today;
Set 1 - 43303 + XC03 + 43239
5V44 - XNL to LDS
1V44 - LDS to PLY
1S51 - PLY to GLC
5S51 - GLC to XCN
Set 2 - 43366 + XC05 + 43378
5V50 - XCN to EDB
1V50 - EDB to PLY
5V50 - PLY to XLZ
Unconfirmed
1E63 - PLY to LDS
5G63 - LDS to XNL

So this implies that there may be a set swap at Plymouth. Out of interest, are these swaps usually made as a matter of routine after the set's been out for a while, or because there is a fault of some sort that needs rectifying? I am enjoying riding 43378 + XC05 + 43366 southbound at the moment and I notice the toilet in coach F is out of action and some of the carriages have no power - would this be a reason for the set swap, or would it happen anyway?

I just had that rush of fresh air from the gaps between the coaches coming through Sheffield tunnel... I'm going to miss that!

 

[XCTurbostar]

So this implies that there may be a set swap at Plymouth. Out of interest, are these swaps usually made as a matter of routine after the set's been out for a while, or because there is a fault of some sort that needs rectifying? I am enjoying riding 43378 + XC05 + 43366 southbound at the moment and I notice the toilet in coach F is out of action and some of the carriages have no power - would this be a reason for the set swap, or would it happen anyway?

I just had that rush of fresh air from the gaps between the coaches coming through Sheffield tunnel... I'm going to miss that!

Set swaps at Plymouth are common and the reasons are not usually fault related.
It normally occurs once a week to rotate the powercars and coaches. This one should be replaced with XC02 with 43184, 43007, 43008, 43304 or 43357.

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A path has appeared for an illusively named 5Z43
Good chance this is two re-liveried XC powercars on test.
21-Aug 2023 to 25-Aug 2023
5Z43 1157 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. VIA BRISTOL TEMPLE MEADS AND TAUNTON

Realtime Trains | 5Z43 1157 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. | 24/08/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z43 1157 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Laira T.& R.S.M.D. on 24/08/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[louis97]

A path has appeared for an illusively named 5Z43
Good chance this is two re-liveried XC powercars on test.

That isn't a path for testing powercars, it is route learning/refresh for the diversions via Westbury next month.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Todays
1E63 - PLY to LDS
5G63 - LDS to XNL

Now Allocated: 43184 + XC02 + 43007

The first run of 43007 in its new livery.

 

[crosscity]

Todays
1E63 - PLY to LDS
5G63 - LDS to XNL

Now Allocated: 43184 + XC02 + 43007

The first run of 43007 in its new livery.

So both power cars in ex-BR liveries.