Stagecoach East Scotland

[RomeoCharlie71]

At one point I thought the Fife Express routes will go over to E400MMCs. I gather the newest coaches are 67 plates.

Services use the Forth Road Bridge and Tay Road Bridge which can close to high-sided vehicles during high winds. Of course they could re-route services to use the Queensferry Crossing but that defeats the purpose in the FRB remaining open as a transport corridor, and renders the stops at the north and south end of the bridge obsolete.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Further Panther LE’s would seem possible and would work on a good few of the routes, but not all.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Further Panther LE’s would seem possible and would work on a good few of the routes, but not all.

Think this topic has been done to death on this forum in the past, but no they wouldn't: they have less seats, no luggage space, a less-powerful engine and no toilet amongst a whole host of other reasons why they wouldn't be suitable for the majority of Fife express routes.

 

[cnjb8]

There's widespread rumour internally that there will be a large order for new coaches next year. Long over due if true as the current fleet is in a an atrociously poor condition.

Further Panther LE’s would seem possible and would work on a good few of the routes, but not all.

Yutong's and Tourismo's were previously mentioned as on order, is this still the case?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Think this topic has been done to death on this forum in the past, but no they wouldn't: they have less seats, no luggage space, a less-powerful engine and no toilet amongst a whole host of other reasons why they wouldn't be suitable for the majority of Fife express routes.

They do have less seats yes, but it does feel like Enviro300’s often turn up now. On a weekday that doesn’t work but at a weekend it seems.

I question why any of the Fife coaches need a toilet to be honest. There’s maybe some legal thing to it but the journey lengths don’t justify it in my own opinion. The B8 is more than capable enough for a coach though and can fly along at times. Again large amounts of luggage space for a Fife coach really shouldn’t be necessary.

Yutong's and Tourismo's were previously mentioned as on order, is this still the case?

If it’s between either of those, I’d rather they kept the current stock and refurbished them. Maybe possibly grab a few cascades in places too.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

They do have less seats yes, but it does feel like Enviro300’s often turn up now. On a weekday that doesn’t work but at a weekend it seems.

I question why any of the Fife coaches need a toilet to be honest. There’s maybe some legal thing to it but the journey lengths don’t justify it in my own opinion. The B8 is more than capable enough for a coach though and can fly along at times. Again large amounts of luggage space for a Fife coach really shouldn’t be necessary.

B8s on a fully laden 15 metre body puts considerable strain on the small engine, also they'd be more expensive to operate as you have the same maintenance costs as you would for a tri-axle but almost 20% less seats.

The current fleet of coaches have up to 63 (65?) seats and come with luggage space and a toilet, replacing them with 53-seaters with no luggage space and toilet seems like a massive downgrade to me, notwithstanding the fact you'd be exacerbating the capacity issues faced with the current fleet of coaches. All very good saying these facilities "shouldn't be necessary", but they would certainly prove useful in certain situations: bearing in mind Glenrothes to Glasgow takes just shy of 2 hours on the X24, the X59 takes a similar amount of time between St Andrews and Edinburgh. Likewise students coming to/from St Andrews may have significant amounts of luggage with them which would be better placed in a luggage hold rather than taking up valuable space onboard the bus which could be otherwise used for passenger seats.

Your comment re the Enviro300s appearing "often" seems like confirmation bias to me, moreover you can have standing passengers on those vehicles (although certainly not comfortable for passengers). Yes they appear most days but it's not as if the majority of services are operated by them. The obvious suggestion would be to have more spare coaches, but then you have the spares sitting in the yard making no money as their suitability for other services is restricted.

The Panther LE is a niche and ideal product for routes such as the X51 and X55 which are aimed at commuters/leisure travellers and also double up as a local service in areas, but not for long-distance routes across the wider Fife Express network.

Regardless I'm led to believe Stagecoach have invested in integral Volvo products for the Fife Express network so this discussion is a bit pointless! But I think it speaks volumes how few orders there have been of the Panther LE.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Yutong's and Tourismo's were previously mentioned as on order, is this still the case?

At least one of the Stagecoach bids for the next phase of the ScotZeb scheme are for Yutong coaches, albeit not for East Scotland. The winning bids are to be announced in December i believe, so we'll find out then.

B8s on a fully laden 15 metre body puts considerable strain on the small engine, also they'd be more expensive to operate as you have the same maintenance costs as you would for a tri-axle but almost 20% less seats.

The current fleet of coaches have up to 63 (65?) seats and come with luggage space and a toilet, replacing them with 53-seaters with no luggage space and toilet seems like a massive downgrade to me, notwithstanding the fact you'd be exacerbating the capacity issues faced with the current fleet of coaches. All very good saying these facilities "shouldn't be necessary", but they would certainly prove useful in certain situations: bearing in mind Glenrothes to Glasgow takes just shy of 2 hours on the X24, the X59 takes a similar amount of time between St Andrews and Edinburgh. Likewise students coming to/from St Andrews may have significant amounts of luggage with them which would be better placed in a luggage hold rather than taking up valuable space onboard the bus which could be otherwise used for passenger seats.

Your comment re the Enviro300s appearing "often" seems like confirmation bias to me, moreover you can have standing passengers on those vehicles (although certainly not comfortable for passengers). Yes they appear most days but it's not as if the majority of services are operated by them. The obvious suggestion would be to have more spare coaches, but then you have the spares sitting in the yard making no money as their suitability for other services is restricted.

The Panther LE is a niche and ideal product for routes such as the X51 and X55 which are aimed at commuters/leisure travellers and also double up as a local service in areas, but not for long-distance routes across the wider Fife Express network.

Regardless I'm led to believe Stagecoach have invested in integral Volvo products for the Fife Express network so this discussion is a bit pointless! But I think it speaks volumes how few orders there have been of the Panther LE.

Further to these points the routes which would be getting the new coaches already have capacity issues with the existing fleet. It would therefor seem bizarre to want to downsize the vehicles used.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

B8s on a fully laden 15 metre body puts considerable strain on the small engine, also they'd be more expensive to operate as you have the same maintenance costs as you would for a tri-axle but almost 20% less seats.

The current fleet of coaches have up to 63 (65?) seats and come with luggage space and a toilet, replacing them with 53-seaters with no luggage space and toilet seems like a massive downgrade to me, notwithstanding the fact you'd be exacerbating the capacity issues faced with the current fleet of coaches. All very good saying these facilities "shouldn't be necessary", but they would certainly prove useful in certain situations: bearing in mind Glenrothes to Glasgow takes just shy of 2 hours on the X24, the X59 takes a similar amount of time between St Andrews and Edinburgh. Likewise students coming to/from St Andrews may have significant amounts of luggage with them which would be better placed in a luggage hold rather than taking up valuable space onboard the bus which could be otherwise used for passenger seats.

Your comment re the Enviro300s appearing "often" seems like confirmation bias to me, moreover you can have standing passengers on those vehicles (although certainly not comfortable for passengers). Yes they appear most days but it's not as if the majority of services are operated by them. The obvious suggestion would be to have more spare coaches, but then you have the spares sitting in the yard making no money as their suitability for other services is restricted.

The Panther LE is a niche and ideal product for routes such as the X51 and X55 which are aimed at commuters/leisure travellers and also double up as a local service in areas, but not for long-distance routes across the wider Fife Express network.

I’ve spoken to numerous coach drivers and they’ve told me otherwise. The B8 is perfectly fine.

The toilets though really shouldn’t be needed? It’s an unnecessary cost to the operator and on whichever sized coach in this scenario you’d pick for these routes the lengths of journeys taken don’t justify them for me. A Citylink vehicle obviously needs them, but not the Fife express coaches. The only ones in the East Scotland fleet that should justify them are the interdecks for the X7. Remember something useful doesn’t mean it’s something necessary.

Enviro300’s shouldn’t be appearing on any of these routes. It’s not an acceptable substitute. They do appear often and no it’s not ‘confirmation bias’ as you needlessly put it but rather an obvious fact that these do appear far too often. They’re way too small and people shouldn’t be expected to stand on those routes at any time. For context there’s one each on the X54 and X59 right now and also an E200mmc on the X60 which admittedly there are less options for the latter but it still isn’t good enough.

I’m not a fan of the integral Volvo’s myself but they are proving more and more popular. Even more Elite’s would have been preferable. The LE yes hasn’t proven popular, which surprises me. There’s also the added financial benefit of rationalising the fleet if you added in more LE’s too, which again further reduces costs. Again as I say more Elite’s would be better for that purpose. Volvo integral products to me definitely would signal an unsurprising change in direction for this new look Stagecoach.

 

[Blindtraveler]

New look Stagecoach certainly does seem to have fallen out with ADL massively. I can understand that for the bus side of things, but the coaches always seem to be a far better proposition in terms of quality. Honestly as someone who used to use the express network a lot, the toilet was an absolute godsend on some of the longer runs where either bus station stops are not long enough to allow a toilet break or facilities were unavailable at major stops. This was not uncommon and is likely to be more so now in the light of cost cutting.

Are these rumours just depot or messroom type gossip or is there any substantial evidence to swing in one direction or another?

 

[cnjb8]

New look Stagecoach certainly does seem to have fallen out with ADL massively. I can understand that for the bus side of things, but the coaches always seem to be a far better proposition in terms of quality. Honestly as someone who used to use the express network a lot, the toilet was an absolute godsend on some of the longer runs where either bus station stops are not long enough to allow a toilet break or facilities were unavailable at major stops. This was not uncommon and is likely to be more so now in the light of cost cutting.

Are these rumours just depot or messroom type gossip or is there any substantial evidence to swing in one direction or another?

ADL are currently delivering 200 E400MMCs and have 55 E400EVs on order for Oxford, I wouldn't call that a massive falling out

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

The toilets though really shouldn’t be needed? It’s an unnecessary cost to the operator and on whichever sized coach in this scenario you’d pick for these routes the lengths of journeys taken don’t justify them for me. A Citylink vehicle obviously needs them, but not the Fife express coaches. The only ones in the East Scotland fleet that should justify them are the interdecks for the X7. Remember something useful doesn’t mean it’s something necessary.

"Obviously"? Common Citylink journeys on the 6-cities network such as Glasgow/Edinburgh to Dundee, Glasgow to Edinburgh, Perth to Glasgow, Dundee to Aberdeen take no longer than 2 hours. These journey times are comparable with the most common ones on the Fife express network (Edinburgh/Glasgow to Kirkcaldy/Glenrothes/Leven, etc). I'm not sure how the X7 justifies them over the other Express services as, again, the most common journeys are those which take an hour or two (Perth to Dundee, Ninewells/Dundee to Arbroath/Montrose; Arbroath/Montrose to Aberdeen), very rarely you'll find someone travelling from Perth/Dundee to Aberdeen on the X7. The Interdecks weren't a good purchase for the X7 IMO, the glaringly obvious reason being the lack of accessible seats, but that's opening another can of worms entirely!

Enviro300’s shouldn’t be appearing on any of these routes. It’s not an acceptable substitute. They do appear often and no it’s not ‘confirmation bias’ as you needlessly put it but rather an obvious fact that these do appear far too often. They’re way too small and people shouldn’t be expected to stand on those routes at any time. For context there’s one each on the X54 and X59 right now and also an E200mmc on the X60 which admittedly there are less options for the latter but it still isn’t good enough.

What's the alternative though? You can't increase the number of spare coaches as you'd then have lots sitting in the yard depreciating, not recouping their initial investment. Whilst not ideal, Enviro200 MMCs/Enviro300s are still capable of operating the express routes, the same cannot be said for coaches operating local routes. Hence why Arbroath only have 1 spare Interdeck for the X7 for a PVR of 8.

There’s also the added financial benefit of rationalising the fleet if you added in more LE’s too, which again further reduces costs. Again as I say more Elite’s would be better for that purpose.

I think you'd be surprised at how many shared parts different Volvo and Plaxton products have!

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The main issue with the Fife Express network is that over the years, the network has slowly morphed into a local service within and between the Fife towns (and to some extent within Edinburgh) following the decimation of town services. As a result, journey times have been increased because of the dwell times at an increasing number of stops, making the service less attractable to customers over the train. Getting customers back on buses means combatting the current capacity issues, increasing the passenger experience by providing facilities (toilets, higher-quality seats, wi-fi) which you wouldn't ordinarily find on a local town bus and reducing journey times.

I don't imagine buying a fancy batch of new coaches then throwing a can of yellow paint over them won't help matters either...

 

[GusB]

What's the alternative though? You can't increase the number of spare coaches as you'd then have lots sitting in the yard depreciating, not recouping their initial investment. Whilst not ideal, Enviro200 MMCs/Enviro300s are still capable of operating the express routes, the same cannot be said for coaches operating local routes. Hence why Arbroath only have 1 spare Interdeck for the X7 for a PVR of 8.

I find it rather strange that, on one hand, you say the "small" engine in the Panther LE is unsuitable for certain routes, yet E200s etc., with their even smaller engines, are fine. Doesn't make sense to me.

I think you'd be surprised at how many shared parts different Volvo and Plaxton products have!

Eh? Volvo build the underpinnings, then Plaxton build the body around it - how on earth are they going to have shared components?

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

I find it rather strange that, on one hand, you say the "small" engine in the Panther LE is unsuitable for certain routes, yet E200s etc., with their even smaller engines, are fine. Doesn't make sense to me.

I didn't say that, I was implying that they are suitable in the event of a shortage of coaches. Putting it into perspective, a fleet of "small" B8 coaches would be getting used on intensive interurban work everyday compared to the odd Enviro300 (one of many in a fleet) being used as a backup vehicle. Moreover an E200/E300 has a much lighter body compared to a 15m coach!

Eh? Volvo build the underpinnings, then Plaxton build the body around it - how on earth are they going to have shared components?

I should've been clearer but I meant that independently of each other (of course a Volvo body and Plaxton body aren't going to share anything). There are parts which can be used on multiple Volvo chassis, similarly there are parts which are suitable for various Plaxton bodies.

 

[Ohnolookwho]

B8s on a fully laden 15 metre body puts considerable strain on the small engine, also they'd be more expensive to operate as you have the same maintenance costs as you would for a tri-axle but almost 20% less seats.

The current fleet of coaches have up to 63 (65?) seats and come with luggage space and a toilet, replacing them with 53-seaters with no luggage space and toilet seems like a massive downgrade to me, notwithstanding the fact you'd be exacerbating the capacity issues faced with the current fleet of coaches. All very good saying these facilities "shouldn't be necessary", but they would certainly prove useful in certain situations: bearing in mind Glenrothes to Glasgow takes just shy of 2 hours on the X24, the X59 takes a similar amount of time between St Andrews and Edinburgh. Likewise students coming to/from St Andrews may have significant amounts of luggage with them which would be better placed in a luggage hold rather than taking up valuable space onboard the bus which could be otherwise used for passenger seats.

Your comment re the Enviro300s appearing "often" seems like confirmation bias to me, moreover you can have standing passengers on those vehicles (although certainly not comfortable for passengers). Yes they appear most days but it's not as if the majority of services are operated by them. The obvious suggestion would be to have more spare coaches, but then you have the spares sitting in the yard making no money as their suitability for other services is restricted.

The Panther LE is a niche and ideal product for routes such as the X51 and X55 which are aimed at commuters/leisure travellers and also double up as a local service in areas, but not for long-distance routes across the wider Fife Express network.

Regardless I'm led to believe Stagecoach have invested in integral Volvo products for the Fife Express network so this discussion is a bit pointless! But I think it speaks volumes how few orders there have been of the Panther LE.

current B13s only have 59 seats, B11 Triaxles have 55, and the standard two axle B11s have just 47.

Add 1 to each of them when including a passenger in a wheelchair.

 

[route101]

Seen a normal liveried E200MMC on the CAV service from Ferrytoll to Edinburgh Park. Has one been repainted?

 

[overthewater]

Seen a normal liveried E200MMC on the CAV service from Ferrytoll to Edinburgh Park. Has one been repainted?

One has broken down, remember it still a normal bus service which must operate.

Also the tech people are also currently using buses to refine the computer programmes which means a diesel bus has to be use.

 

[roadierway77]

One has broken down, remember it still a normal bus service which must operate.

Also the tech people are also currently using buses to refine the computer programmes which means a diesel bus has to be use.

Yep, 62004 broke down and was replaced by 26353.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

One has broken down, remember it still a normal bus service which must operate.

I think a second was on it for a while earlier as well. I think with 62005 still not available for use that’s probably limiting the spare options. I’d imagine it’s back from Dubai by now though?

 

[overthewater]

I think a second was on it for a while earlier as well. I think with 62005 still not available for use that’s probably limiting the spare options. I’d imagine it’s back from Dubai by now though?

62005 is still in Dubai.

However since it's still the testing phase, I'm not one bit surprised this has happened and hopefully it gives the companies more data.
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Before the mods think, that trains... who going to take up the slack?

Trains cancelled as Storm Babet to bring life-threatening downpours

Customers are advised not to travel as no alternative transport is available.

news.stv.tv

The train operator expects the line closures to last until early Saturday, October 21, however this is dependent on weather conditions and any repair work to railway infrastructure that’s required.

Other routes across the network will be impacted by precautionary speed restrictions, meaning services may be subject to delay or cancellation.

The full list of suspended services are as follows:

• Aberdeen and Elgin
• Edinburgh and Aberdeen via Fife
• Perth and Aberdeen via Dundee
• Dunblane and Perth
• Perth and Aviemore
• Tain and Wick / Thurso
• All Fife Circle services

The trouble is most of the Citylink and Stagecoach East Scotland services are already running rather full, so with limited resource for extra journeys can we expect long delays ?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

62005 is still in Dubai.

I also saw 62001 has been having a holiday at Millbrook. I assume this is coming from ADL rather than something Stagecoach have opted for?

 

[overthewater]

A lot of services are being curtailed this evening due to the red and amber weather warnings

ServiceUpdatesArticle

www.stagecoachbus.com

Fife

Tay Road Bridge - No services will cross the Tay Road Bridge to Dundee until further notice.

AB1 - Currently running every 2 hours and being operated by a normal bus as we are unable to be sure what affect the storm will have on the autonomous technology.

Service will now depart at 10am, 12pm, 2pm, 4pm and 6pm from Ferrytoll and at 10:30am, 12:30pm, 2:30pm, 4:30pm and 6:30pm from Edinburgh Park.

4A/28 - Due to a tree blocking the road the service 4A will not service Steelend or Saline and instead it will operate via A907 road to Oakley.

41/41A/46 - Due to adverse weather conditions, all 46/41/41A services after 1805 will terminate at the Tay Road Bridge Car Park.

41 - This service at 23:30 from Cupar to Dundee will only travel as far as Tayport

42A - This service after 17:55 will travel from St Andrews as far as Tayport

99 - This service after 17:59 will travel from St Andrews as far as Forgan Roundabout

X56 - Due to the ongoing weather service X56 from Edinburgh at 18:15 will terminate at Halbeath P&R

X58/X60 - Due to the police closing Queensferry Road, between Clermiston & Barnton Westbound services will divert via Quality street, Gamekeepers road, Whitehouse road to Barnton.



The following journeys will not operate:
32 - Kirkcaldy to Glenrothes at 1735

36 - Glenrothes to Perth at 1740 and 0530 (Friday morning)

36 - Perth to Glenrothes at 2035 and 0628 (Friday morning)

37 - Glenrothes to Kirkcaldy at 1758

37 - Kirkcaldy to Glenrothes at 1840

39 - Glenrothes Bus Station to Leslie Allan Street at 1706

X54 - Glenrothes to Dundee at 1810

X54 - Dundee to Glenrothes at 1954

X54 - Glenrothes to Dundee at 1956

X54 - Dundee to Glenrothes at 2054

X56 - Halbeath P&R to Perth at 1900, and 2010 from Perth to Dunfermline



Perth & Kinross

Based on Scottish Government advice and Met Office warnings, we will be returning all buses within Perth and Blairgowrie to the depot by 6pm this evening for the safety of our passengers and staff. Please ensure you have planned your travel home this afternoon in advance of this and follow the advice to stay home and stay safe.





Dundee and Angus

Based on Scottish Government advice and Met Office warnings, we will be returning all buses within Angus to the depot by 6pm this evening for the safety of our passengers and staff. Please ensure you have planned your travel home this afternoon in advance of this and follow the advice to stay home and stay safe.



Tay Road Bridge - No services will cross the Tay Road Bridge to Dundee until further notice.

Last running times of services in Arbroath and Forfar:

9 - Laurencekirk to Montrose at 1700

9 - Montrose to Laurencekirk at 1500

X7 - Perth to Arbroath only at 1605

X7 - Aberdeen to Arbroath only at 1605

20 - Kirriemuir to Forfar only at 1730

20 - Dundee to Kirriemuir at 1625

21 - Stracathro to Dundee at 1620

21 - Dundee to Brechin only at 1600

21a - Forfar to Brechin at 1410

21a - Brechin to Forfar at 1438

21b - Stracathro to Dundee at 1548

22 - Dundee to Kirriemuir at 1600

27 - Forfar to as far as Letham only at 1650

27 - Arbroath to Forfar at 1640

30 - Stracathro to Arbroath at 1435

30 - Arbroath to Montrose only at 1640

34 - Circular service will terminate at 1727

39 - Arbroath to Seagate, Dundee only at 1635

39 - Kingoodie to Arbroath at 1605

42A - Dundee to St Andrews at 1755

43 - Circular service will terminate at 1737

37 - Midgrip to Ferryden at 1626

37 - Ferryden to Midgrip at 1650

52 - Circular town service will terminate at 1722

73 - Ninewells to Arbroath bus station at 1627

73A - Ninewells to Monifieth at 1612

73A - Ninewells to Ethiebeaton Park at 1647

99 - Dundee to St Andrews at 1759

138 - Circular departs Dundee at 1555, returning for 1717

 

[Dfatcontroller]

I find it rather strange that, on one hand, you say the "small" engine in the Panther LE is unsuitable for certain routes, yet E200s etc., with their even smaller engines, are fine. Doesn't make sense to me.

Eh? Volvo build the underpinnings, then Plaxton build the body around it - how on earth are they going to have shared components?

As I understand it; the only Plaxton/Volvo combos currently available are the Volvo B8R with either a Panther or Leopard bodywork.
The Volvo change from B11R to B13R has not yet been reworked by Plaxton to ensure an Elite or Panorama body can be attached as some of the fittings have been altered by Volvo.
Plaxton, understandably, will not make the necessary engineering changes until a sizeable order makes it worth their while.
Also, since the last batch were built, the B8R has also seen engineering changes which currently make a Plaxton Elite incompatible.

 

[overthewater]

Service still not running in Tayside and plenty of other issues, still affecting other parts of the network. https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...ticle?SituationId=ID-08/10/2023-12:28:09:311#

With Amber and Red alerts for rain and wind in the North East of Scotland, which is expected to affect our services from Thursday 19 October until Saturday 21 October, please carefully consider your travel requirements. Guidance from the Scottish Government warns of severe weather and suggests travel should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.

FIRDAY MORNING 20th OCT

Any specific issues/diversions or cancellations are listed below and will be updated as often as possible. For live journey updates please check the Stagecoach Bus App and our Twitter page (@StagecoachEScot) before you travel.



Perth & Kinross

At present all services are suspended due to the weather and road conditions
We will post updates here and on Twitter when we are confident any of our routes can operate safely. Please ensure you have planned your travel in advance and follow the advice to stay home and stay safe.



Dundee and Angus

At present all services are suspended due to the weather and road conditions
We will post updates here and on Twitter when we are confident any of our routes can operate safely. Please ensure you have planned your travel in advance and follow the advice to stay home and stay safe.



Fife

Most services are operating as normal with the following exceptions:

AB1 - Currently running every 2 hours and being operated by a normal bus as we are unable to be sure what affect the storm will have on the autonomous technology. Service will now depart at 7:30am, 8am, 10am, 12pm, 2pm, 4pm and 6pm from Ferrytoll and at 8am, 8:30am, 10:30am, 12:30pm, 2:30pm, 4:30pm and 6:30pm from Edinburgh Park.

7 - This service will be diverting via Alexander street, MacDuff street & Main avenue due to flooding in East Wemyss

X58 - This service will be diverting via Alexander street, MacDuff street & Main avenue due to flooding in East Wemyss

X60- Due to a tree blocking the road at Dunino, services are being diverted via coast and Spalefield. Will not stop at Anstruther Harbour bus stop.

4A - Due to a tree blocking the road service 4A will be unable to service Saline and Steelend.

28 - Will service Saline and Steelend via Cowstranburn

42 - The A91 closed at Melville roundabout to Cupar heading in both directions, services will resume at Elmwood collage.

X56 - This service will currently only operate between Edinburgh and Halbeath P&R due to the weather warning in Perth

95 - Will not be stopping at the Anstruther Harbour bus stop.

202 - This service has been withdrawn due to A977 being impassable due to flooding.

204 - This service has been withdrawn until further notice due to weather conditions



The following journeys will not operate:

36 - Glenrothes to Perth at 0530 (Friday morning)

36 - Perth to Glenrothes at 0628 (Friday morning)

 

[MasterSpenny]

According to buslistsontheweb.co.uk a new batch of Enviro 400 MMCs have been registered, with fleet and registration information provided below:
11659 - YX73OVA
11660 - YX73OVB
11661 - YX73OVC
11662 - YX73OVD

 

[overthewater]

According to buslistsontheweb.co.uk a new batch of Enviro 400 MMCs have been registered, with fleet and registration information provided below:
11659 - YX73OVA
11660 - YX73OVB
11661 - YX73OVC
11662 - YX73OVD

Blairgowrie depot I believe are getting these. However still no news on any new coaches.

 

[Blindtraveler]

The coach fleet is screaming out for an upgrade now, so hope that some answers come soon. We'll also be interesting to see what else stagecoach order single and double deck wise going forward, I know they've had a large load of ADL stuff this year but things do seem to be changing with them so watch this space I would say

 

[J Burns]

Optare solos ordered - 60 Slimline 8.5m for first half 2024. Replacements for depots across the country.

 

[GusB]

Optare solos ordered - 60 Slimline 8.5m for first half 2024. Replacements for depots across the country.

This has already been posted in this thread:

Bus Manufacturer News & Discussion

I'm sure a thread like this was created before, however i had a look and can no longer find it. The purpose of this thread is to post news and updates regarding bus manufacturers based in the UK such as ADL, Optare and Wright. Builders like Mellor Coachcraft who do the minibus van bodies are...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Highland050261]

Whats to happen with the 4 buses transfered from the Highland's ?
28603 SV61CYA
28605 SV61CYE
28646 SV12AYZ
28649 SV12AYK

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Whats to happen with the 4 buses transfered from the Highland's ?
28603 SV61CYA
28605 SV61CYE
28646 SV12AYZ
28649 SV12AYK

Heading to Fife I'm led to believe.