services you'd like to see

[Waverley125]

what services that don't currently run would you like to see?

Personally, I have a few:

NEWCASTLE-EDINBURGH STOPPER -hourly

Newcastle
Cramlington
Morpeth
Alnmouth
Berwick
Dunbar
Drem
Prestonpans
Musselburgh
Edinburgh Waverley

LEEDS-CLEETHORPES SEMI FAST-hourly

Leeds
Wakefield Westgate
Doncaster
Thorne South
Scunthorpe
Barnetby
Grimsby Town
Cleethorpes

 

[Yew]

I think i would go for my usual Lincoln => liverpool service. Ideally operated by HST's

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Is it me or do we have absolutely tonnes of these threads already?

 

[anthony263]

A 2 hourly service on the heart of wales line with trains continuing from Shrewsbury to Crewe, maybe using class 170's if any are displaced in the next few years.

Maybe London midland should order more 3 carriage class 172's for the Shrewsbury - Birmingham Service and displace the 2 carriage class 170's to ATW

 

[Class172]

Cardiff-Nottingham/Sheffield via Worcester

Cardiff Central
Newport
Pontypool
Abergavenny
Hereford
Ledbury
Colwall
Great Malvern
Malvern Link
Worcester Forgate St
Worcester Shrub Hill (limited service)
Droitwich Spa
Bromsgrove (limited service)
(Camp Hill line)
Birmingham New St
Water Orton
Tamworth
Burton-Upon-Trent
Derby --> Alternates between Nottingham/Sheffield
Nottingham
Chesterfield
Sheffield

Hourly service
Operated by 158s, 166s or turbostars (inc 168s) for Nottingham services
Operated by 172/4 (new build with 1st class and micro-buffet) or Loco-hauled rake of mk2s or mk3s

Birmingham-Brighton via Reading

Birmingham New St
(camp hill line)
Bromsgrove
Droitwich Spa
Worcester Shrub Hill
Ashchurch for Tewkesbury
Cheltenham Spa
Stroud
Swindon
Reading
Farnborough North
Guildford
Dorking Deepdene
Redhill
Gatwick Airport
Brighton

1tph
Operated by HSTs, 22x DEMUs or Loco-Hauled stock

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Hourly service


Birmingham-Brighton via Reading

...
Reading
Bracknell
Guildford
...

Good luck with that! Bracknell is on the Wokingham-Ascot route only, not Wokingham-Guildford

 

[Class172]

Good luck with that! Bracknell is on the Wokingham-Ascot route only, not Wokingham-Guildford

Oh dear I've just correct it and replaced it with Farnborough

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Oh dear I've just correct it and replaced it with Farnborough

... North. It'd be quite a diversion onto the SWML to get to Farnborough station, North is much easier!

 

[Lampshade]

Manchester - Lincoln via Wakefield Kirkgate:

Manchester Victoria > Rochdale > Hebden Bridge > Brighouse > Wakefield Kirkgate > Sheffield > Retford > Gainsborough Lea Road > Lincoln

 

[Anon Mouse]

London to Paris stopper would be canny

 

[HST Power]

Is it me or do we have absolutely tonnes of these threads already?

They are endless.

Nonetheless, I'd get two services an hour from Potters Bar to Cambridge and Peterborough (instead of the current one). The fifteen minutes past services to WGC would run at ten past, terminating at Welwyn North. The Cambridge services (run at twenty one past) would go from Potters Bar at about seventeen minutes past. They'd skip out Hatfield and WGC and stop first at Welwyn North, allowing passengers from Brookmans Park, Welwyn Garden City and Welham Green to join the Cambridge/Peterboro services (having hopped on the ten past trains from Potters Bar). There's really no need for the Cambridge and Peterborough services to stop at Hatfield or Welwyn Garden City.

 

[Anon Mouse]

It would be canny if there could be a weekly Edinburgh to Lhasha train, its possible but not feasable I suspect!

 

[Class172]

... North. It'd be quite a diversion onto the SWML to get to Farnborough station, North is much easier!

Not from around there so my knowledge is iffy
I knew it wasn't the one on the SWML but I couldn't remember the name, so I put the line it was on

 

[ainsworth74]

A service which I've sometimes thought about is this:

Sheffield - Glasgow Central via S&C

Sheffield
Wakefield Westgate
Leeds (reverse)
Shipley
Keighley
Skipton
Settle
Carlisle
Motherwell
Glasgow Central

I like it because it gives some good links within Yorkshire as well as giving Yorkshire a link to Glasgow. However seeing as from May XC are running many more services into Glasgow I suppose it isn't really worthwhile anymore unless there is a time saving to be had going this way, but I doubt it to be honest.

My idea was for a two hourly service operated by something like a 221 to take advantage of the tilt sections on the WCML.

 

[Blindtraveler]

A service which I've sometimes thought about is this:

Sheffield - Glasgow Central via S&C

Sheffield
Wakefield Westgate
Leeds (reverse)
Shipley
Keighley
Skipton
Settle
Carlisle
Motherwell
Glasgow Central

I like it because it gives some good links within Yorkshire as well as giving Yorkshire a link to Glasgow. However seeing as from May XC are running many more services into Glasgow I suppose it isn't really worthwhile anymore unless there is a time saving to be had going this way, but I doubt it to be honest.

My idea was for a two hourly service operated by something like a 221 to take advantage of the tilt sections on the WCML.

would you consider starting it from Leicester? Leicester to Scotland is a pig of a journey these days with at least one change and in addition Edinburgh now has no air service what so ever to Eastmidlands and Glasgow is limmited to non existant.

Glasgow and Leicester have large Asian populations who would use it, holiday makers on many package deals which go from East Mids would use it and students from Loughbrough and Leicester also.

You could run
Leicester, Loughbrough, East mids parkway, then as booked.

Also, a stop at Lokerbie would be worth trying and if you couldnt use 22x stock and went for turbostars instead, would you run 4 coaches to Carstairs and divide with a portion running to Edinburgh also?

Appologies for typo's etc

 

[466.networkers]

I'd like to see a return to the Sheerness - London services ...

2 tph - one to St Pancras via HS1 (limited stop) and one to Victoria

Formed of Class 395 (HS1) and Class 375 or 465/9

Calling at:

Queenborough
Swale (request stop)
Kemsley (request stop)
LONDON VICTORIA (non HS1)
Ebbsfleet Int'l
ST PANCRAS INT'L

I can dream eh? :P

 

[gnolife]

2 tph Cheadle Village (a new station i think should be opened on the Mid Cheshire) to Rose Hill
Cheadle Village, Stockport, Reddish South, Denton, Guide Bridge, Hyde North, Hyde Central, Woodley, Romiley and Rose Hill
using 150s or 156s.

 

[ChrisCooper]

Cardiff-Nottingham/Sheffield via Worcester

Cardiff Central
Newport
Pontypool
Abergavenny
Hereford
Ledbury
Colwall
Great Malvern
Malvern Link
Worcester Forgate St
Worcester Shrub Hill (limited service)
Droitwich Spa
Bromsgrove (limited service)
(Camp Hill line)
Birmingham New St
Water Orton
Tamworth
Burton-Upon-Trent
Derby --> Alternates between Nottingham/Sheffield
Nottingham
Chesterfield
Sheffield

Hourly service
Operated by 158s, 166s or turbostars (inc 168s) for Nottingham services
Operated by 172/4 (new build with 1st class and micro-buffet) or Loco-hauled rake of mk2s or mk3s

Birmingham-Brighton via Reading

Birmingham New St
(camp hill line)
Bromsgrove
Droitwich Spa
Worcester Shrub Hill
Ashchurch for Tewkesbury
Cheltenham Spa
Stroud
Swindon
Reading
Farnborough (downs line)
Guildford
Dorking Deepdene
Gatwick Airport
Brighton

1tph
Operated by HSTs, 22x DEMUs or Loco-Hauled stock

Why are you running via Camp Hill between Bromsgrove and Birmingham? It would take longer compared to the direct route, and for the Cardiff to Nottingham/Sheffield it would need a reverse at New Street.

 

[<name here>]

Birmingham-Brighton via Reading

Birmingham New St
(camp hill line)
Bromsgrove
Droitwich Spa
Worcester Shrub Hill
Ashchurch for Tewkesbury
Cheltenham Spa
Stroud
Swindon
Reading
Farnborough (downs line)
Guildford
Dorking Deepdene
Gatwick Airport
Brighton

1tph
Operated by HSTs, 22x DEMUs or Loco-Hauled stock

It would have to stop at Redhill and reverse to get to Gatwick and Brighton

 

[ainsworth74]

would you consider starting it from Leicester?

You could run
Leicester, Loughbrough, East mids parkway, then as booked.

Yeah why not I only chose Sheffield as it was a decent sized city in South Yorkshire, but I'm not opposed to running through the East Midlands as well. Actually seeing as it's going that way then might as well add a stop in Derby.(Though seeing as this is never going happen it doesn't really matter )

Also, a stop at Lokerbie would be worth trying and if you couldnt use 22x stock and went for turbostars instead, would you run 4 coaches to Carstairs and divide with a portion running to Edinburgh also?

Why Lockerbie?

Hmm I suppose it might be worth running a portion to Edinburgh, again I'm not opposed to it but only if the stock was something like Turbostars rather than 221s. As I say it's only a service that I occasionally play around with in my head, so I'm open to suggests!

 

[Blindtraveler]

Lockerbie is mainly served by TPE Runs these days and the capacity to central scotland is needed quite apart from anything else as the 185s are generally standing room only. Also it creates usefull links with yorkshire and east midlands which at present involve a change or 3, the first being at Carlisle where particularly the S and C services and mainline WCML dont connect too well!

 

[ainsworth74]

Lockerbie is mainly served by TPE Runs these days and the capacity to central scotland is needed quite apart from anything else as the 185s are generally standing room only.

Fair enough then I'm sold!

Now if only I could persuade the DfT

 

[Chapeltom]

Buxton to Liverpool Lime Street
Calling at: Chapel en le Frith, Whaley Bridge, New Mills Newtown, Disley, Hazel Grove, Stockport, Manchester Picc, Manchester Oxford Road, Warrington Central, Liverpool S.P and Liverpool Lime St. I reckon it would take 1hr 40.

Sheffield to Holyhead
Calling at: Chinley, Stockport (reverse), Wilmslow, Crewe (reverse), Chester, Rhyl, Colwyn Bay, Llandudno Jtn, Bangor and Holyhead. I reckon it would take around 3hr 20.

Sheffield to Carlisle
Calling at Wakefield Westgate, Leeds, Skipton, Settle, Horton, Kirkby Stephen and Carlisle.

Sheffield to Blackpool North
Calling at: Chinley, Stockport, Manchester Picc, Manchester O.R, Bolton, Chorley, Preston, Poulton le Fylde and Blackpool North.

Sheffield to Southport
Calling at: Chinley, Stockport, Manchester Picc, Manchester Oxford Road, Deansgate, Bolton, Wigan Wallgate, Burscough Bridge and Southport.

Blackpool North to Cleethorpes
Calling at: Preston, Chorley, Bolton, Manchester Picc, Manchester OR, Stockport, Sheffield, Doncaster, Scunthorpe and Cleethorpes.

Manchester Victoria to Colne
Calling at: Rochdale, Littleborough, Walsden, Todmorden, Burnley MR, Burnley Barracks, Burnley Central, Brierfield Nelson and Colne.

Then as a fun one...

Penzance to Wick
Calling at: Truro, Plymouth, Exeter St Davids, Bristol Temple Meads, Cheltenham Spa, Birmingham New Street, Wolverhampton, Crewe, Preston, Lancaster, Penrith, Carlisle, Glasgow, Stirling, Perth, Inverness, Dingwall, Thurso and Wick. I'm not serious one bit about this

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Nuneaton - Leamington Spa.

Nuneaton, Bermuda Park*, Bedworth, Coventry Arena*, Coventry, Kenilworth*, Leamington Spa.


*New stations.

 

[Ivo]

Nuneaton - Leamington Spa.

Nuneaton, Bermuda Park*, Bedworth, Coventry Arena*, Coventry, Kenilworth*, Leamington Spa.


*New stations.

This one actually looks to be quite sensible! However, I seem to have lost my Birmingham map AGAIN and thus cannot check the location of Bermuda Park, although I know of proposals for a station at the Ricoh and of course Kenilworth.

But come on guys; even I'm getting bored of these threads! Without the maths of trying to discern these services' viability, they're becoming rather tasteless. And this is coming from the user who is probably the primary source of this stuff on here!

Maybe I'm just being miserable at the moment...

 

[Masbroughlad]

Then as a fun one...

Penzance to Wick
Calling at: Truro, Plymouth, Exeter St Davids, Bristol Temple Meads, Cheltenham Spa, Birmingham New Street, Wolverhampton, Crewe, Preston, Lancaster, Penrith, Carlisle, Glasgow, Stirling, Perth, Inverness, Dingwall, Thurso and Wick. I'm not serious one bit about this

What is the longest distance service that has ever run from Penzance? Aberdeen? Inverness or further north?!

Sorry off thread, but interested!

 

[NSE]

Well from a personal point of view I think NXEA don't run enough services from Cambridge. Therefore I would like to see them run a faster service to London. Calling at:

Whittlesford Parkway
Audley End
Bishops Stortford
Liverpool Street

and also a shuttle between Stansted Airport calling at all stations. Personally 1 tph between Cambridge and Stansted is poor, especially as it has 2 or 3 carriages only, and two of the busiest stations for NXEA and they don't even run the direct service!
These may not be able to happen, but they are realistic possible future plans.
However, for my other service, I still back my Trans-Thames Kent/Essex crossing. Some of you may recall it from the OAO thread.

 

[Waverley125]

on a serious note, i don't see the point of the Leeds-Victoria stoppers.

So I'd run a Bradford-Liverpool fast instead

Bradford Interchange
Halifax
Todmorden
Manchester Victoria
Newton le Willows
Liverpool Lime Street

 

[martinsh]

on a serious note, i don't see the point of the Leeds-Victoria stoppers.

So I'd run a Bradford-Liverpool fast instead

Bradford Interchange
Halifax
Todmorden
Manchester Victoria
Newton le Willows
Liverpool Lime Street

Don't you like Rochdale ?:?

Also stops at Hebden Bridge and Salford would make my friend's daily commute much easier !!

 

[The_Rail_WAy]

Preston - Manchester stations via Leyland, Euxton, Wigan NW, Ince, Hindley, (Crows nest Junction) via Westhoughton/Atherton onwards.

As far as I'm aware this potential route has never been used and it could provide relief to extremeley busy commuter routes.