Different Driver Depot, Route and Traction cards

[tiptoptaff]

No problem, thanks.
It may vary by company but I believe it’s usually listed separately. E.g. Class 800, Class 801.

GWR list it as 800/2

Similarly turbos are listed as 165/6

In both cases, the 16x and 80x are treated, trained and taught as one traction.

 

[craigybagel]

As I understand, after years of being told their depot work was daft, Hornsey Outer Link is now also signing 717s (and do inner work again), and they also sign for Three Bridges and Peterborough...

As far as i'm aware Grand Central drivers don't sign Leeds station anymore, they come close but when they go Bradford-Wakefield Kirkgate via New pudsey they curve off at Whitehall junction just outside Leeds then around to Engine shed junction and Kirkgate that way and don't go into Leeds station anymore since they stopped running services for Northern between Hebden Bridge and Leeds.

Thanks, I'll get them updated when I can.

Edit: sorry another question popped into my head! Would it be down as 80x on a tractions card ( I understand that’s the correct lingo) or would 801 and 800 be separate there?
Sorry for the bombardment and if you don’t know, no sweat but it’s worth asking!

I've no idea what their traction cards say exactly, though I strongly suspect it'll be 800,801,802 or whatever listed separately depending on which ones are signed by that TOCs drivers. 80x is just a term I used to save listing them separately.

New ScotRail depot (drivers and conductors) as of June, at Leven. I don't know what route they'll sign besides the obvious, but other depots learning the Leven branch are Edinburgh (link specific), Dundee (all), and Perth (all).

Thanks for that, I'll add these in as soon as I can. I wonder will Tweedbank be learning it as well, given they already do some Fife Circle work?

GWR list it as 800/2

Similarly turbos are listed as 165/6

In both cases, the 16x and 80x are treated, trained and taught as one traction.

Thanks, that confirms my suspicions.

 

[Eastern Farmer]

Thanks again to all that contributed to answering my questions. I do find it rather interesting to read.

 

[Geeves]

Checked with the DSM here at Manchester Victoria. Blackpool definitely don't sign from Blackburn to Clitheroe now, the Dales rail was their only hurrar. Its covered entirely by Victoria and Blackburn as it stands. Cheers!

 

[Purple Train]

Small point - if you're organising the top post alphabetically, shouldn't Hull Trains come after GWR rather than before?

 

[RockyH]

Chiltern's Banbury drivers no longer sign Princes Risborough to Aylesbury.

 

[craigybagel]

As I understand, after years of being told their depot work was daft, Hornsey Outer Link is now also signing 717s (and do inner work again), and they also sign for Three Bridges and Peterborough...

Thanks, I've added their new fleet link in.

As far as i'm aware Grand Central drivers don't sign Leeds station anymore, they come close but when they go Bradford-Wakefield Kirkgate via New pudsey they curve off at Whitehall junction just outside Leeds then around to Engine shed junction and Kirkgate that way and don't go into Leeds station anymore since they stopped running services for Northern between Hebden Bridge and Leeds.

Thanks, that makes sense. All references to Leeds duly deleted.

This is a separate link to the Outer Link, named as the “Fleet Link”.

Thanks, as above I've added it in now.

Checked with the DSM here at Manchester Victoria. Blackpool definitely don't sign from Blackburn to Clitheroe now, the Dales rail was their only hurrar. Its covered entirely by Victoria and Blackburn as it stands. Cheers!

Thanks, that makes more sense. Have deleted.

Small point - if you're organising the top post alphabetically, shouldn't Hull Trains come after GWR rather than before?

Very true, I'm not sure how that happened I've swapped them over.

Chiltern's Banbury drivers no longer sign Princes Risborough to Aylesbury.

Interesting. What's the reasoning for that I wonder? I've deleted it now anyway - you got in just in time for my monthly clean up.

 

[Watershed]

What's the reasoning for that I wonder?

Suspect it's due to that route being (mostly) reduced to a shuttle service from Aylesbury. So it's no longer efficient for a Banbury driver to work that route - they'd need to pass between London or Banbury and Princes Risborough before working the service.

Of course it also means Chiltern will find it much harder to divert the Birmingham services via Aylesbury when the High Wycombe route is closed (whether through engineering works or on the day). They seem to have given up doing this in recent years.

 

[Efini92]

Checked with the DSM here at Manchester Victoria. Blackpool definitely don't sign from Blackburn to Clitheroe now, the Dales rail was their only hurrar. Its covered entirely by Victoria and Blackburn as it stands. Cheers!

They’re out learning it again now.

 

[scouseyb123]

TPE Preston only sign Wigan-Liverpool Lime Street via St Helens Ctl., not via Earlestown

 

[John745]

Ipswich-based drivers sign 720s for the Ipswich - Liverpool Street and Manningtree - Harwich.

 

[dk1]

Ipswich-based drivers sign 720s for the Ipswich - Liverpool Street and Manningtree - Harwich.

Do they? I wasn’t aware that Ipswich like Norwich signed 720s. They only do Manningtree (usually the north curve) to Harwich International with 755s or to Parkeston Yard with 745s.

 

[John745]

I might be wrong - I assumed Manningtree to Harwich meant Harwich Town, which 720s operate.

 

[Urobach]

TPE

Manchester Piccadilly Hull link learning 802 plus Liverpool via Chat Moss in preparation for 802s being used on Hull services.

Hull depot learning 802s for same reason

Manchester Victoria to Huddersfield/Heaton Lodge Junction via Calder Valley, Thornhill Junction to Leeds via Normanton, Leeds to York via Castleford and Altofts Junction to Whitwood Junction are diversions for Manchester Piccadilly Scarborough and Hull links.

 

[dk1]

I might be wrong - I assumed Manningtree to Harwich meant Harwich Town, which 720s operate.

Ah okay but Ipswich do not sign 720s.

The only GA (Anglia Railways) depot that signs them is Liverpool Street.

 

[craigybagel]

I might be wrong - I assumed Manningtree to Harwich meant Harwich Town, which 720s operate.

Ah okay but Ipswich do not sign 720s.

The only GA (Anglia Railways) depot that signs them is Liverpool Street.

To be fair, that's my fault. When I first put the details for Ipswich in I wasn't sure if they only signed to International or all the way to Town - and at the time they signed 321s so it was less obvious what the answer was. From my base far away from East Anglia on the other side of the country it seemed plausible to me that Ipswich would sign Town, but not guaranteed, so I left it non descript and never got around to changing it once the fact they never learned 720s made it more obvious they only signed to International.

TPE Preston only sign Wigan-Liverpool Lime Street via St Helens Ctl., not via Earlestown

TPE

Manchester Piccadilly Hull link learning 802 plus Liverpool via Chat Moss in preparation for 802s being used on Hull services.

Hull depot learning 802s for same reason

Manchester Victoria to Huddersfield/Heaton Lodge Junction via Calder Valley, Thornhill Junction to Leeds via Normanton, Leeds to York via Castleford and Altofts Junction to Whitwood Junction are diversions for Manchester Piccadilly Scarborough and Hull links.

Thanks, I'll get these changed next time I get chance.

 

[dk1]

To be fair, that's my fault. When I first put the details for Ipswich in I wasn't sure if they only signed to International or all the way to Town - and at the time they signed 321s so it was less obvious what the answer was. From my base far away from East Anglia on the other side of the country it seemed plausible to me that Ipswich would sign Town, but not guaranteed, so I left it non descript and never got around to changing it once the fact they never learned 720s made it more obvious they only signed to International.

To be fair certain links at both Ipswich & Norwich started training 720s just before the pandemic. Two double units where to stable each night in Norwich Victoria Sidings with two diagrams starting from Norwich SX & one SO. This was suddenly aborted and has not been required since.

 

[WombleGuard]

Hi. SWR Strawberry Hill signing Byfleet Curve starting June.

 

[TEW]

SWR Bournemouth can delete 158/9 and Salisbury add Southampton Central to Bournemouth Depot (link dependant) too.

 

[westcoaster]

Thameslink Luton changes

Now just one link

No longer sign
Three bridges to Brighton
Sutton loop

Routes are now

Bedford to Three Bridges
Luton to Rainham
Plus all relevant diversions

 

[Class2ldn]

Thameslink Luton changes

Now just one link

No longer sign
Three bridges to Brighton
Sutton loop

Routes are now

Bedford to Three Bridges
Luton to Rainham
Plus all relevant diversions

Just when you think they couldn't have it much worse

 

[172007]

WMT drivers at Birmingham Snow Hill no longer sign Hatton South Curve as there is no booked depot work over it.

 

[Horizon22]

Just when you think they couldn't have it much worse

Oof yeah that’s a dire route card!

 

[800301]

Paddington LTV

Greenford and Windsor's branches are now only signed by Link 1 and 2 drivers (Which are ironically the lower links) Link 3 and 4 drivers have the option to sign off the branches or keep them for 6 months but either way, they no longer have any booked work on them

 

[8J]

Some corrections to TPE Liverpool Lime St and Manchester Piccadilly depots

Liverpool Lime Street
Traction:
185, 802
Routes:
Liverpool - Leeds via Manchester Victoria and Huddersfield
Manchester Victoria - Leeds via Hebden Bridge (diversion)
Mirfield - Leeds via Wakefield Kirkgate (diversion)
Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport via the Ordsall Chord
Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge
Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central

Manchester Piccadilly
Traction:
All sign 185. West Coast link adds 397, Hull Link currently learning Class 802s
Routes
Manchester Piccadilly - York via Manchester Victoria or Guide Bridge, Huddersfield and Leeds (Hull & Scarborough Links)
Manchester - Liverpool via Chat Moss/Warrington Central (Scarborough link)
Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport via the Ordsall Chord (All links)
York - Scarborough (Scarborough Link)
Micklefield - Hull (Hull Link)
Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge (Hull & Scarborough Links)
Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central. (Scarborough Link)
Manchester Airport - Carlisle via Bolton & Preston (West Coast link)
Manchester Piccadilly - Sheffield (Scarborough link)

 

[craigybagel]

Thank you everyone for keeping me informed of recent updates - my apologies for not having been able to update the list yet but I will get to it as soon as possible.

 

[InkyScrolls]

Thank you everyone for keeping me informed of recent updates - my apologies for not having been able to update the list yet but I will get to it as soon as possible.

Thank you for keeping it up to date! It is very much appreciated.

A slight update is Northern: Blackburn. They now sign Clitheroe through to Blea Moor as of the timetable change.

 

[craigybagel]

Thank you for keeping it up to date! It is very much appreciated.

A slight update is Northern: Blackburn. They now sign Clitheroe through to Blea Moor as of the timetable change.

Thank you and thank you.

I've done my ~monthly update this evening, although this does mean annoyingly that with the opening of Leven for Scotrail, we no longer have the list 100% complete! So if anybody has details on where the drivers there will go, which links at Edinburgh will sign the line - and as always, any other changes that need doing, please let me know.

 

[scouseyb123]

Thank you and thank you.

I've done my ~monthly update this evening, although this does mean annoyingly that with the opening of Leven for Scotrail, we no longer have the list 100% complete! So if anybody has details on where the drivers there will go, which links at Edinburgh will sign the line - and as always, any other changes that need doing, please let me know.

Hi I left one recently but may have been missed from your latest update, Preston TPE don’t sign via Earlestown (only via St Helens Central) thanks!

 

[Cails27]

Thank you and thank you.

I've done my ~monthly update this evening, although this does mean annoyingly that with the opening of Leven for Scotrail, we no longer have the list 100% complete! So if anybody has details on where the drivers there will go, which links at Edinburgh will sign the line - and as always, any other changes that need doing, please let me know.

All drivers at Edinburgh sign the Leven branch. Not all the Edinburgh guards do but don’t know which links though.

Leven drivers sign 158, 170 & 385 traction and their routes are:
Leven - Edinburgh (via Kirkcaldy and via Dunfermline)
Edinburgh - Dunblane
Edinburgh - Queen St (via Falkirk High)