Why do railway staff make a big issue of standing behind the line on platforms?...

[GB]

...this is one reason why!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...brake-hits-passengers/articleshow/8920990.cms

 

[Stigy]

It's also classed as lineside or on or near the line if you are not behind the yellow line (can't recall which of the top of my head)

 

[ANorthernGuard]

its quite simple, an express goes past at 100mph you have an open coat or scarve etc etc the suction caused pulls you towards the train, clothing gets caught you die....SIMPLE

 

[185]

Ow!

 

[CliveJones]

Id say its good to set an example.

Also the people who work on the railway generally are more aware of just how dangerous it is and how contact with even a slow moving train can lead to appalling injuries. Fast moving is pretty much obliteration.

 

[MCR247]

its quite simple, an express goes past at 100mph you have an open coat or scarve etc etc the suction caused pulls you towards the train, clothing gets caught you die....SIMPLE

Have you tried reading the whole thread, including the link?

 

[ANorthernGuard]

Have you tried reading the whole thread, including the link?

haven't read it, that was through my experience (had a prat with a buggy too close to the platform the other day, almost dragged the buggy..scared the s**te outta me

just read it...ouch!

 

[GB]

It's also classed as lineside or on or near the line if you are not behind the yellow line (can't recall which of the top of my head)

Platforms are exempt from the definition of "on or near the line" unless you are carrying out work within 1.25m of the platform edge. Being on a platform is not classed as being lineside.

 

[Hydro]

its quite simple, an express goes past at 100mph you have an open coat or scarve etc etc the suction caused pulls you towards the train, clothing gets caught you die....SIMPLE

I have to say, I've never been sucked towards a passing train when I worked on the track. I've had to stand bang on the 4ft rule at times with trains passing at 100mph and freight screaming by at 75mph. You get seriously buffeted (more so with freight trains, especially intermodals and their horrific aerodynamics) but only pulled towards the track after the train passes as the air rushes back to fill the space left by the train. There's probably more risk of losing your balance due to the turbulence, which I have disconcertingly experienced a few times, certainly in cuttings.

The above is certainly no endorsement for standing over the line when trains pass, because it's there for a reason; the turbulence is strong.

 

[ANorthernGuard]

its more of the dragging of clothing, ive seen that alot

 

[Hydro]

its more of the dragging of clothing, ive seen that alot

Agreed, our issue HV vests are held together with poppers so that they tear off you if caught by a passing train. Though you're screwed if you're wearing a fleece, jacket or bodywarmer

 

[Class172]

No yellow line at my station because every train stood there. Even when a freight train passes through it's only at 30mph due to Droitwich Jct

 

[FGWman]

It's also classed as lineside or on or near the line if you are not behind the yellow line (can't recall which of the top of my head)

No its not. Its neither.

 

[185]

Freightliner were in trouble some time ago after running a train through Manchester with a chunk of metal hanging of the side, projecting 2 foot out through Platform 14 at Ma Piccadilly.

 

[NLC1072]

Ouch!... I'm always telling people not to stand too close... got a link to give them now!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Freightliner were in trouble some time ago after running a train through Manchester with a chunk of metal hanging of the side, projecting 2 foot out through Platform 14 at Ma Piccadilly.

This is the method used by the war charioteers of the Assyrian Empire to carve large gaps through opposing infantry.

On a more serious note, all the Freightliner trains are supposed to be fully checked for such matters prior to their departure, so this very dangerous occurance must have occurred whilst in transit.

But we don't have brake vans with a diligent person in charge these days, just a red light on the last rolling flat-bed.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

No yellow line at my station because every train stood there. Even when a freight train passes through it's only at 30mph due to Droitwich Jct

It's 40 mph both directions through the station, the 30mph starts at the junction but only for the Bromsgrove route where the fast trains go

 

[M60lad]

Most stations have automated messages telling you that the next train through the station doesnt stop there, but one thing I've noticed recently is despite having the Yellow Line this annoucement dosent seem to be made as often as it used to be at Wigan Northwestern Station which sees plenty of freight using it and the odd Virgin Train going through non-stop

 

[CosherB]

There's so much garbage spouted by almost continuous automatic announcements at Picc, Ox Rd, and Deansgate (and no doubt many others) that they all get ignored.

When you get nannying stuff like 'please take care as due to wet weather, platforms may be slippery' and lots of other gormless stuff, one after the other, peole just switch off and miss the important ones.

If the announcements were limited to 'the next train does not stop here. Please stand behind the yellow lines' they would be heeded!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Most stations have automated messages telling you that the next train through the station doesnt stop there, but one thing I've noticed recently is despite having the Yellow Line this annoucement dosent seem to be made as often as it used to be at Wigan Northwestern Station which sees plenty of freight using it and the odd Virgin Train going through non-stop

That is a very worrying state of affairs, considering the number of through lines at Wigan North Western, which is quite an important station on the WCML.

That said, they will never have this problem at Wigan Wallgate.

 

[O L Leigh]

I do feel a bit of a wally rolling through Hackney Downs P3 or P4 non-stop and hearing the announcement telling the Great Unwashed to "...stand well back from the platform edge" due to "...a fast train approaching".

Linespeed there is just 15mph.

O L Leigh

 

[Nym]

Northallerton? Heh

 

[David Dunning]

Northallerton? Heh

I use Northallerton occasionally . It must be a pretty scary for the drivers of 125s going thru there when people get too close to the edge. However to the best of my knowledge no one has ever been sucked off the platform there

 

[Hydro]

However to the best of my knowledge no one has ever been sucked off the platform there

Not this side of ten Bacardis anyhow if the local birds are anything to go by.

 

[Crossover]

Would I be correct in thinking the line may have also been there from the days of slammers to avoid punters getting wiped out by impatient punters who would open the doors before stopping (pre CDL)?

 

[Stigy]

Platforms are exempt from the definition of "on or near the line" unless you are carrying out work within 1.25m of the platform edge. Being on a platform is not classed as being lineside.

The platform area in general is exempt, I agree. However I was told during a PTS course that the area beyond the yellow line was classed as on or near the line.

 

[GB]

Rule Book Module G section 6:

Operational railway
The term operational railway includes the area called on the
lineside and the area called on or near the line.

The lineside
You are on the lineside (shown green in diagram G1.1) if:
• you are between the railway boundary fence and the area called
on or near the line, and
• you can be seen by the driver of an approaching train.

You are not on the lineside if you are on a station platform.

On or near the line
You are on or near the line (shown orange in diagram G1.1) if you
are:
• within 3 metres (10 feet) of a line and there is no permanent
fence or structure between you and the line
• on the line itself.

You are not on or near the line if you are on a station platform
unless you are carrying out engineering or technical work within
1.25 metres (4 feet) of the platform edge.

You are not on or near the line if you are crossing the line at a
level crossing.

 

[Clip]

I remember once when a Hull trains service left KX with the stop board still attached.. Good job someone noticed it leaving and it got sorted at Finsbury park IIRC.

 

[SWTCommuter]

Would I be correct in thinking the line may have also been there from the days of slammers to avoid punters getting wiped out by impatient punters who would open the doors before stopping (pre CDL)?

If I remember correctly, they were first introduced in the 1970s along the GWML when the HSTs came into service.

 

[142094]

I remember once when a Hull trains service left KX with the stop board still attached.. Good job someone noticed it leaving and it got sorted at Finsbury park IIRC.

This has happened with GC out of the Cross as well. Very lucky that no-one was working underneath the train.