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[JumpinTrainz]

Dublin are allegedly getting the former Jurassic Coaster branded Enviro 400MMCs from Weymouth and the former Airport Cities to replace the Jurassics at Weymouth.

Thanks for the update. Last I heard the E400MMCs were a temporary measure until the E400City’s could be released due to ongoing shortages at Glasgow then they would go to Dublin and the E400MMCs would return back to Weymouth. Does seem odd for 10 year old buses to do airport duties over other buses which are already airport spec.

 

[camro]

Thanks for the update. Last I heard the E400MMCs were a temporary measure until the E400City’s could be released due to ongoing shortages at Glasgow then they would go to Dublin and the E400MMCs would return back to Weymouth. Does seem odd for 10 year old buses to do airport duties over other buses which are already airport spec.

It's a shame we're losing those City's given the current situation. Speaking of that, it seems that all the 200EVs which were deemed fine are back already, whereas the ones that aren't back are going to be away for a long while.

Also been thinking about the Bradford Urbans - they were withdrawn from FBRA service before they got sent up, so what happens when FGLA eventually return them? Will FBRA just use them again until they run out of MOT?

 

[route101]

It's a shame we're losing those City's given the current situation. Speaking of that, it seems that all the 200EVs which were deemed fine are back already, whereas the ones that aren't back are going to be away for a long while.

Also been thinking about the Bradford Urbans - they were withdrawn from FBRA service before they got sent up, so what happens when FGLA eventually return them? Will FBRA just use them again until they run out of MOT?

Always a shame to lose doube deckers.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Always a shame to lose doube deckers.

Glasgow don’t tend to keep their airport stock. Both the E300s and E200MMCs went down South so I’m not really surprised.

 

[duffers2324]

ALL First Glasgow services to be suspended between 8am and 6pm tomorrow due to the red weather warning for wind across the central belt.

In light of the red weather warning in place across Greater Glasgow, and advice from Police Scotland we will be temporarily suspending all services from 8am tomorrow.
Services will not resume before 6pm, pending the status of the weather warning and we will continually assess the safety of our routes before these are reinstated.
Following guidance, we encourage all passengers not to travel on Friday 24th January. These measures have been implemented with the safety of our people, and passengers in mind.
Our website will be updated as information is available, and our Twitter/X Feed will also display updates as the situation evolves.
For more information, please visit our website; FirstGlasgow.com

First i have ever seen this being enacted....

 

[camro]

ALL First Glasgow services to be suspended between 8am and 6pm tomorrow due to the red weather warning for wind across the central belt.

In light of the red weather warning in place across Greater Glasgow, and advice from Police Scotland we will be temporarily suspending all services from 8am tomorrow.
Services will not resume before 6pm, pending the status of the weather warning and we will continually assess the safety of our routes before these are reinstated.
Following guidance, we encourage all passengers not to travel on Friday 24th January. These measures have been implemented with the safety of our people, and passengers in mind.
Our website will be updated as information is available, and our Twitter/X Feed will also display updates as the situation evolves.
For more information, please visit our website; FirstGlasgow.com

First i have ever seen this being enacted....

They'll probably get the chance to blitz a few repaint jobs tomorrow

 

[LT02 NVV]

Are the three E200s that are coming up from other First depots staying with Glasgow (since their sister buses already work in Glasgow)? Or are they just cover?

Numbers are 44455-57 BTW.

 

[Joerf21]

Any news of service changes over next couple months

 

[LT02 NVV]

Any news of service changes over next couple months

Not that I know off.

 

[route101]

When was the last new route in Glasgow?

 

[LT02 NVV]

When was the last new route in Glasgow?

Technically I think it’s the 398 if First getting it back counts.

 

[route101]

I reckon its the X4? The 77 was a new route.

 

[Metal Mickey]

Any news of service changes over next couple months

Best checking Vosa everyday.

 

[LT02 NVV]

I reckon its the X4? The 77 was a new route.

Nah, the 77 is just the 747, except it stops at The Queen Elisabeth Hospital. Plus, the 77 has been around for a while now.

 

[Metal Mickey]

I reckon it’s the X4? The 77 was a new route.

Which was the 747 renumbered at the time QEUH opened.

 

[Bedford OB]

Which was the 747 renumbered at the time QEUH opened.

Strictly speaking, the last new services will have been the seasonal X7 and 247 which started 29 June 2024 and ran until 13 August.

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

Strictly speaking, the last new services will have been the seasonal X7 and 247 which started 29 June 2024 and ran until 13 August.

There seasonal services they run most years

 

[route101]

Strictly speaking, the last new services will have been the seasonal X7 and 247 which started 29 June 2024 and ran until 13 August.

The X7 to me is a returning service.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

I reckon its the X4? The 77 was a new route.

I was dubious of the X4 at first but it seems to have stood the test of time and whenever I see it flying up the express way it seems to carry good numbers.

38600 is now tracking on bus times

 

[camro]

I was dubious of the X4 at first but it seems to have stood the test of time and whenever I see it flying up the express way it seems to carry good numbers.

38600 is now tracking on bus times

All Caledonia loanees are now tracking on bustimes. A couple of Blantyre ones too.

It looks like 38400 is away now as it hasn't been out for a while, but no official confirmation yet. And 70101 hasn't been out for a few days either.

It seems that the purposes for loans have been more or less decided. The B7RLE's are bound to the 19 and 34 unless needed elsewhere, 33693 has done the 5 exclusively since it came up (a shame if that's all it's allowed to do) and 38600 is being treated the same as the native leccys, can go anywhere but preferably not routes that use the motorway.

As for these Cymru E200s, no idea what's happening with them.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Is 64108 back in service or is that a tracking error?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Is 64108 back in service or is that a tracking error?

Yes was on a 75 today saw it twice, in the ultraviolet livery too

All Caledonia loanees are now tracking on bustimes. A couple of Blantyre ones too.

It looks like 38400 is away now as it hasn't been out for a while, but no official confirmation yet. And 70101 hasn't been out for a few days either.

It seems that the purposes for loans have been more or less decided. The B7RLE's are bound to the 19 and 34 unless needed elsewhere, 33693 has done the 5 exclusively since it came up (a shame if that's all it's allowed to do) and 38600 is being treated the same as the native leccys, can go anywhere but preferably not routes that use the motorway.

As for these Cymru E200s, no idea what's happening with them.

The new E400EVs can do over 50mph so they would be fine to go on the motorway

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Yes was on a 75 today saw it twice, in the ultraviolet livery too


The new E400EVs can do over 50mph so they would be fine to go on the motorway

I also see lots of the EVs on the X85/X87 and X3 both singles and doubles.

 

[camro]

The new E400EVs can do over 50mph so they would be fine to go on the motorway

I also see lots of the EVs on the X85/X87 and X3 both singles and doubles.

Hence why I said "preferably," they're permitted to go out on motorway routes but the diesel fleet is prioritised due to the poor top speed of the leccys, glad to hear the new demonstrator is somewhat faster though.

 

[SarahDFIG]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Cymru E200s end up at Overtown and in return lose more E200MMCs (68 plate examples) this time.

 

[Volvodart]

33693 has done the 5 exclusively since it came up (a shame if that's all it's allowed to do)

33693 does not appear to have a hopper, so that may be why its use is restricted.

Any news of service changes over next couple months

Here you go

First Bus to improve reliability of services in Dumbarton, Balloch and Helensburgh | FirstBus Scotland News

News from FirstBus Scotland

news-scot.firstbus.co.uk

First Bus to improve reliability of services in Dumbarton, Balloch and Helensburgh​

First Bus has unveiled a series of changes to its Dumbarton routes aimed at improving service punctuality and enhancing local connections. As part of these changes, additional routes will be introduced to better serve Balloch and Helensburgh, ensuring more reliable travel options for passengers.
From Sunday 2nd March, First Bus Service 1/A will now operate an improved frequency between Dumbarton town centre and Glasgow. New 204/205 local routes will be introduced to serve Balloch, replacing the Service 1/A sections of the current route to ensure more reliable connections and more streamlined coverage for our customers. Finally, Service 206 will extend from Westcliff to serve Helensburgh, replacing the current Service 1B.
Passengers who currently travel from Glasgow to Balloch or Helensburgh using current Service 1, 1A or 1B will need to change bus in Dumbarton town centre to a 204/205 or 206 to reach their destination.
Service 1E will continue to operate between Balloch and Glasgow and will now travel directly between Clydebank and Yoker via Glasgow Road.
Service M11 will be renamed as Service 11 and will cover the Mountblow to Gartnavel Hospital route via Clydebank, replacing Service 1D.
Chris Coleman, Head of Network for First Bus in Glasgow, said: “We have been working hard to create a bus network that suits the needs of our customers, and we believe these changes to Service 1 alongside the introduction of the additional services will create a reliable and more convenient service for our customers in Dumbarton, Balloch and Helensburgh.
“The introduction of the 204/205 to serve Balloch and the extension of the 206 to Helensburgh will create better local connections in the area while also improving the experience for our customers.”
First Bus will be working hard to update customer information, including bus stops, as quickly as possible with the new timetable information, but it encourages everyone to use the First Bus app for the most up-to-date timetable and live bus tracking information.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

33693 does not appear to have a hopper, so that may be why its use is restricted.


Here you go

First Bus to improve reliability of services in Dumbarton, Balloch and Helensburgh | FirstBus Scotland News

News from FirstBus Scotland

news-scot.firstbus.co.uk

Certainly makes it easier to electrify the route. I thought they might need to split that route eventually.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Any news of service changes over next couple months

Changes to the 1 have been announced, to take effect from 2nd March:

From Sunday 2nd March 2025, the following changes will be implemented to improve the reliability and connectivity of our Dumbarton services. Timetables will be available soon to allow passengers to plan their travel.
Service 1 will operate an improved frequency between Dumbarton, West Bridgend to Glasgow City Centre via Dumbarton (Church Street), St James Retail Park, Bowling, Old Kilpatrick, Clydebank and Scotstoun.
Service 1A will operate an improved frequency between Dumbarton, West Bridgend to Glasgow City Centre via Dumbarton (Church Street), Bellsmyre, Bowling, Old Kilpatrick, Clydebank and Scotstoun.
Service 1B will no longer operate. Service 206 will extend from Westcliff to serve Helensburgh.
Service 1C will be unchanged, operating from Drumchapel to Glasgow City Centre via Garscadden and Scotstoun.
Service 1D will no longer operate. Mountblow and Dalmuir (Duntocher Road) will now be served by Service 11.
Service 1E will continue to operate from Balloch to Glasgow City Centre, with a revised route in Clydebank. Barns Street and East Barns Street will no longer be served by Service 1E, instead, it will operate via Glasgow Road to/from Yoker then Scotstoun to City Centre.
Service 11 will be introduced to replace 1D in Mountblow, Dalmuir (Duntocher Road), Second Avenue, Clydebank. Service 11 will operate from Mountblow to Gartnavel Hospital via Dalmuir, Clydebank, Kelso Street, Dunwan Avenue, Dyke Road and Anniesland.
Service 204 will be introduced and operate from Balloch to Dumbarton ASDA via Haldane (Cook Road), Napierston Road, Alexandria, Renton and Dumbarton (Church Street).
Service 205 will be introduced and operate from Balloch to Dumbarton ASDA via Haldane (Cook Road), Vale of Leven Hospital, Alexandria, Renton and Dumbarton (Church Street).
Service 206 will operate from Haldane to Westcliff or Helensburgh via Balloch, Tullichewan, Alexandria, Bonhill (Ladyton Shops), Bellsmyre, Dumbarton (Church Street), Westcliff or continue to Helensburgh via Cardross.
Service 208 will be unchanged.

Changes to Service 1 from Sunday 2nd March

Changes to Service 1 from Sunday 2nd March 2024 Changes will be introduced to selected Dumbarton routes, aimed at improving service punctuality and enhancing local connections. As part of these changes, additional routes will be introduced to better serve Balloch and Helensburgh, ensuring more...

www.firstbus.co.uk

 

[Joerf21]

Heard service 1c will swop from dumbarton depot to scotstown, so will probibly get deckers back on the 1c route

 

[ScotRail158725]

Heard service 1c will swop from dumbarton depot to scotstown, so will probibly get deckers back on the 1c route

Thats happening

Certainly makes it easier to electrify the route. I thought they might need to split that route eventually.

Makes it easier to palm off Dumbarton to McGills. The Dumbarton local stuff kept separate from the lucrative 1/1A and the 1C/11 being run from Scotstoun palm that off as a quick sale to McGills, wise move and likely the reason behind it to try and get a sale of Dumbarton