EMR Regional and Connect refurbishments

[dk1]

856 was the unit that also received major collision repairs after hitting a bridge at Barrow Upon Soar, I believe*. At the time of the incident, it was in Central Trains livery, when it returned to service, it had been refurbished in East Midlands Trains style. It seems this unit has a mishap every time it wants a makeover.

Yeah I recall hearing that. Unlucky old machine.

 

[RealTrains07]

Its probably already been mentioned but is there an update on when the first 360 will go for refurb or is the regional units first then connect units?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

170501 is progressing well with its refurb at Crewe depot. All seats have been removed inside and one half of the unit has lost it's purple livery. Apparently it's having some colour to do with heat so I'm told.

 

[bunnahabhain]

170501 is progressing well with its refurb at Crewe depot. All seats have been removed inside and one half of the unit has lost it's purple livery. Apparently it's having some colour to do with heat so I'm told.

The doors attract a lot of solar gain in the summer, so they're looking at a reflective paint on those to try to reduce the load on the aircon.

 

[Trainman40083]

170501 is progressing well with its refurb at Crewe depot. All seats have been removed inside and one half of the unit has lost it's purple livery. Apparently it's having some colour to do with heat so I'm told.

Wasn't that the unit in Pride livery?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Wasn't that the unit in Pride livery?

Yes, Half of it still is in Pride livery.

 

[tram21]

Wasn't that the unit in Pride livery?

It was, hopefully it'll regain it

 

[RealTrains07]

The doors attract a lot of solar gain in the summer, so they're looking at a reflective paint on those to try to reduce the load on the aircon.

Thats interesting, Do we know why its specifically the grey colour on the doors that has the problem and not the dark purple on the body?

 

[ClivePage]

I take the so-called Luton Airport Express services fairly often and when you log in to their wifi it often says "welecome to Greater Anglia". I wonder if their refurbishment programme will extend to altering that?

 

[bunnahabhain]

Thats interesting, Do we know why its specifically the grey colour on the doors that has the problem and not the dark purple on the body?

It isn't the current colour at all but was built into the fleet in the 1990s at the design stage.

 

[Blindtraveler]

I've often thought that the doors on those units feel quite hot to touch when it's sunny and higher temperatures, so this is clearly a longer term issue, would it be worth? I wonder looking at an entirely new door design and retrofitting? Or are they now too old to make it worth the money?

 

[LowLevel]

At least one half of 158847 is now purple with grey air dams. Picture shows the vehicle.

 

[tram21]

At least one half of 158847 is now purple with grey air dams. Picture shows the vehicle.

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Now that looks lovely!!

 

[Jamesrob637]

How many 158s are currently in EMR purple? Two?

 

[Trainman40083]

How many 158s are currently in EMR purple? Two?

158773/158774 are in a aubergine and white livery . 158847 is half in aubergine

 

[43066]

At least one half of 158847 is now purple with grey air dams. Picture shows the vehicle.

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Thanks for sharing that. Looks to be coming along very nicely!

 

[dk1]

Thanks for sharing that. Looks to be coming along very nicely!

I concur with that.

 

[fgwrich]

At least one half of 158847 is now purple with grey air dams. Picture shows the vehicle.

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Grey air dams do make it look a little ‘northern’, perhaps black ala SWT would look a little better? Otherwise very smart.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

The seats look good and smart on 170501.

 

[Chiltern006]

Have you got a picture?

 

[Liam L]

Have you got a picture?

I tried before on discord chat, he won't share understandably

 

[ScottGallagher]

Has hallmarks of Northern Spririt TPE livery from 25 years ago!

 

[tram21]

Just wondering, with these refurbishment have they been done slowly to ensure they get everything right the first time then they'll speed up for the rest of the fleet? Because it's taking an incredibly long time!

 

[Chiltern006]

I would guess so. The first Avanti pendolino took well over 6 months to finish, by the end they were churning them out 1 a fortnight (?).

 

[Bald Rick]

Just wondering, with these refurbishment have they been done slowly to ensure they get everything right the first time then they'll speed up for the rest of the fleet? Because it's taking an incredibly long time!

It’s like putting up an IKEA wardrobe - the first one takes ages as you have to follow all the instructions and workout which bits go where, which tools are best to use, and make various mistakes. By wardrobe three it takes 20 minutes.

I’ll leave others to come up with allegorical punchlines.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Have you got a picture?

No because I don't want to get into trouble.

 

[LowLevel]

Amongst other issues on 501 whoever replaced the carpet for London Midland in 2008 or so glued it in such a way that the floor boarding has been destroyed in removing it and had to be replaced. They're hoping to avoid it with later units by getting some specialists in to hopefully remove the old carpet without trashing the floor beneath.

 

[tram21]

It’s like putting up an IKEA wardrobe - the first one takes ages as you have to follow all the instructions and workout which bits go where, which tools are best to use, and make various mistakes. By wardrobe three it takes 20 minutes.

I’ll leave others to come up with allegorical punchlines.

Thought so! Thanks

 

[fgwrich]

158847 poking its front end out of Barton Hill when I past through Bristol last night. Northing further to report other than it’s looked fully branded and probably due to head back soon (if they’ve repaired it as well).

 

[Chiltern006]

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