CrossCountry XC Class 170 refurbishment

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Realtime Trains | 5H04 0837 Birmingham New Street to Tyseley L.M.D. | 15/05/2025

Real-time train running information for 5H04 0837 departure from Birmingham New Street to Tyseley L.M.D. on 15/05/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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If only all regular workings could be 10 car!

It's a 5 car but shown twice. Happens from time to time in RTT.

 

[tfw756rider]

170112 is out

Realtime Trains | 1P04 0722 Leicester to Birmingham New Street | 15/05/2025

Real-time train running information for 1P04 0722 departure from Leicester to Birmingham New Street on 15/05/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Thanks for letting us know

 

[E B]

Over the weekend the XC 170s swapped over. 170112 has been replaced by 170113 now. It caught me off guard until I saw photos on Facebook. 170101 and 170112 in the new XC colours now.

Thanks for the update

 

[Jacob Porrett]

170113: half of the unit has gone into the paint shop now as of today (21/5/25)

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Photo from a friend who asked me to share on here of 170112 at Cardiff Central.

 

[E B]

Does this unit have declassified first class?

 

[Brubulus]

Does this unit have declassified first class?

All units have first class declassified, even unrefurbished ones. What was first class on those units is in an absolute state though.

 

[Russel]

All units have first class declassified, even unrefurbished ones. What was first class on those units is in an absolute state though.

To be fair, since the last refurb over 10 years ago, the 170s have been hammered on a daily basis, so it's no surprise the state they are in...

Though admittedly, Arriva haven't gone out of their way to look after them.

 

[tfw756rider]

Does this unit have declassified first class?

Yes.

All units have first class declassified, even unrefurbished ones.

I will add that the refurbishment has actually replaced the 2+1 seating in the former first class area with 2+2 seating (which makes up for the seats lost due to the separation of the wheelchair and bicycle areas).

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Does this unit have declassified first class?

Yes

 

[E B]

Thank you

 

[jonnyrobbo85]

Is 170103 in for refurbishment? I haven't seen out for a while..

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Is 170103 in for refurbishment? I haven't seen out for a while..

No it's not. The list is currently: 170101 and 170112 already done and 170113 currently going through the process.

 

[1D54]

I've seen the first refurbished unit a few times recently and it is now carrying the number 0101 at both ends. Any reason why?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

I've seen the first refurbished unit a few times recently and it is now carrying the number 0101 at both ends. Any reason why?

Maybe the 17 part of the number has been lost/come off during traffic?

 

[1D54]

Maybe the 17 part of the number has been lost/come off during traffic?

Should add that i mistakenly said both ends so if it is only at one of them then that explanation is probably spot on but the number has only been on for a few weeks so it wasn't done very well.

 

[The_Train]

No it's not. The list is currently: 170101 and 170112 already done and 170113 currently going through the process.

When did 113 enter Crewe?

 

[E B]

When did 113 enter Crewe?

About two weeks ago.

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Should add that i mistakenly said both ends so if it is only at one of them then that explanation is probably spot on but the number has only been on for a few weeks so it wasn't done very well.

I have just seen 101 today at Cambridge. The number is in full at the Coach C end.

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Is 170103 in for refurbishment? I haven't seen out for a while..

My train today (1K07) was operated by 170103.

 

[1D54]

I have just seen 101 today at Cambridge. The number is in full at the Coach C end.

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The missing 17 on one end of this unit is now back in place albeit with a marker pen!!!

 

[GoneSouth]

The missing 17 on one end of this unit is now back in place albeit with a marker pen!!!

Only on XC

 

[trundlewagon]

Only on XC

Sounds like a Tyseley special to be fair

 

[tfw756rider]

The missing 17 on one end of this unit is now back in place albeit with a marker pen!!!

Won't rain and washing water remove it?

 

[1D54]

Probably done with a permanent pen. Not very professional all the same.

 

[tfw756rider]

Probably done with a permanent pen. Not very professional all the same.

I thought even "permanent" markers can wash off though, and no it's not!

 

[Wyrleybart]

It's a 5 car but shown twice. Happens from time to time in RTT.

If you look at the schedule for 5H04 it departs Birmingham New St, goes "round the houses" then back into New St to go to Tyseley - hence two Birmingham times.

 

[E B]

The missing 17 on one end of this unit is now back in place albeit with a marker pen!!!

XC Masterclass

 

[Jacob Porrett]

170113 has the new red livery now.

 

[E B]

They are certainly speeding up, now the first couple are done

 

[Russel]

I saw 170101 again today, the new livery is really growing on me.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I saw 170101 again today, the new livery is really growing on me.

Most of it is growing on me a bit but I just don't get the beige at the cab end, it is just out of keeping with the rest of it.

 

[1D54]

Won't rain and washing water remove it?

You were spot on. 0101 it is again with the 17 practically disappeared doubtless due to the rain. It is on the Birmingham - Stansted / Leicester route today and i wish I'd have whipped out my phone and taken a photo of it but it was too quick for me.