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Most likely a hotel in Crewe for the night.
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HS2isgood
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Is there staff at Crewe at the calling time? I guess yes since UK rail staffing is rather high.
Kite159
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Hopefully they will be more useful than the usual Avanti Crewe staff 'nothing to do with us' attitude when dealing with customers from other operators.
MadCommuter
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Looks like a 37 will be deployed to help out tonight.
styles
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Worse for bed passengers than seated I suppose. The actual delay all the way to Aberdeen would've been 22 minutes, which isn't that bad really; but I would be miffed if I'd booked a bed and had to switch to a seat at 5am, and presumably be doing without a cooked breakfast.
That’s exactly what happened, knocked at 0430, told to be out for 0500,no time for shower or offer of a breakfast.
Only consolation was got a credit to my flexipass - that’s 2 I’ve had in the past month!
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Do you know what the problem was as we were not told.
styles
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Yeah and normally I'm quite happy with rail delays resulting in compensation. In some cases I can even claim on my travel insurance.
But with the sleeper, the whole reason I book it is because I want to get to my destination refreshed - good night's sleep, shower, and a decent brekkie. While I appreciate the compensation, it's not a great substitute if I get to my destination without time for a station shower, have lost 3+ hours of sleep, and having to get a breakfast on-to-go to make-up time. It's less important on the way home, but on the way to work it makes a big difference.
matchmaker
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As I understand it, the same 37 (37403 I think) that will be hauling the Aberdeen portion hauled two 73/9 to Glasgow works a few days ago. Not sure what the problem is with the 73s, but the 37 will be hauling the train and providing ETS. A dead 73 is acting as a translator wagon!
Aberdeen to London cancelled tonight. Starting Edinburgh on arrival of the Fort William service.
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Realtime Trains | 0Z25 2044 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D | 12/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0Z25 2044 departure from Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D on 12/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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That was what should have been 37403. So I presume it will take 1A25 forward tonight and then 1B16 back on Friday night.
Will keep an eye out for it then. Thanks.Realtime Trains | 0Z25 2044 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D | 12/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0Z25 2044 departure from Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D on 12/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
That was what should have been 37403. So I presume it will take 1A25 forward tonight and then 1B16 back on Friday night.
norbitonflyer
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The unfortunate Aberdeen passengers last night had a very different experience from mine, coming south from Inverness. Got seats in the lounge car, great views of the Cairngorms, breakfast also in the lounge car and arrival at Euston 100 seconds early.
What actually happened ? If it was a problem with the 73 that was to take the Aberdeen portion on from Edinburgh, how did all three southbound portions get to Edinburgh?
What actually happened ? If it was a problem with the 73 that was to take the Aberdeen portion on from Edinburgh, how did all three southbound portions get to Edinburgh?
hexagon789
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I believe last nights Aberdeen-bound portion went to Fort William instead of Aberdeen.
Also serious reliability issues with the 73s currently, only two fully working locos hence 37403 being drafted in.
Must be approaching pensionable age?
Yes, unusual at this time of year, as there have been times in past Summers when no 66 has been needed, let alone 37403.
The shell may be, but aren’t most of the guts from their refurbishment so only a decade old?
Is there a limit on the number of coaches which can go to Inverness? Just wondering if the ABD passenger couldn't have been left asleep for another hour and then transfer to the 0603 ex Perth, although a 170 might have been a bit squeezy.
norbitonflyer
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Platform length at Inverness - two locos plus eight coaches is about the limit.
And the ETS index of the class 73s is not sufficient for the extra coaches.
The 0530 was a 170!
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You were correct.Realtime Trains | 0Z25 2044 Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D | 12/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0Z25 2044 departure from Bo'ness Jn Exchange Sdg to Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D on 12/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
That was what should have been 37403. So I presume it will take 1A25 forward tonight and then 1B16 back on Friday night.
hexagon789
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I don't think the refurbs have ever been quite as reliable as hoped.
Fair point, but I can't remember the last time they didn't have at least a doubke 73, if not a 66/73 pair on the Inverness/Ft Will portions. Aberdeen seems to always have just had a single 73.
Yes, I was referring to double 73s. The fleet size does presume a double 73 on the Inverness portion.
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norbitonflyer
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Certainly the plan was a single 73 on the Fort William, and it has been done on at least one occasion - admittedely when the service was still mark 3s
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("All the Stations" video Episode 56, at Corrour in 2017)
And here is a 73 on Mark 5s at Singer (so presumably on the Ft Bill sleeper). Dated July 2019, whch is, I think, before the Highlander switched to Mark 5s so presumably a test run (also looks too light to be on the CS schedule that far south, even in high summer, it would be twilight at best when in the Glasgow suburbs)
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("All the Stations" video Episode 56, at Corrour in 2017)
And here is a 73 on Mark 5s at Singer (so presumably on the Ft Bill sleeper). Dated July 2019, whch is, I think, before the Highlander switched to Mark 5s so presumably a test run (also looks too light to be on the CS schedule that far south, even in high summer, it would be twilight at best when in the Glasgow suburbs)
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Caledonian Sleeper Flexipass. I'm aware that this doesn't allow Senior Railcard discount.
Assuming I'm going to do five round trips in the next twelve months, would I better off getting a Flexipass or using Senior Railcard discounts? Any thoughts?
Assuming I'm going to do five round trips in the next twelve months, would I better off getting a Flexipass or using Senior Railcard discounts? Any thoughts?
No. Platform two at Inverness holds 2 73/9s and 12 coaches. Been done before .
norbitonflyer
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I'm surprised. Didn't look like there was room for four more coaches (even allowing for the fact that a 66 is longer than a 73) when i was there on Wednesday
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37403 plus a 73 will be on tonights Aberdeen portion as well.