Leyland Bus
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1> The Heywood B9s are all going through their MoTs at the moment but are due to move on this year anyway as has already been mentioned up thread.
2> 2201 is off for some work to be done, we don't park buses up for the fun of it
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2> 2201 is off for some work to be done, we don't park buses up for the fun of it
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jeffery9098
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those two citaros that are on the far left of depot or where 2201 is now.1> The Heywood B9s are all going through their MoTs at the moment but are due to move on this year anyway as has already been mentioned up thread.
2> 2201 is off for some work to be done, we don't park buses up for the fun of it
they are parked for the fun of it.Also what happended to 2017, I saw it getting towed back to depot on those recovery trucks. He did 'alright' job by reversing it into those spot where 2201 is.
Leyland Bus
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They're not though are they? They're both withdrawn, one after fire damage that is uneconomical to repair and the other a Trainer with a failed engine that's served its purpose well, both now donate parts to other buses and are used as storage.those two citaros that are on the far left of depot or where 2201 is now.
Also what happended to 2017, I saw it getting towed back to depot on those recovery trucks. He did 'alright' job by reversing it into those spot where 2201 is.
Any recovery driver who drags buses in are absolute legends, they can park them up off the back of a lorry easier than driving the bus itself!
Class 466
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Burnham welcomes £2.5bn transport gamechanger
Money for 1000 EV buses in Manchester (and more) - won’t get very far if they continue to struggle to actually electrify the Depots!
Money for 1000 EV buses in Manchester (and more) - won’t get very far if they continue to struggle to actually electrify the Depots!
jeffery9098
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Yeah I was only kidding about those citaros 
. I always wondered what would a recovery truck driver training would look like considering it has be skill.
At least 6251 came back and 6252 the last of O295 that is getting refurbished got sent off today. I'm suspecting Go Ahead would slowly do the same with the remaining O530(2012) that aren't yellow.
. I always wondered what would a recovery truck driver training would look like considering it has be skill.At least 6251 came back and 6252 the last of O295 that is getting refurbished got sent off today. I'm suspecting Go Ahead would slowly do the same with the remaining O530(2012) that aren't yellow.
TheSmiths82
Member
Does anybody know if Stagecoach Stockport are getting any newer buses and what the plans are for their awful hybrid E400 fleet is? I was on that broke down the other day and I can't wait to see the back of them.
Large numbers of Bee Network spec diesel buses only a few years old will be surplus to requirements in a few years time then
pokemonsuper9
Established Member
Probably will just be sold off to other areas of the country.
TheSmiths82
Member
There is an official conversation programme for the Streetdecks and one of them as already been converted. I am guessing we may see a gradual programme of electrification of the Streetdeck fleet especially if an engine needs to be replaced anyway.
Andy Burnham talks about 1000 brand new EV buses
Even if they keep repowering the streetdecks, that’s still massive numbers of Bee Network spec E200s, E400s, eVora’s etc that will be leaving Manchester after only a few years use
TheSmiths82
Member
It won't happen anyway, I don't think upgrades to the grid would happen in time. They haven't even found a replacement for the Stockport depot yet so that won't be built for several more years to come. I think 3035 at the earliest for full electrification.
They have scores of older buses to swap out first and they'll end up doing one garage at a time. So with every garage, the diesel fleet will get shuffled, older buses moved on.
Who owns the buses anyway? Aren't at least some of the new buses owned by the operators who can cascade them elsewhere? Not like they'll be heading to the scrapheap.
Either way, the goal of removing diesel from a major conurbation is definitely a good one.
If man is still alive….
What has happened to the original plans for Bee Network Depots?
1> Stockport were supposedly moving to the current Ambulance Depot Travis Brow with the Ambulance Depot moving to what is currently Hazel Grove Park & Ride
2> Also a new mega depot was supposedly being built at Central Park, has work started on this and how is it going?
1> Stockport were supposedly moving to the current Ambulance Depot Travis Brow with the Ambulance Depot moving to what is currently Hazel Grove Park & Ride
2> Also a new mega depot was supposedly being built at Central Park, has work started on this and how is it going?
Class 466
Established Member
Believe neither plans have even been started, happy to be corrected though.
Planning application was submitted to Stockport council for the new ambulance station (DC/088269) but for some reason, has been withdrawn. Maybe they are revising the plans.
Leyland Bus
Member
I'll concur with that, we've heard the same...
The site has been bought for the Central depot but given they're on about reroofing Queens Road (although in the past that was the death knell for a garage, see Swinton and Rochdale for that) I'd imagine anything of the sort is going to be way into the future...
Charles Street
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Tongue in cheek re Stockport - the ambulance depot site just doesn't look big enough to replace Stockport garage but let's just for the moment assume it ngoesn ahead in some form and then they decide that's where they would like the Metrolink extension to go! Seen through a hazy crystal ball.
The ambulance site does look very small, but there's a lot of land on both sides of it. If you include that, there's quite a lot of space. Probably room enough for the Metrolink too if they needed to.
Either way, without the new ambulance station sorted, nothing's going to happen soon.
What was Central Park replacing, and where is it ?
Also are other depots that could get merged) ie Bolton, Wythenshawe, Sharston ?
It’s two stops out of Victoria on the Rochdale Metrolink line, just by the Oldham Road
Leyland Bus
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Was intended to replace both Queens Road and Hyde Road depots.
I'm not sure any other garages could be merged in a similar way.
Thats not correct, the Central Park depot was/is intended to replace Queens Road, Oldham and Middleton depots, but seeing as all three are being electrified, I can't see any hurry, at the moment there are no plans to replace Hyde Road, although a small plot of land was bought close to Piccadilly Station and the Mancunian Way, which also seems to have dropped off the radar, as additional space for Hyde Road based Buses, and would house about circa43 buses
Leyland Bus
Member
That wasn't what we were told but it was 2 years ago and I suppose plans change.
There has been nothing to ever suggest that the plot of land bought near Piccadilly is intended for bus use...
mayneway
Member
There was never any actual decision on what the super depot was replacing.
When it was first announced about the 17/18 moving to oldham, we at Queens road were told it was because eventually Oldham would be sold off and would move to the super depot along with Middleton.
Then we were told *some* routes from all three depots (that use Rochdale and Oldham road) would move there from all three Stagecoach depots - but again nothing was ever confirmed.
The land at Central Park was a hive of activity at one point with drilling and ground testing being done but there’s been no activity for months.
1> Is Middleton Depot short of vehicles especially double decks at the moment only for the past couple of weeks I've been seeing quite a number of single deck workings on their 171/172 routes which has always been deckers in the past?
2> Considering BusTimes has to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes does anyone know where E400s 19283, 19286, 19289 & 19497 are located as despite still being on fleetlist none have tracked since January?
2> Considering BusTimes has to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes does anyone know where E400s 19283, 19286, 19289 & 19497 are located as despite still being on fleetlist none have tracked since January?
19289 was towed away from Little Hulton to go for trainer conversion a few weeks ago
mayneway
Member
This question seems to get asked a lot. Every depot is run on a tight shoe string vehicle wise and often things like having too many vehicles with MOT’s at the same time can lead to issues.
I believe at the moment Middleton have a number of vehicles off with RTC damage which has impacted on the fleet so vehicles have been borrowed from Oldham and Queens Road while the damaged vehicles undergo repair work.
Charles Street
Member
I saw 19286 out working school service 875 one afternoon last week. I think it is an Oldham duty but not sure. Unfortunately I was unable to check what it was tracking as on bus times.
darylyates17
Member
I wondering what the plan is for the O530 Citaros with Go North West as they mostly still in Brighter Diamond livery, will they still get repainted and re trimmed?