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Class 730 LNR & WMR Delivery/test Updates

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Class777

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Yes it was a double set, 2x5car.
How odd… perhaps it was just an error set by the driver or a system fault. I would of said it thought there was 3x 3 cars but this wouldn’t make sense because they’re WMR spec as well as 3x 5 cars, that wouldn’t make sense.

Very bizarre,
Hopefully just a teething bug and can be solved quickly! :D
 

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There is a notice in the notice case which states 10 car formations of 730 are not permitted on the Down Fast at Bushey.

No idea why, but that's the current order.
At the depot my friend works at that notice wasn’t there when they booked on yesterday, but it is now in the notice case
 

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perhaps it was just an error set by the driver or a system fault
These have ASDO so theoretically there shouldn't be any error from the driver. I'd imagine it's just a system fault if it did indeed happen. The 730/0s lock out the rear doors at many platforms along the cross city when running as a 6 car.
 

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Another drag occurring today from Gascoigne Wood to Bletchley
 

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Hey guys does anyone know if / when or if they already do run routes on the Euston - Birmingham New Street (via Northampton) line?
Yes 1 peak at the moment. currently 1W51, 16:19 to Northampton.

220 & 205 is booked to do 2B06, 06:56 Bletchley to Euston.
 
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SCDR_WMR

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I'll take that bet they have booked work on 1Yxx to Birminghams in the full rollout.
Have they? I haven't seen that. Given the current plan it to introduce 12 car 350s all the way to New St I don't see why they'd bother. Plus they'd have to train 2 more depots up on them
 

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Have they? I haven't seen that. Given the current plan it to introduce 12 car 350s all the way to New St I don't see why they'd bother. Plus they'd have to train 2 more depots up on them

Is there currently any interworking at all between Euston-Birmingham and Euston-Crewe/MKC/Tring or Liverpool-Birmingham, or is it fully self contained in the four WCML service groups?
 

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Is there currently any interworking at all between Euston-Birmingham and Euston-Crewe/MKC/Tring or Liverpool-Birmingham, or is it fully self contained in the four WCML service groups?
Yes, there are many diagrams that utilise train crew from many depots depending on how far they sign - there's one which is New St conductor to Rugby, Crewe conductor to Euston back to Rugby, Cov conductor to New St for instance.

Liverpool services are more self contained as there are normally multiple trips per diagram.

Not 100% sure your meaning of service groups but presuming you mean New St/Cov, Northampton/Bletchley etc.
 

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Yes, there are many diagrams that utilise train crew from many depots depending on how far they sign - there's one which is New St conductor to Rugby, Crewe conductor to Euston back to Rugby, Cov conductor to New St for instance.

Liverpool services are more self contained as there are normally multiple trips per diagram.

Not 100% sure your meaning of service groups but presuming you mean New St/Cov, Northampton/Bletchley etc.

With the plan supposedly being thus:

Euston-Tring/MKC: 730
Euston-Brum: 350
Euston-Crewe: 730
Brum-Liv: 350/730 depending on who you ask

...by service groups I meant those - i.e. are you going to have a problem keeping 730s and 350s apart if there is interworking between unit diagrams of Euston-Brum and other services.
 

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With the plan supposedly being thus:

Euston-Tring/MKC: 730
Euston-Brum: 350
Euston-Crewe: 730
Brum-Liv: 350/730 depending on who you ask

...by service groups I meant those - i.e. are you going to have a problem keeping 730s and 350s apart if there is interworking between unit diagrams of Euston-Brum and other services.
Will there be enough units for all LNR 730 services to be 10 car when the rollout is complete?
 

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Just catching up with this... 36 new trains seems quite a huge fleet expansion. Does this mean we can expect more services, or much longer trains, or are lots of the 350's going to simply stop being used? I see references to possibly extending London-Crewe to Manchester and Stafford-Crewe to Manchester Airport in the future, but that's only going to require a few extra units - nothing like the quantity entering service.
 

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Just catching up with this... 36 new trains seems quite a huge fleet expansion. Does this mean we can expect more services, or much longer trains, or are lots of the 350's going to simply stop being used? I see references to possibly extending London-Crewe to Manchester and Stafford-Crewe to Manchester Airport in the future, but that's only going to require a few extra units - nothing like the quantity entering service.

The 350/2s will go away but even then it is an expansion.
 

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