A trespassing enthusiast...

[Bittern]

On a point of order - having looked at the pictures, he looks remarkably similar to the "vidiot" who nearly got wiped out by a 170 a few months ago; could it be the same man?

Certainly could be.

 

[OxtedL]

I don't think it is though, somehow.

 

[Geezertronic]

I wonder whether the idiot would set his tripod up on the hard shoulder of a motorway?

 

[Dennis]

Has anyone seen this blokes phots and vids? Being that close to the subject they really must be top notch

 

[NightatLaira]

Yes but there is a difference between a preserved railway running trains at a maximum speed of 25mph as they are classed as light railways to Network Rail running trains at speeds of up to 125mph.

Adding to the fact that trains on the national network run at different speeds, how long do you reckon you've got to judge the speed and distance of a incoming train - not long at all, maybe a few seconds if you're lucky.

Maybe having a look at these videos will show why it's idiotic to be unsafe on the railway:

[youtube]Je5N4FKIxKM[/youtube]

[youtube]dnkG7G6n2Bg[/youtube]

Be warned, some of the footage is gruesome.

Great videos - very, very moving. We need more hard hitting stuff like this to get the message out. Shame about the dodgy acting in the second vid, but great testimonials from the crew. Thanks for posting.
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Certainly could be.

It's definitely Frank Harper

 

[Paul180]

If it isn't him could be his twin brother?

 

[Darandio]

I would be inclined to say not, same hairline, same nose, same ears, same mouth, same chin? Nah, couldn't be.

 

[Aictos]

Great videos - very, very moving. We need more hard hitting stuff like this to get the message out. Shame about the dodgy acting in the second vid, but great testimonials from the crew. Thanks for posting.

That's okay, the media ought to be showcasing these more and more especially on TV and Newspapers rather then just run adverts - Eastenders, Coronation Street, Britain's Got Talent, The Only Way is Essex are all popular shows with viewers in their millions so would be a ideal start.

All railway forums and magazines ought to be naming and shaming these idiots who put themselves at risk and who are endangering not only themselves but others as well -My question to the RailUK management team is would they consider working with other forums on a joint campaign which hopefully would get the support of RAIL, Network Rail and others.

 

[StrollerEd]

Just viewed those videos - esp the first.

See much virtue in getting the message out via Soaps and other popular TV progs.

 

[43167]

I think it is the same guy. Hopefully NR get a court order banning him from coming within 500 yards of a railway. Might sound extreme, but its people like this guy who cause problems for the rest of us in the future.

 

[richw]

I would be inclined to say not, same hairline, same nose, same ears, same mouth, same chin? Nah, couldn't be.

not forgetting the same jacket as the right hand picture above, or is this picture taken of the guy who nearly got scat over?

 

[anthony263]

Maybe we could send this pics to rail magazine for nigel harris to show what an idiot this blke is?

 

[Darandio]

not forgetting the same jacket as the right hand picture above, or is this picture taken of the guy who nearly got scat over?

Yeah, thats from the same vid. I was trying to show the facials to compare with the lineside shot.

 

[HST Power]

Has anyone seen this blokes phots and vids? Being that close to the subject they really must be top notch

I bet he's the star of the show on Flickr.

Maybe having a look at these videos will show why it's idiotic to be unsafe on the railway:

[youtube]Je5N4FKIxKM[/youtube]

[youtube]dnkG7G6n2Bg[/youtube]

Excellent, highly moving videos, particularly the first one. Whilst the content may have been gruesome, such footage is essential to convey the message of the importance of railway safety.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

I am surprised by some people's idea about being the 'wrong side of the fence' not being dangerous. Even if it wasn't dangerous if you were walking along a motorway embankment nowhere near the hard shoulder you would be likely to be pulled up by police for being 'the wrong side of the fence'. if you were on someone's property 'the wrong side of the fence' they would be entitled to call the police to have you moved. It's called the 'wrong side of the fence' because you have no right to be there.
As for the safety aspects even well trained and highly visible p-way staff who know how to behave trackside still get killed through a momentary lapse.
In these days of heightened safety etc anyone who is trackside should be considered suspect - wonder what would happen to a plane spotter if they were to go the 'wrong side of the fence' at Heathrow ?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Whilst some say that the acting is not good in the second video, it would be ideal to show in schools, where some of the pre-accident comments made by the actors seem to reflect some young people's general attitude these days.

 

[T163R]

That's the kind of guy that gives all train enthusiasts a bad reputation...

 

[Clip]

I bet that fella is the kind who moans about NR putting up palisade fencing and thus ruining the photo opportunities without realising its through the actions of him and others that is causing them to do just that.

 

[bluenoxid]

I am surprised by some people's idea about being the 'wrong side of the fence' not being dangerous. Even if it wasn't dangerous if you were walking along a motorway embankment nowhere near the hard shoulder you would be likely to be pulled up by police for being 'the wrong side of the fence'. if you were on someone's property 'the wrong side of the fence' they would be entitled to call the police to have you moved. It's called the 'wrong side of the fence' because you have no right to be there.
As for the safety aspects even well trained and highly visible p-way staff who know how to behave trackside still get killed through a momentary lapse.
In these days of heightened safety etc anyone who is trackside should be considered suspect - wonder what would happen to a plane spotter if they were to go the 'wrong side of the fence' at Heathrow ?

Someone walking on a Motorway embankment is not in a lot of danger but would be dealt with (like the man seen here) for being in an unusual position and also trespass.

There is trackside and on railway property. They are a different area and Airside has the additional issue of customs, as well as security.

 

[Bittern]

<SNIP>

There's a great video on YouTube about two railway staff who had to check on their train at a station. They contacted the signaller and through some sort of mis-communication, they thought the fast line was closed so they could get out an inspect. The line was not closed as a Pendolino thundered directly towards them, and they were forced to take cover under the voyager. This was actually a documentary and re-enactment. Can't find the video anywhere now though.

Just goes to show that even railway staff working on the tracks are in danger. All it takes is for one thing to go wrong. When a Pendolino comes for you, you might not have a Voyager to hide under.

 

[andyfrommk]

There's a great video on YouTube about two railway staff who had to check on their train at a station. They contacted the signaller and through some sort of mis-communication, they thought the fast line was closed so they could get out an inspect. The line was not closed as a Pendolino thundered directly towards them, and they were forced to take cover under the voyager. This was actually a documentary and re-enactment. Can't find the video anywhere now though.

This is it

 

[Bittern]

Thanks a lot. Any ideas where it came from (dvd etc.)?

 

[MCR247]

I saw it on a documentary on TV IIRC, dunno when/what channel

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Thanks a lot. Any ideas where it came from (dvd etc.)?

An internal staff training DVD.


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[Bittern]

Shame. Would make much more interesting TV than that Big Brother poo.

 

[andyfrommk]

Thanks a lot. Any ideas where it came from (dvd etc.)?

I think its a network rail safety film.
"Red15" appears on the subtitles but googling this brings up nothing, however, this appears in the comments section

Never thought I would see a "red" video on here, where did you get it from?
azymitch 1 year ago

 

[Minilad]

RED Videos are training / Information videos.
We have one on each safety brief. They go over incidents usually using reconstructions.
Some of the stuff on them is very interesting

 

[GB]

The "RED" DVDs are internal staff safety videos published by the RSSB

From the RSSB site

RED is a series of programmes that aims to improve operational safety on GB railways. Each programme provides a reconstruction of an operational incident and then analyses the practises and behaviours which contributed to the incident and looks at the root causes and remdeies. RED aims to drive down the level of risk by improving standards of safety critical communication, situational awareness and overall safety.

RED is about operating incidents which are of interest to anyone operating and managing the railway: from drivers and signallers to managers and specialists at all levels.

By funding and facilitating this series, RSSB is assisting OFG in promoting a more progressive and open safety culture in which there is respect for the contribution of all and recognition that there are still many systemic issues that must be addressed if improvements are to be delivered.

 

[Karl]

Hello folks, my 1st post here. I wasn't intending to make any contributions, I just enjoy reading the discussions. However, I came across another photo of a trespasser on a Flickr photostream and the similarity is unbelievable. Could this be the same man in the OP's photos?

Have a look here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/36840294@N07/6108996170/

 

[Darandio]

Enormously familiar, clothes wise anyway. Serial trespasser!