Trivia: Station that can reach most stations within a county.

gith · 27 Oct 2014

I'm fairly sure you can go to ost stations in Hants from Havant, although I might be wrong. All West coastway stations up to the county border, all Ports direct until the border... Might not be able to do Basingstoke/Winchester though, seeing as XC services get diverted through HAV when there's engineering works up that way.

You can still get to a LOT of stations from Havant though.

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30909 · 27 Oct 2014

gith said:
I'm fairly sure you can go to ost stations in Hants from Havant, although I might be wrong. All West coastway stations up to the county border, all Ports direct until the border... Might not be able to do Basingstoke/Winchester though, seeing as XC services get diverted through HAV when there's engineering works up that way.

You can still get to a LOT of stations from Havant though.

Doesn't Fratton beat this with 34 stations and with no direct services to another 26

61653 HTAFC · 27 Oct 2014

Rich McLean said:
Unless already mentioned. Exeter St Davids you can get to every station in Devon using a direct train except St Beadaux Victoria Road, Bere Ferres, Bere Alston, Calstock and Gunnislake.

If you board a train there, you can get to around 30+ stations in Devon with no changes

And there's me thinking Gunnislake was in Cornwall...

Rich McLean · 27 Oct 2014

61653 HTAFC said:
And there's me thinking Gunnislake was in Cornwall...

It is (doh). Still, Not many stations in Devon that you can't get to on a direct train from Exeter St Davids

Railfan2156 · 14 Feb 2015

Rich McLean said:
Unless already mentioned. Exeter St Davids you can get to every station in Devon using a direct train except St Beadaux Victoria Road, Bere Ferres, Bere Alston, Calstock and Gunnislake.

If you board a train there, you can get to around 30+ stations in Devon with no changes

61653 HTAFC said:
And there's me thinking Gunnislake was in Cornwall...

and also on the Tamar Valley Line to Gunnislake. A number of these continue eastwards on the London route to destinations such as Exeter St Davids. - Wikipedia.
You can reach all destinations in devon from Exeter St. Davids...

P.S. Gunnislake is in Conwall

Thisisajm · 14 Feb 2015

Eastleigh is quite good.

Rapidash · 14 Feb 2015

What services from Exeter go directly to Gunnislake on a normal day? Far as I can see there isn't such a thing!

pne · 15 Feb 2015

61653 HTAFC said:
Rich McLean said:

Unless already mentioned. Exeter St Davids you can get to every station in Devon using a direct train except St Beadaux Victoria Road, Bere Ferres, Bere Alston, Calstock and Gunnislake.

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And there's me thinking Gunnislake was in Cornwall...

Not only is Gunnislake in Cornwall, so is Calstock (not surprising given that it's west of the Tamar).

Speaking of Cornwall, I imagine that Par sets the record here, solely beause the Newquay branch line has one more stop than the Looe and Falmouth ones (and two more than the St Ives one).

I make it 19 stations in Cornwall that can be reached by direct train from Par (though Menheniot is served only once a day towards Par and four times a day away from Par).

(Also going by ceremonial county since Cornwall is nowadays either a unitary authority or a duchy, depending on whom you ask.)

GrimsbyPacer · 15 Feb 2015

pne said:
Not only is Gunnislake in Cornwall, so is Calstock (not surprising given that it's west of the Tamar).

Speaking of Cornwall, I imagine that Par sets the record here, solely beause the Newquay branch line has one more stop than the Looe and Falmouth ones (and two more than the St Ives one).

I make it 19 stations in Cornwall that can be reached by direct train from Par (though Menheniot is served only once a day towards Par and four times a day away from Par).

(Also going by ceremonial county since Cornwall is nowadays either a unitary authority or a duchy, depending on whom you ask.)

The boundary of Cornwall doesn't matter much. The council excludes the Scilly Isles which has no rails. Bodmin has a branch connection too don't forget.

fsmr · 15 Feb 2015

You are correct about Rutland but we only have one station which is Oakham as Stamford down the line is Lincs and Melton Mowbray the other way in Leics

Leicester Midland has direct services to all the Leics stations these being Mkt Harborough Narborough Hinckley South Wigston Syston Melton Sileby Barrow and Loughborough. The odd ball is Bottesford sat in the North of the county on the Nottingham to Grantham line which would require a change at Nottingham from Leicester

MidnightFlyer · 16 Feb 2015

GrimsbyPacer said:
Bodmin has a branch connection too don't forget.

I assume you mean the Bodmin & Wenford? Including preserved stuff will likely just leave the same answers, albeit with a smaller percentage total reachable from them!

oglord · 16 Feb 2015

Obligatory map link: http://wikishire.co.uk/map/

GrimsbyPacer · 16 Feb 2015

oglord said:
Obligatory map link: http://wikishire.co.uk/map/

I thought we were using Ceremonial Counties?
I don't know what that's a map of.
I'm quite an expert on counties and they have never been like that.

MidnightFlyer · 16 Feb 2015

GrimsbyPacer said:
I thought we were using Ceremonial Counties?
I don't know what that's a map of.
I'm quite an expert on counties and they have never been like that.

Yes they have, that map I believe is worked from the very first Ordnance Survey-confirmed county boundaries. To be fair very little of that changed before the 1965 and 1974 local government reorganisations. The Association of British Counties would tell you more.

GrimsbyPacer · 16 Feb 2015

MidnightFlyer said:
Yes they have, that map I believe is worked from the very first Ordnance Survey-confirmed county boundaries. To be fair very little of that changed before the 1965 and 1974 local government reorganisations. The Association of British Counties would tell you more.

Before 1965 The Isle of Ely was a county.
Also despite sharing Yorkshire, Sussex and Glamorgan in their names the West of each for example were completely seperate counties in every way.

Those AB Counties people are silly. Next they'll find out that Preston was once part of Yorkshire, or that Hexhamshire existed and backdate their map even more.

Nozzacook · 16 Feb 2015

For Cornwall, Liskeard I would say has the most direct services to the rest of the county.

pne · 16 Feb 2015

Nozzacook said:
For Cornwall, Liskeard I would say has the most direct services to the rest of the county.

What makes you think that?

As far as I know, it just has trains up and down the main line, and also serves the 5 stops on the Looe branch.

But if you start from Par, you can also go up and down the main line as well as reaching all 6 stops on the Newquay branch.

Unless there are direct trains from Liskeard to the Gunnislake, Falmouth, or St Ives branches that I'm missing? Or perhaps to Boscarne Junction?

TorqueOfTheDevil · 16 Feb 2015

Am I right that Gloucester serves every station in Gloucestershire? I don't recall anyone else beating me to it

richw · 16 Feb 2015

Rapidash said:
Exeter St Davids has direct services to most of Devon I think with the possible exception of Devonport Dockyard. Although there is that horrific Exeter -Penzance stopper on a 150 that might cover that.

Ah! Nothing goes down the Gunnislake branch though! There goes that idea!

Rich McLean said:
Unless already mentioned. Exeter St Davids you can get to every station in Devon using a direct train except St Beadaux Victoria Road, Bere Ferres, Bere Alston, Calstock and Gunnislake.

If you board a train there, you can get to around 30+ stations in Devon with no changes
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I have twice done a 150/1 stopping at all stations from Weston-Super-Mare all the way to Plymouth, which continued all shacks to Penzance

Gunnislake and calstock are both in Cornwall.

The last gunnislake to Plymouth service of the day becomes a plymouth to exeter service, but as an ECS,

Nozzacook · 17 Feb 2015

pne said:
What makes you think that?

As far as I know, it just has trains up and down the main line, and also serves the 5 stops on the Looe branch.

But if you start from Par, you can also go up and down the main line as well as reaching all 6 stops on the Newquay branch.

Unless there are direct trains from Liskeard to the Gunnislake, Falmouth, or St Ives branches that I'm missing? Or perhaps to Boscarne Junction?

Summer Saturday first run direct trains from London to Newquay and XC also operate direct trains to Newquay.

pne · 17 Feb 2015

Nozzacook said:
Summer Saturday first run direct trains from London to Newquay and XC also operate direct trains to Newquay.

Those don't stop anywhere except for Par and Newquay, though, do they? At least I believe this is the case for XC.

In which case we'd have 5 (Looe line) + 1 (Newquay only) for Liskeard, which is a tie for Par.

ian1944 · 17 Feb 2015

In the current E Lothian council area (unitary authority), Musselburgh is the only one which can reach all of the other six stations. Considering the historic county, when Musselburgh (and Wallyford) were in Midlothian, none can reach the rest.

Andyjs247 · 17 Feb 2015

pne said:
What makes you think that?

As far as I know, it just has trains up and down the main line, and also serves the 5 stops on the Looe branch.

But if you start from Par, you can also go up and down the main line as well as reaching all 6 stops on the Newquay branch.

Unless there are direct trains from Liskeard to the Gunnislake, Falmouth, or St Ives branches that I'm missing? Or perhaps to Boscarne Junction?

There is a through service which runs Gunnislake to Liskeard - 1729 ex Gunnislake. There is also a return at 1749 from Liskeard to Gunnislake. I guess it was convenient to join up the services operationally at Plymouth by sending the incoming branch train from Gunnislake back out on a local run to Liskeard and vice versa.

TorqueOfTheDevil said:
Am I right that Gloucester serves every station in Gloucestershire? I don't recall anyone else beating me to it

Don't think you can get to Pilning direct.

Quakers Yard · 17 Feb 2015

Cardiff Queen Street and central reaches every station in old south Glamorgan.
Same for Pontypridd for rct etc.
Central reaches all parts of old Glamorgan county.
Newport not yet every station in Gwent and Monmouthshire but central does.
To be fair you can go to most of Wales from central and rest with just one change.

Argosy · 17 Feb 2015

In Scotland Kilmarnock is linked directly to the other places in East Ayrshire and in South Ayrshire Ayr, Prestwick Town, Prestwick International Airport and Troon are linked to all the stations in the Council area (Barrhill, Girvan, Maybole, Ayr, Newton on Ayr, Prestwick Town, Prestwick International Airport, Troon, Barassie). Indeed if Barassie had its Kilmarnock platform reinstated it might be one of the best rail connected Councils in Britain given the distance covered.

pne · 18 Feb 2015

Andyjs247 said:
There is a through service which runs Gunnislake to Liskeard - 1729 ex Gunnislake.

So there is! Well, well, well.

Then Liskeard seems to win Cornwall: Looe branch line (5 stops), Newquay, Calstock, and Gunnislake as well as the main line.

(And I may have to see whether I can catch one of those through services while I am in Cornwall

)

richw · 18 Feb 2015

pne said:
So there is! Well, well, well.

Then Liskeard seems to win Cornwall: Looe branch line (5 stops), Newquay, Calstock, and Gunnislake as well as the main line.

(And I may have to see whether I can catch one of those through services while I am in Cornwall )

Although the London to newquay dont call on the branch stations, is there still summer weekday direct services from plymouth to newquay with a 150 calling all stops

DarloRich · 18 Feb 2015

GrimsbyPacer said:
Darlington for Cleveland/Teesside.

Darlington is in County Durham and Cleveland no longer exists. Although Darlignton is now a unitary authority but lets consider it within County Durham

Although for County Durham Darlington is quite good connection wise:

Durham
North Road
Heighington
Newton Aycliffe
Shildon
Bishop Auckland
Dinsdale
Teesside Airport
Chester le Street

The only difficult one would be Seaham. I am not sure if there is a direct train anymore. You would have to change at Newcastle or Middlesbrough

GrimsbyPacer · 18 Feb 2015

DarloRich, I said Cleveland before the first Poster said he's using Ceremonial counties.
It does exist. It's all the unitary authorities around Teesside plus Redcar & Cleveland council. Having no county council doesn't change anything. It's no different from Merseyside or Berkshire which have no council.
Personally I dislike the whole idea of ceremonial counties not just because of their un-importance but because they don't line up with real life well.

For example with this enlarged Durham county you mention.
Stockton Borough is split in half between North Yorkshire and Durham.
And it's hard to find out where the line is drawn.

I think perserved counties were mentioned for Wales.
Not sure what Scotland's using for this??

Y Ddraig Coch · 18 Feb 2015

Llandudno Junction serves all stations in Conwy County:

All stations to:

Llandudno Junction - Llanfairfechan (Mainline down)
Llandudno Junction - Llandudno (Llandudno Branch)

Llandudno Junction - Rhyl (Mainline up)
Llandudno Junction - Roman Bridge (Conwy Valley)

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