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route101 · 19 Mar 2019

Gingerbus1991 said:
Out around glasgow today on a Handful of B9’s and B7’s, the B9 is still a favourite(no matter the operator), with the B7’s a close 2nd.

Im still so surprized at the way a 15 year old 2004 B7TL rides and floats over the road but the “Hoover” effect has always irritated!

B7TL s feel solid , the B9TLs feel spongy . Though wish they refitted new seat coverings .No wonder my clothes stink after riding them and the eclipses

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route101 · 19 Mar 2019

Gingerbus1991 said:
A White hanover refit would be the logical, crisp choice for a full refurb.

The 53 plates with the old flip dot , you can hardly see them

route101 · 19 Mar 2019

Gingerbus1991 said:
I understand all the pro-first boys hate me for it, by why have I just seen a 200 Classic on a 1B? Packed too the gunnels it was.

Now these are the very big downsides to the group, why do they even think that's normal?

What is a 200 classic?

Jordan Adam · 19 Mar 2019

Gingerbus1991 said:
I always recall a back shift on an 88 years ago, I had a window broken at springburn shopping centre, when I got to the bus station I got a bendy before they all left, was well chuffed!
(And a B12B tri-axle on Stagecoach Fifes 33 lol)

I am starting to hear a good few of those B9’s starting to hoover all the time as well, given that Transdev has said many of there vehicles are achieving 10% fuel gains with an Avid eFan unit and uprated alternator/s it seems a worth while investment to refit electric fans on midlife vehicles, thats if the payback can be achieved through these saving in a relatively short time, there after the savings would be money in the bank, investing for the future if you like.

The really interesting thing for me is i've never heard any of our B9TL/Gemini's in Aberdeen with a cooling fan, yet go to George Square and you're bound to hear one in the distance. I agree they should have looked and fitting eFans to the B7TLs in particular, however it's financially too late now.

Jordan Adam · 19 Mar 2019

route101 said:
What is a 200 classic?

Old style Enviro200.

laststop@96 · 19 Mar 2019

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129464815@N05/27388316068
Enviro 400 on the m60 a microbus route these can sometimes end up on on the 81 aswell from clydebank to duntocher.

Bus Lightyear · 19 Mar 2019

laststop@96 said:
I remember in 1993/1994 gct knightswood (strathclyde buses) got one of these double deck coaches
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77000...RiM-8Umg4q-kfHm5M-mdcmFa-9obQv3-bM9NLT-yTVfDp
the fitters where all over it to make sure it would make it to blackpool and back but no one checked the size of the diesel tank it ran out on the way back .

They were still running for a few years after First took over.

Gingerbus1991 · 19 Mar 2019

route101 said:
The B9TLs sound horrible without the fan noise .

I love the off-beat Trrr-Trrr of the B9!

Sounds like a propr diesel.

If its to be Euro6 I’d probably go with one of the 400 MMC’s Cummins Unit.

Bus Lightyear · 19 Mar 2019

Jordan Adam said:
Doesn't quite beat Stagecoach here putting a Astromega on the Service 119 in place of a Solo. The 119 for those who don't know goes in to some really narrow residential areas. Back when Grampian operated the service as the 21 it used to be company policy that nothing bigger than a 709D was used on the route.

I have no idea what an Astromega is?

laststop@96 · 19 Mar 2019

Bus Lightyear said:
They were still running for a few years after First took over.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33321...ist-gydVZv-gydVGM-azGPVQ-gjYQxh-auAj5K-F49Tmx
2003 did not think they lasted that long.

Gingerbus1991 · 19 Mar 2019

laststop@96 said:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129464815@N05/27388316068
Enviro 400 on the m60 a microbus route these can sometimes end up on on the 81 aswell from clydebank to duntocher.

Can I ask why theres one of the 400 Classics with Alloys on it yet all others have steels?

GaryMcEwan · 19 Mar 2019

Gingerbus1991 said:
Can I ask why theres one of the 400 Classics with Alloys on it yet all others have steels?

A couple of the hybrid's have alloys and the all diesel's have steels.

laststop@96 · 19 Mar 2019

GaryMcEwan said:
The Hybrid's have Alloys and the Diesel's have Steels.

have any of the hybrids been converted to full diesel power yet as loathian have converted some of there,s and how does that work when the company got a grant to run a hybrid.

GaryMcEwan · 19 Mar 2019

laststop@96 said:
have any of the hybrids been converted to full diesel power yet as loathian have converted some of there,s and how does that work when the company got a grant to run a hybrid.

None. All the Glasgow hybrids are still hybrids.

laststop@96 · 19 Mar 2019

Bus Lightyear said:
I have no idea what an Astromega is?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikealaska/8871944712

Bus Lightyear · 19 Mar 2019

laststop@96 said:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikealaska/8871944712

Cheers. I don't know a lot about coach types.

69036 · 19 Mar 2019

KGGXXXY said:
I'm sure I've seen a Gemini repainted into the urban livery still with a flip dot destination. even if they were to replace that with one salvaged out of one of the scrapped tridents would be better.

Probably YN53 EFE (31787) best B7tl in the fleet

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Looks great with the flip dot imo

laststop@96 · 19 Mar 2019

Does anyone know of operators who charge for dogs the four legged kind lol going to blackpool for weekend and checking day ticket prices and they charge for dogs a day rover £1 :lol:

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https://www.blackpooltransport.com/saver-tickets

ScotRail158725 · 19 Mar 2019

Jordan Adam said:
The really interesting thing for me is i've never heard any of our B9TL/Gemini's in Aberdeen with a cooling fan, yet go to George Square and you're bound to hear one in the distance. I agree they should have looked and fitting eFans to the B7TLs in particular, however it's financially too late now.

Tbh First Glasgowand Midland Bluebird seems to be the main operators with loud cooling fans. Very rare occasion to hear them anywhere else

SarahDFIG · 20 Mar 2019

Another trident off fleet. 33121

believe a few more alxs are soon to go very soon.

JumpinTrainz · 20 Mar 2019

I much prefer the B9TLs to the B7Ls and the only reason is because of the loud fans. The 61 used to see some of the nosiest B7TLs and they became really grubby also. I’m glad the east end is starting to see more B9TLs with some appearing on the 60 now too.

I always feel like they could have did more with the B7TLs but they let them run to ruin a bit. Grubby seat covers and loud fans which make sitting in the lower saloon very uncomfortable on the ears!

JumpinTrainz · 20 Mar 2019

New E400MMC for the 77 sitting in Caledonia depot. Looks good

SarahDFIG · 20 Mar 2019

just seen it myself in caley depot.

longer than the other e400mmcs with luggage racks

JumpinTrainz · 20 Mar 2019

SarahDFIG said:
just seen it myself in caley depot.

longer than the other e400mmcs with luggage racks

Hadn’t noticed the difference in size... mind you it caught my eye and only saw it at a glance. Can’t imagine many people use the 77 for the airport but they must do.

Gingerbus1991 · 20 Mar 2019

JumpinTrainz said:
Hadn’t noticed the difference in size... mind you it caught my eye and only saw it at a glance. Can’t imagine many people use the 77 for the airport but they must do.

Its never marketed that much along the route for people to know about it.

SarahDFIG · 20 Mar 2019

JumpinTrainz said:
Hadn’t noticed the difference in size... mind you it caught my eye and only saw it at a glance. Can’t imagine many people use the 77 for the airport but they must do.

yeah it's definitely longer than the others. you do get a few airport punters on the 77.

SK19 EOB (33391)

awsnews · 20 Mar 2019

JumpinTrainz said:
New E400MMC for the 77 sitting in Caledonia depot. Looks good

There is another one at Scotstoun, was parked amongst the buses awaiting service at lunchtime.
A varied selection parked at the back of the car park as well including Marshall Darts, various Volvo doubles and singles and at least one of the original E400s.

JumpinTrainz · 20 Mar 2019

awsnews said:
There is another one at Scotstoun, was parked amongst the buses awaiting service at lunchtime.
A varied selection parked at the back of the car park as well including Marshall Darts, various Volvo doubles and singles and at least one of the original E400s.

When I drove passed Caley again this afternoon there was no 77 bus there any longer. Perhaps it’s been transferred to a Scotstoun and this is the one you’ve seen.

SarahDFIG · 20 Mar 2019

JumpinTrainz said:
When I drove passed Caley again this afternoon there was no 77 bus there any longer. Perhaps it’s been transferred to a Scotstoun and this is the one you’ve seen.

it was just about to move when I seen it in caley so could well be the same one

alangla · 20 Mar 2019

Are there unbranded refurb B9s coming through now? All the ones I’v seen so far have been branded for the 61, but I saw a very fresh looking Northern Irish plated one on a 4 today & didn’t see any branding

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